Thoth
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 1:43 AM (post #584)
Also have you asked Banana about the order of operations? Would really help tell us if Pie was converted last night or if he started the game as team scum

I asked Banana if Pie would register as guilty if he were Yakuza'd, and she answered that Pie would register as guilty whether he were original or converted scum.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 1:41 AM (post #581)
Question is do they kill me or do they kill you tonight. Town feels kinda stacked what kinda abilities does scum have? Other than Yakuza which is one-shot

The only way they don't kill me is if they want to convertedscumpaint me.

Thoth

Jokes aside, I think this day phase is now old enough that I can legally flip it on its back and raw-dog it.


I am Dani Acosta, Methodical Cop. Justification is that Dani Acosta is methodical and a cop. I submitted a list of players before the end of day 1. Each night, I cop the highest player on the list, skipping dead players, including anyone who dies that night.


I would rather not post my list to stop scum from interfering on the off chance I survive this day phase, but Pie was my first choice and I got a guilty result on him last night. Any defenses I made of him or suggestions we move to someone else were reaction tests.


VTL: ILikePie5

Thoth

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Thoth

And yes I assume so, if the Tailor showed them the role first, but, again, asking that as a question instead of stating it in a condescending way like we should have figured it out first isn't like you.

Thoth
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 8:42 PM (post #567)
Okay, that means he was telling the truth about having a confirmable role, which explains the NK.

You're waiting for me to answer your question and then agreeing with me about this very obvious game fact, as though I am the authority on how Mafia works? This is so out-of-character for you that it's painful.

Thoth
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 8:33 PM (post #565)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:29 PM (post #564)
Yakuza technically is confirmable by using it and flipping lol

But you’re saying if scum had a Tailor, then Kohai was Town right?

I think that goes without saying.

Thoth
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 8:15 PM (post #558)
In that scenario though, Kohai would’ve been Town, which theoretically is possible? He claimed a confirmable role, which Mikal is the only one who has. I guess if they wanted to manipulate just like Mikal/WF, then it’s possible

That's pretty easily explainable. Claiming a confirmable role in day 1 as scum is a free pass to live long enough to Yakuzate someone.

Thoth

The suggestion of a Tailored Yakuza like in Alien Mafia is interesting. It crossed my mind earlier, but I didn't really consider it because I don't think Banana would subject us to a Tailor. That could change if I knew someone else helped her build this game.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/29/2026 at 7:59 PM (post #553)
I think its prob pie or luna. Kohai could have just yeeted himself cus pie would shit talk him the entire game

Gun to their head. You have to shoot Pie or Luna. Who do you pick?

Thoth
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 1:33 PM (post #533)
I have the unique ability that, if I die to a nightkill, or if I get voted, if the person who killed me is a member of the Mafia, all votes the following day are anonymous, meaning people have to vote by PMing Banana. You can still tell us who you voted for tho

Does this only activate if you are lynched, or does a single vote trigger it?

Thoth

A question I want everyone to answer. If you were Kohai's scummate, who would you have Yakuzaed and why?


I might change my answer after more rereading, but I probably would have gone either Pie because he is a strong player and his push on me would have made WIFOMable distance, or Magoroth because I think he's a good player and I like him personally. Probably not Lunatic because his defense of me would look like buddying. Not Casey since I would never recruit an inactive without an extremely specific reason, unless I knew someone would sub for them.

Thoth

I think we have been tunneling Pie too much. Deservedly, but I want to look somewhere else for now, i.e., I am going to try to sleep now and I hope that y’all will have done so by the time I wake up.

Thoth


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:58 AM (post #493)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 1:08 AM (post #492)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 AM (post #490)
What do you think of pies claim?
Judging only from the information in the flipped role cards since I am not a From fan, Pie's claimed justification is weaker than Rex's or Kohai's. I also thought the writing style had a tinge of ChatGPT-esque je ne sais quoi, but that might be evidence in Pie's favor since the cards were at least partially AI-generated. It's an average-weak claim, if you ask me. I did not visit Magic, so I can't question that.

I think kohais unwillingness to lynch him was pretty evident of their association ngl. Scum kohai kills pie there all day. At the bare minimum if pie was town, then it was kohais plan to recruit him, either way, not a good look for pie.

They knew Kohai was Yakuza and probably that he would use it that night. Why buddy Pie so strongly? However bad Kohai’s decisions are when he makes them, Pie would surely have coached him.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 AM (post #490)
What do you think of pies claim?

Judging only from the information in the flipped role cards since I am not a From fan, Pie's claimed justification is weaker than Rex's or Kohai's. I also thought the writing style had a tinge of ChatGPT-esque je ne sais quoi, but that might be evidence in Pie's favor since the cards were at least partially AI-generated. It's an average-weak claim, if you ask me. I did not visit Magic, so I can't question that.

Thoth
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 1:49 AM (post #480)
It’s different for you. You suck at making coherent arguments. It helps town if you’re not on the chopping block at MYLO/LYLO cause you would fail 10/10 times 1v1ing someone like me, Mag1c or Luna.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

Thoth
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 1:48 AM (post #478)
Ive pointed it out multiple times in the past. It’s golden rule. Convince the 2 townies on your wagon that you’re town by any means necessary.

Yes, that is totally valid.

Thoth

I can totally imagine a Pie/Kohai scum chat just being Pie telling Kohai to shut the fuck up, which could explain why Kohai made so few posts.

Thoth
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 1:41 AM (post #472)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/28/2026 at 7:14 PM (post #431)
VTL: ILikePie5
I was sus enough of him yesterday.

So you aren’t now?

I still have some reading to do from last DP, but right now I think you are 'only' my top suspect, not scumlock.

Thoth

I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth, but part of me wants a claim from Lunatic. As sus as I was, and still am, of Pie, his defense of me yesterday seemed kind of like buddying, especially what with how pissed he was at me for some of my design and hosting choices in Majora's Mask, which I still need to write the endgame for.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:32 AM (post #275)
If we lynch pie, and he flips scum, look into kohai. Pie has been strangely avoidant of him this game, he always pressures kohai.

This almost locks Lunatic or Pie as the other OG scum if you ask me.

Thoth
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 9:28 AM (post #271)
Youre conflating two separate things. My original push on Thoth was because I wanted to solve him early. Then after rereading, I saw he was basically following you with respect to Wylted. Not just me who saw it after I pointed it out. Wylted and Mag1c did as well. So then best case, we lynch scum Thoth. Worst case we solve Thoth as town.

This sounds reasonable except that I could just as well reductio ad absurdum this logic by demanding that everyone claim on day 1 so that we can lynch them if scum or solve them if town.

Thoth

I am ISOing Pie since he is today's top suspect

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 9:14 AM (post #259)
Also L-1 is not an intimidation tactic. It ensures there’s at least 2 townies wanting a claim from you. It’s golden rule. Common sense. I never said I’m refusing to claim at L-1. I wholeheartedly and happily will, as I’ve done all the time

I had never thought about it like that, but this is reasonable and I would have claimed at L-1 last day phase if you had pointed this out and, more importantly, were not acting like you wanted to steal my l(y/u)nch money.