Stephen

especially Donald Trump.


But the Goy has made claims he still hasn't backed up, has he bone head? There are hundreds of "names" mentioned in those files apparently so are we to look forward to hundreds of accusations of rape and sexual assault?

You really do make some pathetic statements most of the time , Deb. So what does it "specifically say about President Trump. And lets se your proof.

Stephen

Belief ≠ Faith

Stephen · 3 months ago

All very ambiguous then.



Both words are used in scripture. However, they cannot and should not be interchanged



Is this to say that not any words or phrases in the bible are interchangeable?


Stephen

You do like talking bollocks , don't you, Deb?


This booklet ( that I know you haven't even read) is nothing short of an admission that all those people that government labelled as "Far Right Nationalists, Islamophobes, racists and bigots" actually did in fact have genuine fears for the safety their children young girls and their women born from the catastrophic immigration policies of our governments since the days of Blair, Brown, Mandelson and Campbell ( the Four Horsemen of the English Apocalypse picture below) distributed to barbarians.

A genuine fear bore out by the daily sexual attacks on women and girls which government ignored for 40 fkn years! and will continue to ignore regardless of this pathetic booklet handed to animals from specifically third world shitholes .


Stephen
yeah paid over 80 millions on one of the most slamdunk cases and is all over the epstein files implicating him way more with even underage.


You must have missed my questions HERE>>>


Ok. Who did he rape.? When did he rape her? Was he ever charged with rape? Did he have a trial? Did he plead guilty or not guilty? When was his trial?


I do have more questions but if you wouldn't mind answering just those few it would be helpful and I will be grateful. I'd like to look into this (your accusation) for myself.


Stephen
Debby: to force the British to comply. 


Stephen: comply to with what?



Debby: To foreign advances. Romantic cultural approaches.


Explain what you mean by comply with "foreign advances and cultural approaches"?

Stephen

I notice that no one has attempted to answer the question of - why did government feel the need to have to write print and issue such a pamphlet to illegal immigrants and "asylum seekers" here in England? Although Shoresy hit the post.


I'm reminded of that pathetic video put out by left wing libtards in Finland about 6-7years ago aimed at immigrants . I don't think it aged too well considering sexual assaults, harassment and rapes committed by their" guests " has increased over the last seven years in Finland


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Uru_vZZ8U



Stephen

to issue this pamphlet to illegal immigrants/ "asylum seekers"?


'Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises', asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK

UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.




https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

Stephen
Hmmmm, I'm guessing that Mary got impregnated by a Priest when she was 14

And you are correct.

Considering that the ancient Jews had two "weddings", a betrothal (engagement) and then a wedding proper 10 or 12 months later


and then told her son that God was the father.


And the poor girl at first was amazed frightened and confused because she had never been with a man . But it appears that she was somehow convinced by the priest that she would bare such a wonderful child from god that she went bounding off to tell her sister all about it.


*Unfortunately for her this child raping priest/ angel/messenger hadn't told her the whole gospel truth. He left out the part about her son (from "god") would suffer a vile vicious torturous death and that she would witness it.


"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" is a famous cry of deep pain found in the Bible. Jesus speaks these exact words while dying on the cross, as recorded in the Gospels of Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34.


See *

And strangely but not surprisingly, the evangelists can't even make up their minds on what day he was crucified, who actually carried the cross to Golgotha and what words were actually spoken by Mary's son while suffering and supposedly dying on the cross while his mum watched from the foot of the cross, OR was it watching him suffer while peering over a wall into a private garden "from afar"? And we re told that the bible isn't ambiguous or vague.


Stephen
"Woke" "Truth".


I believe the woke mind virus to be a true thing.. I have noticed of late that many of those left wing retards that suffered this incapacitating mind virus appear to be recovering and are able to think freely for themselves, and are regretting that they suffered from it........ they have simply grown out of the stupidity.

As shown here> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=I+am+sorry+to+maga



Not sure that I can say the same for so called religious people.

Stephen
 Many people like me think religions make no sense because they've told us stupid stories, [.......]


