SatanLucy
I would guess that very few parents buy their kids vibrators, so don't feel too deprived Lucy.


Well, maybe it isnt a problem for other people, but other people probably didnt have to fuck a teddy bear and flower vase. I was hit on the head a lot, and that messed up my brain, so it started thinking about some things too early. Its a very special case.

SatanLucy

Okay.

SatanLucy · 8 months ago

I am literally making effort so you dont get perma banned. So try to insult me less at least while I do it.

SatanLucy

Okay.

SatanLucy · 8 months ago

Anyway, I was brought up in the once a week and carbolic soap generation.


I shower only once per week. I enjoy rotting in bed, an excellent way to punish my abusive parents by ruining myself. If I was a girl, I would be a slut, but since I am not, that option doesnt work. But being useless by doing nothing and caring for nothing works for me. I cant really reward my parents by being successful. they need to know that in their old age, no one will care for them, no one will provide for them, no one will love them, and they will have no grandchildren. Its all about psychological warfare, you see. War against mind.

SatanLucy

As I said, I have no any issues with debby. I dont know what issues you have, but debby doesnt prevent me from reading anyone's comment. And I even have poor eye sight, so someone with better vision would have it even easier to skip debby's comments.


On laptop, its extremely easy to open all the latest topics and see what happens. And skipping debby's comment takes less than a second. Not that I skip debby often. I find her comments useful sometimes. Sort of like having AI without having to open AI app and writing prompt.


Now, if we had 1000 debbys, sure, I would say ban 99% of them and leave only the most interesting ones. I personally wouldnt like a site full of AI spam, but I cant say current AI bothers me even one bit.


there is simply a case where something is not in sufficient amount to be harmful. But again, if debby posts too much, just limit number of her posts to 10 to 20 per day, and then you wont see as much AI spam.


When I think about it, I have opposed almost every ban in 2 to 3 year history of Debate art and debate craft.


the reason why I oppose bans is because people who do bans often assume banned members will be replaced by new members, but that doesnt usually happen.


It happens on big sites which have a brand. We currently dont have a brand. Almost no one thinks "debate craft" when someone asks for a debate site.


Building a brand isnt something you achieve by just banning members. In fact, the goal is to have site be useful to greatest number of people, and personally, I think live chat would benefit this site more than any debby ban which wont achieve anything.


Because this site is starting from almost zero, with income of new users being almost non-existent. You just dont get trigger happy with ban when you have like 15 regularly active users. Big sites with brand which is well known, they can get trigger happy with ban, but even those sites dont really practice permanent banning.


In fact, I dont know of any big site which has permanent ban. Youtube can ban you, but you can just make another account. Same with tik tok, and many other sites. Even gmail can ban you, and you can make another account.


So while I can agree that AI spam is bad if in too great amount, the way of handling it should be to minimize loss of users. Because, I repeat, we dont exactly have abundance of anything here. Debate art very much showed that even after almost all current users left, no new permanent users came to fill void.


Because this site lacks a lot of things which big sites have. User interface is generally confusing. there is no live chat. Only a small percentage of world population is actually interested in sites such as this one.


Because this site is ultimately built on old style forum model, useful for making notes, but nothing to really attract the masses. Even the voting system is designed to basically be survival of fittest debaters.


there is a reason no big site looks like this site. All big sites have trolls, AI...ect. But their design is completely different to this site.


this site should focus on user interface, and live group chat. that will be more attractive to new users. We see discord debate craft with live chat actually has a lot of engagement, and the main advantage of live chat is quicker responses which drive communication.


So I can understand being upset with site not growing as planned, but its ultimately because site is slow response design. New user can make a post and have no one respond to it for hours. Or make debate and have no one accept it for days. Its extremely unfriendly for new users, even when we ignore the fact that this site is built upon users devouring each other, which is opposite of many big sites which are usually built around giving users content they want to see.


this site should also have debating tutorial, and not in a sense of "this is how you debate", but that new users can see list of popular topics, and see best arguments for each side, easily accessible in few clicks. that will make this site desirable to visit for those seeking to quickly find arguments for specific topic.

SatanLucy
I literally 'can't scroll past them there.


