Thoth


Wryly wrote:

Thoth wrote:
FYI, with me around, putting anyone at more than 2 votes is putting them at L-1. It’s remarkable that nobody has pointed that out iircz

I assumed you wouldn't be voting except to prove your role, so you'd target someone with no wagon on them

Yeah, but like if you buy into Rex’s 3p theory

Thoth
Wryly wrote:
Is that one of the things moderators deem no-no or something

From what I’ve seen, yes, but some other players have seen more than I have. Being able to check alignment claims essentially makes it a Strengthened Cop on anyone who claims alignment, when otherwise its main drawback that it can get false positives on alignment when Town tells whoppers.

Thoth

FYI, with me around, putting anyone at more than 2 votes is putting them at L-1. It’s remarkable that nobody has pointed that out iircz

Thoth

I have a bad gutread of Rex. Call it OMGUS if you want, but you know my role ain’t TP lmfao. I am tempted to triplehammer him just for that.

Thoth

How exactly does your ability work? Did you choose someone to talk to? Will it end overnight? Is Pie confirmed town to you?

Thoth

I'm Mexicans. I have a triple-vote that I can use once, and only before MYLO/LYLO. Justification is that Mexicans border-hop to the U S of A by the truckload and all vote Democrat, so I can summon my entire familia to vote for me.

Thoth

If y'all are about to lynch me, I will say that my role is confirmable at any time when Lunatic is on to do so. My alignment is not directly confirmable, but I can't imagine this role being anything other than town.

Thoth

Lunatic out here pinging me while I'm finding movies to torrent fml. Why can't he just let me wait until 4am to post like usual?

Thoth
Wryly wrote:
Depends. In Chicago Bears mafia the Tailor could not affect alignment. In Alien mafia whiteflame tailored Casey from town to 3P.

I don't mean to criticize the habit of looking to past games for information, but I think we should all keep in mind that there's no rulebook for game hosts on here, and we are free to design our roles however we want.

Thoth

Well, that was a spectacular mislynch on my part, but it's not like I was the only one who couldn't believe it.


How y'all doin'?

Thoth
whiteflame wrote:
I agree, though a bunch of roles like this is necessarily going to fall prey to (2). This role and others like it exist as roles used in actual games.

Can you cite any roles from past games with a purely subjective chat restriction?

Thoth

Hey there, wylted. Good to see you subbing for Casey. You forgot your car the last time you came over to my place to purchase some goods. Please come collect it. I have your keys.

Thoth


whiteflame wrote:
Helz wrote:
On Kohai something I really do want people to give some thoughts on is if a negative chat modifier that can result in modkill on a Vanilla town role makes sense. That keeps getting glazed over and it pings me really hard. That role feels like a massive slap in the face to the point I question if its possible to exist.

As someone who strongly considered giving Luna this exact role (admittedly with a PR to accompany it - see Heiter in the Frieren game), I'm hesitant to say that it doesn't make sense. It's odd that that's all it is, but if there just isn't a lot of negative utility in play for town, I could see it being one way to insert it. It's not the way I'd do it, but I can only say it's implausible.

I mean, I thought about claiming in Magoroth’s abortive Apocalypse game that I had to communicate by prompting a large language model and posting the output. I don’t question the possibility of a chat requirement like this. What I doubt are (1) that it’s optional, which just makes it funny soft-claiming and (2) that meeting the requirement is subjective.

Thoth

Let me put it like this. We VTNL or lynch someone today. I doubt we will VTNL. Even if we are not sure that Kohai is scum, he is clearly the scummiest option.

Thoth

Honestly, I think that appealing to, “it’s an outside possibility, but we should act as though it’s a serious risk”, is the archetypal scumtell, and not just from Banana.

Thoth
Banana wrote:
i dont see y to go thru all this effort with the drunk posting frst of all if hes scum, theres better claims.

There are also players better at fake-claiming. My question is what scum team lets Kohai do this, if Kohai asked their approval.

scnd wehn weve seen him as scum before he has slipped, but this isnt a standard slip it is much different, its based on a play he was making as a bait. i agree it is a stupid play, but he seems genuine.

You will get no argument from me that Kohai is genuinely stupid.

i also dont get why he continues the drunk thing after voting for himself and accepting defeat.

Because retracting that would make him look even more dishonest?

i think he made a bad decision, but sometimes town do that too, we have seen it a lot, and i know for one i have done it a lot too. if he is the lynch im fine with it, i understand it, but i think we should be looking at people who are all in on this and not givin him any town credence. i just dont see why no one can see a world where he is town.

I can see a world where he is town, but I don’t think it’s likely, and Mafia is a game of working from what is most likely true, not what is guaranteed.