That'll be because many are stupid and many misunderstood even by Priests All those so called "miracles" especially in the New Testament can be explained . Loaves and fishes or instance were simply titles of novices for adherents that resided at Qumran .... In the early 70's I asked a Priest once: did Ezekiel see a spaceship ? His reply to me was ignorant and dismissive with words to the effect " there were no spaceships in that time you silly stunt".

I believe Ezekiel could well likely have witnessed a UFO. He was simply describing something the best he could with words relative of the the time.


I have said this many times : example; the plains Indians of North America on first seeing a steam train called it a "Iron Horse". A rifle a they called a "Stick that Makes Thunder".


The bible often talks about beings coming and going and ascending and descending on "clouds of fire and smoke". Now go find yourself a video of a 21st century rocket launch at Cape Canaveral Florida and it will/might make sense .

Stephen



God is not the cause of suffering just because he allows it. That's not a root cause because it is not his doing in the first place;


So tell us, What do you believe is the "root cause" of mankind's suffering is"? and why do you say it is not god that causes suffering?


I think that is a falascious idea that suffering was supposed to end. That is not an eartly event, but one of heaven,


Are you sure about that?


Stephen

Confession was introduced into church dogma in the early 12/13 hundreds. It was simply a way for the local priest to know what was going on in the towns and villages of the time. i.e. Who was doing what and to who they were doing it to or with. The priest got to learn the local gossip to know if Mrs jones was shagging her husbands brother or John Smith had slipped one into a married woman while his brother Michael was raiding her hen house.

This then could be used by the priest to reveal to the guilty what god had revealed to him about Jones and Smith.




Stephen

From your favourite trusty go - to source "Debby". READ IT AND WEEP YOU UTTER CRETIN!


Cultural Context for "Having a Demon"

In the ancient Near East, behaviors that society could not explain were often attributed to spiritual causes:

  1. Insanity and Delusion: When Jesus challenged the religious authorities in Jerusalem, they accused him of having a demon and being insane, effectively using it as an idiom to mean "you are out of your mind". [1]
  2. Physical Illness: The Bible sometimes attributes conditions like muteness, seizures, or blindness to an unclean spirit, though ancient people likely used these descriptions to explain symptoms we now understand as medical. [1, 2]


Primary Definitions of Demonic Influence

  1. Spiritual Oppression: The Apostle Peter writes in Acts 10:38 that Jesus went around healing those who were "oppressed by the devil." This highlights a condition where external malevolent forces weigh heavily upon a person’s mind or life. [1]
  2. Deception and Temptation: In the New Testament, having a demon also encompasses being spiritually deceived or influenced away from the truth. For example, the Apostle Paul warns in 1 Timothy 4:1 that people can be led astray by "deceiving spirits." [1, 2, 3]


Academic and Theological Perspectives

Scholars and theologians hold varying perspectives on the reality and definition of demonic possession:

  1. Literal and Spiritual Reality: Many traditional and conservative theologians believe that demons are literal fallen angels that can enter and control a non-believer's actions or speech, seeking to destroy human lives and pull them away from God. [1, 2]
  2. Metaphorical and Psychological: Many progressive or modern scholars suggest the biblical writers used the language of "demonic possession" as a prescientific framework to describe severe mental illness, trauma, epilepsy, or moral failings.

For further reading on the cultural and linguistic context, you can explore the Bible Study Tools or examine the scholarly breakdowns offered by The Gospel Coalition regarding New Testament demonology. [1]


this is so accurate I believe I could have written that myself forty years ago.


Off you go now stupid!

Stephen

Anyway, back to the topic my original post.


I have have come across a wonderful piece of work that appears to agree with me.

In their book The Hiram Key _ Pharaohs, Freemasons And The Discovery Of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus- authors Christophe Knight and Dr Robert Lomas wrote as follows:

" Sometimes people underwent a temporary 'death ' by leaving the inner group and then being readmitted [raised from the dead]. An example of this was Lazarus, who lost his nerve when the going got tough towards the end of Jesus' life.