You can. Just read other people's comments. Its really not difficult.


All I see is Debby


And I can see other people's comments too when I open some specific topic.



Sections of the internet with 'less AI, have an appeal to them.


If that were true, chatgpt alone wouldnt have 300 million requests per day.



They 'could be limited to 10 posts per day, but why limit 'ourselves to that?


You said the problem is that debby is last poster everywhere. Limiting her posts to 10 per day will effectively solve that problem without need for ban.

SatanLucy
But I think they harm the site by their posts discouraging people to join or stay.


A lot of sites have their own AI. I really dont see how debby discourages people to join or stay. You can just ignore debby, scroll past, its not difficult at all. I sometimes even appreciate debby's posts because some are smart or funny.


Theoretically, how many bots would people be willing to 'let join this site?


We are not dealing with that issue. We dont have 1000 bots spamming. We have debby, and if she is such a huge problem, I have said this before, limit number of posts she can make to 10 per day, and that should solve the issue of spam as well.


I agree site would be bad if we had 1000 debbys, but site would be bad if we had 1000 of almost any particular member, due to repetition. From what I see, there are few people using AI on this site, and its not an issue. AI is the future anyway.


While I can agree we shouldnt have AI become dominant on site, I also agree AI has its place, and isnt really something to be completely banned. AI input is often useful. Sort of like, you wouldnt want to live in country where there are million bears around your house, but you also dont want to go around eradicating all bears.

SatanLucy

how many?

SatanLucy · 8 months ago

However, if trump keeps attacking nato members, then nato will be basically forced to yield, and trump knows this. Nato members arent stupid enough to destroy themselves in war. Only few nato members actually have strength to resist USA. But trump will likely invade weaker ones. He realized Greenland is big territory, with basically no population to defend it. Its not about China or Russia. Its about Greenland being easiest possible target among nato members.

SatanLucy

how many?

SatanLucy · 8 months ago

Is it true that European countries are sending 1 or 3 or 13 soldiers to defend Greenland from Trump?


Number of soldiers doesnt matter. Attack on a single soldier would mean USA is effectively at war with rest of nato. And while I doubt that would ever result in some greater war, it would almost definitely mean dissolve of nato as it is, or to be more precise, kicking USA from nato, which would actually benefit nato because it seems biggest issues for nato usually come from USA anyway. then trump can form alliance with his buddies, Putin and Kim, and they can proceed to conquer and divide the rest of the world which doesnt have nukes.

SatanLucy
That 'really disincentivizes me to interact with any of those threads.


If debby bothers you, ignore debby and interact with others. Its not difficult. Just because debby is last poster doesnt make her only poster.

SatanLucy
Same here, a couple of times I have gone to a discord server link somebody is sending us to, either couldn't get in or couldn't figure out WTF once I was in. I'm pretty sure the whole discord thing is just for young people.


No idea what a discord handle is nor what a secret number is.


I agree that this voting process was made too complicated. When it comes to discord, its not that difficult. Just make discord account. then use invite link to join server. Once in, click to accept rules to join server.


Now, discord handle is a bit more complicated. It is basically your discord ID, which you copy from your profile and paste.


Secret code is whatever you want it to be.


And yeah, discord usually isnt this complicated, but this specific voting process is.


discord is basically just make account, join some server, chat there.


I do a lot of debating on discord on modern day debate. Also sometimes on discord debate craft.


But I probably place tik tok on number 1 place when it comes to being easy to use. tik tok just has crazy ban system where basically all sensitive words are banned and if you write them, your comment or video gets removed automatically. People find way around that, but its sure as hell annoying. I dont mind people on tik tok being almost as crazy as I am. I am fine with crazy people.


So if you ever decide to get into discord, probably check modern day debate server. It has plenty of activity. the only disadvantage is that people are retarded.

SatanLucy

If debby is such a huge problem, just limit number of her posts to 10 to 15 per day.


But I really dont see whats the big issue here. Its borderline spam at best, but its not like she is spamming 20 messages in a row.

SatanLucy
I have two cheap watches, both cost no more than £20...Other than battery replacement they have both worked faultlessly for 30+ years.


the advantage of this watch is that it doesnt need battery. I really hate battery replacements. So annoying.



