Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/26/2026 at 9:41 PM (post #35)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/25/2026 at 10:50 PM (post #7)
I do like Thoth's early initiative to get people to claim how they voted.
Why?
Possibly because it's a good idea and there's no reason for me to believe anyone else would have thought of it. Call me arrogant, but Casey, Kohai, Lunatic, Magoroth, and wylted had posted before I brought it up.
I tentatively townread him because his claim sounds less absurd to me than Lunatic was making it sound.
Jesus fuck can we get some activity in here
I suppose that ipse dixit is the cardinal sin of debating, but some arguments are so logically or ethically deformed that the only proper response is a flat no like Kyle and Stan in the South Park NAMBLA episode. "Dude, you have sex with children!" Like that video on Debatecraft's Youtube channel where Bullish advocated for eleventh-trimester abortion. "Dude, you are advocating for making it legal to kill children!"
Those same women will call a miscarriage a tragedy because the mother wanted the baby, as though being wanted by your parents decides whether or not you are human.
Sarah's biggest burden is from the voices telling her that if she did not kill everyone who arrived in the two vehicles (Jim, Tabitha, Julie, and Ethan from the RV and Tobey and Jade from the Audi), her brother would die and there would be a massacre like the last time two cars arrived the same day.
This seems like solid justification for PGO to me. Sure, there might be other details that don't fit with PGO, like the next sentence in that article, but any justification can have holes poked in it.
Re: Lunatic's #58 in the previous thread
In general, I'd at least most mods would give scum some sort of counter to a cop. However, you may be cooking with the point about the offer implying that town knowing this role could mean its a useful role to know about. I could probably be swayed into a yes.
I think it's more evidence for a no because just knowing that there is such a role is useful by itself.
I could say a lot of things about Pie but nobody ever accused him of being stupid
Expanding on post #51, a PGO claim could be from a scum role that does not want to be visited. I wonder what that could be
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/25/2026 at 10:21 PM (post #50)
So let's say we find out the role is a Godfather or roleblocker or something. Does that really help us that much in the grand scheme of things, when those are common to scum anyway? Just have to weigh if the knowledge is worth a potential buff.
The offer implies that scum have a role where just knowing about it helps town. This is useful information in and of itself. Like, knowing that scum have a roleblocker is not very helpful since we would probably find that out by day 2 and would probably choose the same targets for our night actions anyway, but knowing that scum have a Godfather could change how a Cop plays.
The possibility of clearing four townies is even more titillating than a 1-in-4 PoE. That basically guarantees at least one confirmed townie at MYLO/LYLO.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/25/2026 at 9:57 PM (post #37)
Theres a cheese strat where we force 4 people to vote yes, and if it doesn’t go through, it’s basically confirmed that there’s scum in that pool. I don’t think Banana thought of this though
You sound opposed to it. Coming from you, that's enough behavioral information that I am tempted to give into the urge to OMGUS. I would expect you to be the first person other than Mikal to exploit a bug.
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/25/2026 at 8:42 PM (post #31)
Thoth's assumption that mafia knows what role would get revealed, and what power they would gain is interesting, possibly TMI.
I'm not assuming anything. I'm mentioning the possibility. Scum tend to get more information than town does. That's kind of the core of Mafia.
Potentially even by the end of this DP.
On second thought, it’s not necessary that scum have an incentive to vote one way or the other for my plan in post #20 to work. Town just have to be honest about how they voted.
Let me explain with an example. Let’s say 4 people say they voted Yes and 5 say they voted No. Since only townies’ votes count, if the vote passes, all four Yes voters are cleared. If not, at least one Yes voter is lying.
We can create a crushing PoE by DP2 this way.
before this game i invited all the signups (except mago because he wasnt signed up yet) to a group chat and suggested we type without our shift key. apparently people arent doing that. and the chat devolved into a racist joke convention anyway. luv u wylted
I asked Banana some questions about my role, and, if I understand the answers correctly, they tilt me towards believing PGO is unlikely. I'm sussing wylted, but I guess it's possible.
This assumes that Mafia have at least some incentive to vote for one particular option
It's impossible for me to make an educated decision about whether to vote Yes or No without knowing what role will be revealed publicly or what advantage Mafia will gain if we vote Yes. Instead of agreeing which way to vote, I think we are better off MacGyvering this into a bargain-bin Sensor. Mafia probably know which role will be revealed and what advantage they will get if we vote Yes. If we conspire to vote roughly 50/50 and we all announce which way we are voting, and then the vote swings differently than the public claims predict, we will have a decent PoE for who lied about their vote.
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 8/24/2026 at 10:20 PM (post #28)
Originally Posted by Banana on 8/14/2026 at 8:30 PM (post #17)
its a horror sci fi tv show about this lil town that people get stuck in and cant leave, and theres terrifyin monsters that come out at night and rip people apart
Nice, a game set in Detroit
Mafia Host — Game complete
The host has marked this game complete. The phase clock and vote counter are stopped.
Winning faction: Check Discord
Postgame discussion is now open.
Postgame discussion closes: Sun, 23 Aug 2026 23:59:31 GMT.
Host note: Congratulations to Lunatic and Mag1cman
Day 3 has ended with at least one scum alive. Scum win! Congratulations to Lunatic and Mag1cman.
Endgame will be up tonight.