They go on:

"The kind of expression of the 'living and the 'dead' has been shown, beyond all doubt, to have been the terminology used at the rime of Jesus and those that insist on taking it literally not only deny all the evidence but also do a great disservice to a unique and brilliant teacher........."

"The idea of a rotting corpse being brought back to life would have been a disgusting concept to all Jews of the age, and for modern Christians to think that such things were spoken of in such a matter- of - fact way is as foolish as thinking that magic carpets were the usual mode of transport in Baghdad. people who are generally pragmatic seem open to believing that the ridiculous could have happened in the remote past in some lost 'golden age'. "


So unless anyone can convince me otherwise, I am sticking to my own belief that "raising the dead" is / was, nothing more than an initiation ceremony into the inner circle of the Jesus movement of called the "living".


Stephen
Debby wrote: After the Jews rejected Jesus and demanded he be crucified. Jesus was resurrected and changed his instructions .
Mark 16:15 
He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.”
After Jesus rose from the dead, he gave his disciples this commission: to go and preach the gospel to everyone. 


You just love your cans of worms don't you, you thick bellend.


He didn't die so - like Lazarus- he never came back to life, unless "coming back to life" in those days also meant coming to his senses and had accepted that his mission had failed in his homeland and simply couldn't beat the might of Rome with just a few thousand cutthroat thieving zealots from the bandit province of Galilee so had to recruited from elsewhere.

Off you go now thicko and learn some real ancient historical facts instead of ancient fairy tails.



Stephen
So his disciples were aware that he could be a bit of a discriminatory arsehole.

Good morning Serge

As clearly shown in both verses from the BIBLE Serge !, Yep Jesus was a Jew through and through and had no time for non Jews even gentiles that had converted to Jewry. So Christians don't mean anything to him, I believe he would have been appalled that a whole new religion had sprang up in his name.

Have a nice day my mate.

Stephen

I think it was maybe a little bit more than scepticism. Jesus hated the gentiles even the Jewish ones and he hated the Jew Samaritans even more so., to the point where he told his followers "not to go anywhere near them", reminding them that he had come only to the lost tribes of Israel. this is another instance that your Christian just cannot accept. Matthew 10


He refused to cure a gentile Jewish woman's daughter because he believed them to be lower than dogs .Matthew 15


Stephen

Morning ,Serge. Indeed secret scrolls must be a thorn in the side of many a believer, except when they appear to come down on their side.

Thing here is though; with or without such findings many of these biblical ambiguous stories of "miracles" that appear in the New Testament in particular can be worked out from the bible itself..

"Walking On Water" was a bit difficult for me to work out for a while, until it dawned on me one day that the Sea of Galilee actually has tides and sandbars; not in the sense of ocean tides but tides all the same. it was then that the penny dropped. Do you get my meaning, Serge?


Stephen


You asked me above

 SirAnonymous Are these objections original with you, or did you get them from somewhere?


At the time my answer to you was this:

Stephen: I wouldn't know is a short answer. ......


But since then I have have come across a wonderful piece of work that appears to agree with me.

In their book The Hiram Key _ Pharaohs, Freemasons And The Discovery Of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus- authors Christophe Knight and Dr Robert Lomas wrote as follows:

" Sometimes people underwent a temporary 'death ' by leaving the inner group and then being readmitted [raised from the dead]. An example of this was Lazarus, who lost his nerve when the going got tough towards the end of Jesus' life.

They go on:

"The kind of expression of the 'living and the 'dead' has been shown, beyond all doubt, to have been the terminology used at the rime of Jesus and those that insist on taking it literally not only deny all the evidence but also do a great disservice to a unique and brilliant teacher........."

"The idea of a rotting corpse being brought back to life would have been a disgusting concept to all Jews of the age, and for modern Christians to think that such things were spoken of in such a matter- of - fact way is as foolish as thinking that magic carpets were the usual mode of transport in Baghdad. people who are generally pragmatic seem open to believing that the ridiculous could have happened in the remote past in some lost 'golden age'. "

So unless anyone can convince me otherwise, I am sticking to my own belief that "raising the dead" is / was, nothing more than an initiation ceremony into the inner circle of the Jesus movement of called the "living".