Why would I waste my money on a Rolex.


I didnt waste my money on a rolex. Actual rolex costs like over 3000$. I used my money for much cheaper but same looking rolex fake. Only small number of people on Earth can tell its fake because it ticks. Other than that, it looks as good as real deal.

SatanLucy
Fake earphones can have 3 major issues:


Quality of music and sound clarity is far less, if you increase volume to compensate it sounds 'blurry' like white noise covers the audoo especially for hard beats or loud singing.


I dont have those issues. these new air pods are better than my previous ones, even on highest volume, which is my usual way of listening.




They begin fine but wear down far easier after even 1 drop or some extended use.


I dont usually drop things ever. But yeah, I will see if they wear down.



The entire thing could contain spyware inside as criminals made it. This would be listening in on you and sending outnaudoo without you even knowing or more likely it isnt fibctioning as audio spyware. If it is not audionspyware what it does is when you agree to share your call contacts etc it learns them, reads your texts, gains info and thwn uses that to eithwr imitate a contact to ypu onenday pretending he/she lost his/her phone or mimics YOU to even your own bank knowing your address, number, email etc. part of scamming cannbe that they learn a name of a place you are subscribed to, especially if it isnpornographiv or somethihg shameful, then they message you saying "I know what you did on this platform" and blackmail you.


Google also records all you say. My usual response to blackmail is that I usually dont care about blackmail. they have to try really hard to come up with something good to blackmail me, and even then I wouldnt care. But it is actually them who should be worried, as I am an expert in all fields of magic, and black magic happens to be my favorite.

SatanLucy

these are statistics for debate craft, assuming counter is accurate, for past 3 days:



1. 667 14072 126 (manually counted 29 posts in 17 hours of one day, on 01. 16.)


2. 674 14134 127


3. 674 14188 128 (debby unbanned around this time)


current


675 14226 128


So we see a sudden rise in posts today, apparently over 100 posts per day, compared with first day of less than 50 posts per day.


For me, this is indication that with debby unbanned, and me reducing my posts to let others talk, there is a sudden rise in activity, which is a good sign of this study being on correct path, and me reducing my posting seems to have positively affected activity for now, even activity of members who are not debby.


So I will continue working this way, with very few posts per day, to see if activity will further rise. I think 200 posts per day on site would be great, and maybe we can achieve that by me posting less.


Also, this month has brought me other victories, not just this.


I saw online discount sale of Apple air pods 2 Pro and rolex watch.


With air pods selling for 18$, and rolex selling for 50$, I figured these must be fake.


However, I saw a list of features those air pods offer, and they seem to be identical to apple air pods.


So I thought, hold on a second. I need good air pods. And if some fake air pods have all features of apple air pods, then what is even the difference between those fake air pods and apple air pods? And how does a scammer even profit if he sells that many features for 18$?


So I bought them, and when they arrived, I first tested noise cancelling, which seems to work surprisingly well. then I tested battery life, which is about 5 to 6 hours of non-stop listening at one charge of air pods. And air pods then charge very quickly once returned to their charging box.


So if these air pods are fake, they are very good fake. I literally cant tell the difference. they have all features of apple air pods, and sound quality and microphone quality is supreme, so good enough for 18$.


Now, rolex watch, rolex box, and rolex bag, and rolex certificate, all for 50$ is obviously fake.


the watch seems fake and used, although if it is some very old used model, I can understand there is a chance for it even being real.


Still, its nice to have watch which doesnt need battery, even if not real rolex.


Box is also nice, seems almost like real rolex box, which I understand sells for way over 50$ on its own.


Now, certificate and bag is what confuses me. Why would someone go through all the trouble of making fake rolex watch, rolex box, rolex bag, and rolex certificate, just to sell it for 50$? I mean, the production cost of all those alone would likely outweigh 50$, so the scammer is literally losing money there.


And yeah, the watch is nice. For a fake watch, it is even water resistant, and beautifully designed. I know its likely fake because it ticks. Only few of old models of rolex tick. So its either a very old used model, or fake used model.


