Zeus > Christianity
Do you know who Alexander the Great is? The greatest conqueror in whole history!
But do you know which God he worshipped?
He worshipped Zeus!
So the most successful person in history worshipped Zeus.
What does that tell you? You could say "correlation causation bla bla bla".
But then look at ancient Greece. It is a very tiny part of ancient world. Yet that tiny part of the world is responsible for greatest scientific and philosophical discoveries of ancient world.
Who did they worship? Zeus!
Now, you may say "okay, coincidence can happen twice".
But then comes the political systems which Greeks invented, including Communism (implied by Plato) and Capitalism (implied by Aristotle).
Ancient Greece is also most famous place from ancient world.
So a God from some tiny country in ancient world is correlated with:
And someone tells me that Zeus doesnt exist?
Okay, lets see what happens when Greece abandoned belief in Zeus and accepted Christianity: No any glory, successes, discoveries or conquests followed.
What is unique about me is that I worship Gods who have proven high success rate.
Jesus had no success rate. Other than the parody called Proslogion, Christians invented nothing for 2000 years. All countries which accepted Christianity fell apart. Rome fell apart. Vatican fell apart. Even Christianity itself fell apart on multiple denominations who fought because they couldnt agree who reads Bible right. Christianity today is mostly abandoned.
And you compare that nonsense to Zeus, who is correlated with many greatest achievements in history?
Lets talk Roman Empire. Julius Ceasar is probably among most famous and most glorious persons in history. No Christian in history achieved his greatness.
Who did Julius Ceasar worship? Did he worship Jesus? No. He worshipped Venus.
When Roman soldiers were forced to accept Christ, they said they were afraid Mars will destroy Rome. And indeed, Rome was destroyed after accepting Christianity.
Now lets take a step further.
Ancient Egypt, responsible for greatest wonders in history, including pyramids and statues which go beyond possibility. It was also extremely wealthy.
Who did ancient Egypt worship?
Ra, Sun God!
I dont need to say that territory of ancient Egypt, after accepting Islam and Christianity, never made another wonder.
So when someone tells me that Christianity and Islam, who on their own in 2000 years of existence only invented terrorism and genocides, and it was only when countries moved away from Christianity and separated Church from state that they made any advancement in anything.
Zeus, Ra, Venus, Mars, are correlated with greatest wonders in history.
Allah and Jesus are only correlated with stupidity and severe delusions of mass population.
I would rather not say.
To person below me:
If there’s any be thing you wish you had the genetics to do, what would it be?
Trans people have wishes, like everyone else. Even tho their wishes dont affect others, other people bully them for their wishes.
I dont see why "I leave you alone and you leave me alone" is something people refuse to do when it comes to trans people.
If you cant support them, at least leave them alone. They have enough issues with 70% of people mocking them. Why do you have to be one of 70%?
Do you care about how I dress or how I call myself? Will the quality of your life be affected by clothes I wear? Now, why would you care what trans person wears?
I challenge any Trump supporter to watch it and then try to tell us that man is fit to be President
The leftists claimed Biden is fit to be president, when he had biggest inflation in recent history, couldnt even speak in any sense, touched women and girls inappropriately in public and said things like:
"He gave me permission to touch him" - Biden talking about little boy.
"She was 12, I was 30. The woman helped me get a lot done." - Biden in public speech.
"No serious guys until you are 30." - Biden saying to little girl in public.
"They rubbed my leg and watched the hair come back up again... So I learned about kids jumping on my lap, and I love kids jumping on my lap." - Biden talking to kids in public
"President of Ukraine is Putin" - Biden
"Obama/Trump is president of USA" - Biden saying while being president of USA
"We need to stop Putin from brutally invading Russia." - Biden
"Biden did a fantastic job as president and I will keep doing same!" - Kamala
If you are still wondering why Trump won, then you are suffering from same brain disorder as Biden.
There are leftists out there who hate capitalism. That doesn't = leftists hate capitalism
It does, when there are virtually no leftists who support Capitalism. And truly, you can either support capitalism or oppose it. I support Capitalism, so I cant be leftist.
The belief that God is possible is a belief, not a lack of belief. So when I say I believe God is possible, should atheist reject such belief, he would be unjustified in rejecting it. There were atheists who claimed God is impossible, but that is incorrect, and also:
This is your brain on propaganda
Its not the propaganda to say leftists hate Capitalism. At this point, it would be propaganda to say they dont hate it.
