Thoth
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/10/2026 at 10:48 PM (post #360)
Because I do feel it was obvious. You can disagree with that, but Thoth nearly figured it out.

Until you mentioned a photograph, I was thinking Governor, and my main qualm was that Bill Clinton would have fit better since he was the Governor of Arkansas before becoming President. I figured Helz might have missed that in #345 because Governor might not exist or be called something else in his Mafia background.

Thoth

I think there's no harm in me claiming at this point except for the same reason as whiteflame, for the potential of counter-claiming or at least forcing scum to use a question. Could be wrong

Thoth
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 9:34 PM (post #163)
Plus if I recall correctly in mag’s game where we had a blackmailer the person blackmailed wasn’t even allowed to directly claim to be blackmailed.

That's because Mag1c announced it in the OP.

Thoth
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/10/2026 at 10:18 PM (post #339)
I do think there's value in keeping it hidden even now, but I'll admit that's become a whole lot less so since I was Vanillaized.

If it's what I think, the only possible value is from the off chance of a counter-claim. Notwithstanding that it would have been a better fit for another claimed character.

Thoth

I'm about 50% confident that I know what role whiteflame is, but if he's lying then it's useless information, and if he's telling the truth there's no reason to out it.


I could claim my character since I don't think it would give away my role.


I consider investigatives to be more critical than Doctor, and I'm curious for your take on that.


I want to examine the possible scum teams assuming Mag1c is scum.

Thoth

Again, I disagree with calling this game's time-budgeting system an instant-win mechanic. It's no different than day/night phases with separate clocks in that Mafia wins if town lets deadlines expire without lynching.

Thoth

#136: I get the logic of claiming to be 1 of 2 things, but effectively vanilla or PGO strike me as a weird pair. Dunno why vanilla would go on that list except to claim something that won't be counter-claimed.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #331)
Which one and why?

The currently unclaimed people are myself, Lunatic, and Mag1cman. I feel decent on Luna and not so decent on Mag1c. Any of the other four could be lying, I don’t know which.

Thoth

Re: #117, I built my Madoka Magica game on here over an alignment-changing mechanic, and I was astounded to learn that MU considers alignment changes bastard.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:32 PM (post #320)
You, Mag1c and Luna are the only ones that haven’t. Unless y’all have some super god powers then we are very under powered here.

Again, one of the current claimants has most likely lied.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:31 PM (post #318)
Problem is this is still really powerful especially I. The face of all this negative utility

Not everyone has claimed, and I figure there is at least one liar among the claimants.

Thoth

I don't get all the talk around post #100 about Blackmailer + Vanillaizer being OP. It's not that OP if scum have nothing else. Wonky, but not OP

Thoth
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:11 PM (post #313)
True. But if there’s a town role that could lead to someone being silenced then they should claim

Yeah, I meant it could be a variant of scum silencer lol

Thoth
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:09 PM (post #311)
Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: I someone who is black mailed typically is not allowed to claim that they were blackmailed

It could just be a variant of silencer, but it is sus.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 8:01 PM (post #94)
Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: Troocallt someone who is black mailed isn’t even allowed to claim that.

Troocallt ?

Thoth
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 7:38 PM (post #306)
To respond to this, I made the exact same point in the last game I was popular:
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/n/deltarune-mafia-chapter-2?page=8&comment_number=231

Consider that point dropped, then.

Thoth

I do prefer this supposed self-announce silencer (has to be Silencer at this point) over mod-announced because of the ambiguity over whether or not it’s real, and would like it to become the meta for Silencer around here.

Thoth

My current feeling is that Magic is scum and faked the Blackmail knowing it seems to fit the theme split super well. It might be an early planned bus with Helz, but I doubt it. Could be worth looking to see if anyone’s reads echo the sort of sentiments Mag1c would give.


2x odd-night is such a weird restriction set. Like, does Savant expect the game to reach night 5? I don’t see a noobwolf claiming anything without scummate approval, though.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/9/2026 at 11:09 PM (post #267)
That is imo an objectively scum sided mechanic. Which is not a bad thing. Just one I question with the claims given.

Normally, the punishment is that the day ends without a lynch, which obviously defaults to a scum victory if town keeps failing to pick someone before the deadline.

Thoth

You said your character makes your role obvious. Only one role comes to mind as fitting DJT. I don't want to say it in case it's right, but it's not a perfect match.

Thoth
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/9/2026 at 10:55 PM (post #254)
Who do you think is lying between WF and magic, and why?

Staying inside ain't an adventure lol


Anyway, at this juncture, Mag1c is my choice of scum, but I am only on page 5 reading up atm

Thoth

I strongly disagree with Helz in #77 that the 7-day timeline is scum-sided. All games on here have a timeline. This one is just set up in a way that requires us to figure out how to budget our time.