But they sure put a lot of effort in producing all this just to sell it for 50$. I mean, even fake rolex watches usually go for 200$.


And lets face it, most people cant tell what a fake rolex watch is. Even I cant really tell if its fake or used older model. When I asked AI, it couldnt tell either.


Also, after becoming an expert at chasing cheap deals and buying things below their market value, on multiple online sales site, I also seem to be creating few new sources of income. Completing survey seems to give a few dollars, on sites which pay for survey completing.

SatanLucy
Two laws in that book address this. Playing the perfect courtier and do not outshine the master.


You actually want to outshine the master in crucial areas. It is how power is gained. there is actually little to no use in constantly bowing to powerful master. You dont become people's favorite by being some bowing buddy with master. You likewise dont become favorite by constantly taking credit, nor you become favorite by being master's errand boy.


the book says many contradictive things, because it has things entirely backwards.


the rule is very simple. Power is defined by influence over people. Influence over people is based on only two things: If those people fear you, or if they love you, or if they love what you provide.


Machiavelli has this correct, but then incorrectly concludes "it is better to be feared than loved". No, it is always better to be loved. In fact, it is best to be not feared at all, because that way you make no enemies. And being loved just means pure influence over decisions.

SatanLucy

I have an entirely different opinion. In magic work, it is a general rule that your words create your reality. So if your words are less than greatest, your reality will be too. In fact, this is so important that there is a crucial rule of acting and speaking as if your wish already came true. And this is true in magic, in religions like when you call the Monad. Even your brain naturally gets better at something when it thinks it is already good at it, because it gets more dopamine when it does it, and as a result, more brain power dedicated to it. Emotions such as fear, depression, and hopelessness generally reduce effectiveness and will to progress, even if you dont believe in magic.


that is psychology. Now in magic, reality can be affected by words, symbols, actions and frequencies, in scientific terms through butterfly effect, in magic terms, reality is altered by words, symbols, actions, thoughts and frequencies in a way which goes beyond observable world and affects reality through effects which cannot be scientifically measured, but believers feel them clearly.


Well, I did get rolex and apple air pods 2 pro this week, so I guess my magic effects can also be measured scientifically. In a very short time, I became very good at a lot of things, even finding great prices of otherwise very costly products. I sort of became an expert at finding best prices online by comparing mass data of same products, and focusing on best affordable products.

SatanLucy

48 laws of power has it backwards. Seducing those in power isnt as effective as seducing those who placed them there, or upon which their power depends. this is why being popular among masses is more important than being good with ruler. Ruler is controlled by masses, as masses are more powerful than ruler and generally can overthrow him easily.


48 laws of power is worse than Machiavelli strategy, because Machiavelli at least plays it fully safe. With 48 laws of power, you are more likely to expose yourself and make enemies, and one of most basic rules of safety is to not increase number of enemies. Getting good with your master is basically guaranteed to make you a more likely target of others, as well as make others jealous. 48 laws of power would result in just chaos and failure for most people.


Because what most people dont understand is that you dont want to have position of power, you want to be the one who makes decisions while at the same time doesnt take responsibility for them if they go wrong.


In simple terms, you dont want to be the leader, you want to control the leader.

SatanLucy

Debby will be unbanned soon, so then we will see if activity increases. Current activity is less than 50 posts per day.

SatanLucy
Therefore, I am the artist, not A.I


My art is combination of me and AI. So AI makes up where I lack, or speeds up the process which would normally take longer.

SatanLucy

Art is something I engage in too, tho personally I often use AI to convert my real life drawings into image. For example, I will draw on paper and ask AI to place drawing from paper on white background. I am not any expert in drawing. However, symbol on my profile photo is 100% original and made by me. It was just slightly corrected using AI. Now, as I said, I am not going to say windows is better than apple in terms of art. I am quite sure that "paint" which comes on windows is just the most basic drawing program and isn't even used probably by most artists. And I am not familiar with how good Adobe Illustrator is, to be able to compare it to programs from windows.

SatanLucy

Another thing, the only way you can get good advice is if you are honest. Being honest makes it more likely for you to get good advice to guide you to better path. Being strong and silent means you miss out on a lot of advice, and that does a good deal of harm to planning.