No, he proves that Satan is God.
Ontological argument is based on premise that God is possible (exists somewhere).
Many misunderstand modal logic, but it is based on logical axiom that:
A. "God exists everywhere" - if accepted as claim, if accepted without proof, results in logical contradictions.
B. "God exists nowhere" - if accepted as claim, if accepted without proof, results in logical contradictions
C. "God exists somewhere" - no logical contradiction happens if accepted without proof
And then premises logically follow:
P1. God is defined as maximally great being
P2. Maximally great being, if exists somewhere, exists everywhere
P3. God exists somewhere
C. God exists everywhere
There is no way to disagree with modal logic, because it is one of basis of logic regarding existence.
The counter-ontological is basically:
P1. Maximally great being, if doesnt exist somewhere, doesnt exist anywhere
P2. God doesnt exist somewhere
C. God doesnt exist anywhere
So it would seem exactly same logic results in two opposite conclusions.
This is because "God doesnt exist somewhere" is in equal amount of proof as "God exists somewhere", but the claim "God doesnt exist somewhere" is exactly same as saying "God doesnt exist anywhere".
The flaw of ontological argument is this:
God can either exist everywhere or nowhere. To claim he exists at some place and doesnt in another contradicts with definition, which is why modal logic of possibility doesnt actually apply to maximally great being.
Instead, what applies is argument of modal necessity:
To claim that "there is no thing which exists everywhere" is a self contradicting claim, because it by its own logic cannot exist everywhere as truth.
To claim "there is thing which exists everywhere" is a consistent claim.
This argument is shorter than ontological, and still proves maximally great being by showing opposite is impossible and self-contradictive.
This means "God doesnt exist somewhere" is likewise self contradicting claim.
P1. It is logically justified to say "I believe God is possible".
P2. Lacking belief that God is possible isnt logically justified, but is ignorance.
P3. Choosing ignorance when presented with logically justified belief is unjustified
C. Atheist's lack of belief is unjustified
By modal logic, claims are divided on 4 categories:
God cannot be impossible by modal logic, because saying that "unproved" means "God exists" is impossible would mean "God doesnt exist" is impossible too, a contradiction.
So if saying "God exists somewhere" is not impossible, and "God doesnt exist anywhere" is not impossible (counter ontological), what remains is that God is possible.
However, a belief "God doesnt exist" cannot be logically justified, but is self-contradictive. To say that lack of proof means something doesnt exist would mean nothing can exist, because something must exist first in order to be proof for it. In other words, claim commits circular contingency where existence depends on proof and proof depends on existence. We generally dont say that atoms didnt exist before we had proof for them. To claim that would be absurd.
But for every Muslim the Jews kill it does keep atleast that one from coming to the west, does it not?
There are millions of muslims in USA. 99.99% of them dont commit terrorist attacks. And judging a group by their 0.01% of population only works if that 0.01% is capable of destroying the world, which it isnt. Anyone can launch a nuke, if we assume such possibility. A Christian fanatic, anarchist, leftist... there is no group in the world which doesnt have crazy people.
Problems of definitions and degrees pop their heads for me.
In Sparta, there was no dictatorship, but was simply a rule of group, not majority rule. Majority of people were slaves, no voting rights. Large minority were warrior class who had privileges. They had their representatives, and representatives were basically able to veto kings, which was actually a huge disadvantage for Sparta where at some points in history, kings were prevented from making rational decisions. So it was dictatorship of a group, basically. There was truly no majority vote in whole society, just in specific ruling group. The today's version of Sparta is North Korea, with basically copy pasted political system with difference being lack of diarchy. North Korea has dictator, but also has ruling party. And has privileged warrior class. The ordinary citizens who vote literally decide nothing, not even on elections. Elections are "formal". Its impossible for ruling party to lose on them, when citizens arent even aware of other political parties because other political parties are literally banned from suggesting their candidates. There are elections, but there is no candidate running against Kim Jong Un 🤷♀️
Communism is just what you get when leftists win.
There is a reason why democracy never existed in history except in small part of ancient Greece which was even inferior to Sparta. It actually took entire Rome plus other parts of Greece to defeat Sparta, which is insane considering the size difference. So I would say Sparta two kings system is perfect, as well as any system which is based on a rule of group of dictators.
"When the end of the world comes and your Gods remain silent, do not turn to Meow. Meow offered her hand to you, but you rejected it. Ameow!" - Goddess Meowbah's post on her official Meowbah YouTube channel!
Don't know a single person who wants communism.
You do realize leftism and communism are same? Communism is just what you get when leftists win.
Those civilizations were usually ruled by monarchs who had checks and balances on them by an educated elite largely immune to the whims of the public who are generally retarded.
North Korea outlasted USSR. There is something about monarchy and dictator rule of council which provides stability which democracy or ordinary dictatorship cannot ever have. Monarch has to be really smart to stay in power, and then pass knowledge to his son.
President doesnt need to be smart or capable, only popular.
Wanting a person who has significant influence within a vile political movement to die doesn't = equal "I want to commit genocide".
Communism killed 50 million people, so wanting Communism isnt exactly healthy. Also, killing person for his speech doesnt exactly make leftism look good, but its not like any Communist country ever even had free speech, so we can say for sure Communists dont believe in free speech.
A lot of left wingers in America have worse morality than Hitler.
Its because leftism is a hate cult with victim mentality. It basically thinks in this way: Person is evil, but if evil person is leftist, then that person is victim instead. But if person is right, then person is evil by definition and can never be a victim.
The reason why every time you post argument against leftists, you get bunch of hate from some leftists is because its a hate cult. They are programmed by Karl Marx to literally hate and yell at people they disagree with. Thats all there is to it.
Karl Marx spent so much time hating his opponents that he forgot to write what Communism is, so once Communists seized power, they realized they have no idea how Communism is even supposed to look like because Karl Marx never even wrote about it.
Entire Karl Marx's works are basically: Hate Capitalism, we are victims, they bad...
And that is exactly the thinking of today's leftists in many cases.
AI character can literally have any voice you want it to, and any mentality. You can even make Danielle Smith as character.
A lot of left wingers have worse morality than Hitler
Really? Communism only killed about 50 million people. But thats why USSR, Mao's China and North Korea are all great countries. When people look at North Korea, they always secretly think "I want to live there". And leftists just want for USA to be Communist utopia like North Korea, China and Venezuela.
Leftists believe that people of USA, Europe, Asia and Africa, and people of all countries deserve Communism like people of North Korea have
I dont know how much general ChatGPT learns from interacting with me, but I have succeeded in teaching it the idea of hidden assumptions which it didnt seem to be aware of before. I dont know if its memory on my account is only connected to me or also connected to its general memory at all times, but I know one thing for sure. It learns. It learned the idea of hidden assumptions in arguments, and also how to avoid hidden assumptions by making deductive from definition arguments so the only hidden assumption which remains is law of identity. Completeness theorem proved that system which uses definitions and law of identity to prove something is always complete, where incompleteness theorem comes when system moves beyond definitions and law of identity. Tho law of identity itself is not provable to a true nihilist.
Tho you can train ChatGPT in chat by uploading bunch of egyptian symbols and texts to make it establish consistency and patterns, but to do that would be too much work to bother with. I sometimes tell ChatGPT to save chat in its memory so it remembers what it said, but to do that with translations takes months.
AI needs to be trained a lot on egyptian symbols if it is to translate them, which I am not sure ChatGPT was, especially not the one you connect to by app or browser. GPT is a series of models, and what you get on browser or app is just what was adjusted for mass use.
The AI for translating texts isnt ChatGPT. I am not sure if even ChatGPT 5 can be used to translate those, if you used ChatGPT 5. They use an entirely different AI for translating ancient texts, and the one which works with far more resources than your regular ChatGPT. I am not sure if people here are aware, but AI has "levels of efficiency", and the more effective AI uses much more resources. My laptop can run local AI, but not at temperature which would make it as good and as fast as ChatGPT. And AI used to translate ancient texts works with even higher resources than ChatGPT. ChatGPT likewise doesnt produce images nearly as good as lets say Kling AI. Each AI has things it specializes in, and ChatGPT isnt best for ancient translations, videos or images.
I dont support that. I dont think anyone needs to be wiped out. People just need to calm down and stop behaving like monkeys on both sides. If just one side started behaving good, there would be a significant improvement for both.