Thoth

I just noticed something about my role PM which makes me think that one of the three main girls is more likely to be the fake-claim than either of the other two.

For the sake of identifying the fake-claim if it's a main character, it might be worth having the other two main characters claim that they are a main character, but not which one. I won't push for it yet.

Anyone else is free to answer that question, but it's mainly for Pie.

Before I go to sleep, I'll leave a Yes/No question for Pie: Do you think I have breadcrumbed a role (not character) at any time in this game?

I was told that magic does not give a "you were roleblocked" message.

This does not contradict the answer he gave me. He told me that if your actions fails for any reason, you are told that your action failed, but not the reason why, which could be that you were roleblocked.

We need spoiler tags on here.

What is the justification for Jinu being doomed? That he turned from a human into a demon? Seems loose, if you ask me, which makes me think that the remaining characters might have roles that don't seem to fit them.

Does this mean the other scum is probably Gwi-Ma?

I can confirm that Magic told me, if a player's action fails for any reason, they would be told that their action failed, and nothing else. I hate to bother him with redundant questions, but I have to confirm that y'all are not lying about what he said.

For reasons I don't want to get into yet, the DP1 no-lynch might be less bad than it seems.

Scratch this out. I forgot that Rex died.

I think scum is an experienced player who either knows the theme or did research in the theme based on the night kill. My guess is it’s our or Whiteflame atm

The 'research' I did to figure out who and what Kohai claimed was like 15 seconds on Wikipedia, which, oddly enough, made me more confident in my conclusion since that's probably about as much research as Magic did.

Not to suggest you would know who scum is/are if you are town, but naming three out of four people as sus strikes me as scummily non-committal, especially because, in some sense, those are three out of three people since Vader is silenced.

I agree that I think whiteflame is town, although, on second thought, that's entirely a behavioral read, and he's been reading so townie to me that I forgot that I haven't seen him be mechanically cleared.

For reasons I don't want to get into yet, the DP1 no-lynch might be less bad than it seems.

I noticed that the letters in our are next to Pie on my keyboard. I think that's what you meant to type.

Aside from my gut feeling, I have mild but non-negligible heuristic evidence against Pie that I will get into when the time is right, probably later this day phase.

will say that I will probably be a lil skeptical of whoever ends up claiming roleblocked

I will also be skeptical because I think that Rex probably roleblocked Kohai, but he could have roleblocked someone else due to WIFOM or a redirect. Any other target would have been blind finger-crossing unless scum were given more information about the setup than we have, which is a little bit plausible given how, as Pie pointed out, scum could have been given strong abilities to counterbalance the weakness of Doomed.

It means that the other scum has good abilities and serviceability (aka the fake claim will be amazing ie one of the three main girls). I doubt there’s 2 scum and 1 TP. It’s most likely 2 scum at this stage. 4-3 LYLO DP1 is just garbage game design and again goes against Mharman’s principles.

I think you meant most likely 1 scum, especially since two posts down you said it's probably 4-1. I agree that making one scum strong to counterbalance the weak scum makes sense, but one scum being much stronger than the other is hardly ideal game design either. I doubt that we started 4-3 or that there were 2 starting scum with a potential conversion, so 4-1 is likely, but 3-1-1 is also plausible.

I’ll full claim if you get 3 people to ask for it

Like Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen, I am number one.

Still want Thoth’s full claim here. I think it’s probably 4-1 right now, so we have 2 lynches.

It's important that I don't claim. What do you think I am?

I need some help on my physics homework! It says that light is made of EM waves. What does EM stand for?

I almost wonder if Vader silenced himself for towncred, assuming that the silencer is scum or TP.

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Because, on second thought, if it is two scum and a TP and Pie is town, they could lynch him.

When I asked yesterday if we thought Magic was above hidden role modifiers, I was wondering if Healer Han's Doctor ability might not work as stated since he is a canonical quack.

Doomed is such a painful modifier that I almost wonder if it could be four town, two scum, and a third-party.

VTL Pie

My gut feeling yesterday was Pie and Rex. Rex turned out to be right, so it might just be Pie.

Kohai was who and what I thought he was. I may bear some blame for outing this.

Re: Why I was not around near end-of-day yesterday. As Lunatic can testify since we were scummates in Suikoden, I tend to be up late into the night, the corollary of which is that I tend to be asleep late into the morning. On weekends, I rarely roll out of bed before noon Central time. I would have been more motivated to set an alarm if I had known that reaching the EoD deadline without a majority vote would result in a no-lynch. I implicitly assumed that whoever had the most votes would be lynched and there was some tiebreak system.

A thought just crossed my mind that I should probably better keep to myself, so I'll ask this instead: Do we think Magic is above including hidden abilities or role modifiers?

I was at the top of the mod queue before I said I was okay with Magic running his game next. I would still like to be at the top of the queue once his game is done, but I am absolutely not launching Culture with fewer than ten players, so I may run something else.

My soft is male.

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This is what makes me most suspicious of Thoth, not the supposedly TMI stuff others have pointed out - why breadcrumb an important character DP1 with no pressure? Seems more scum-motivated. Also find his oh-I-really-shouldn't-do-this way of outing Kohai as an apparently important character instead of just letting his soft stand unmolested. I think he might be 3P - solving the game genuinely but in a way which is indifferent to the anti-town implications of revealing information.

Speaking of which, there's information that I personally would like to know because it could confirm my suspicions about how the game is set up, but I'm not going to ask that it be shared because whatever gain I could get isn't worth informing scum. If Luna is town, something he said earlier might point in the direction I'm thinking of.

If that's not what you were getting at, I never claimed a role, just one of three characters.

Just strikes me as a lot for Mharman to not only have created this game with a theme he isn't invested in only to nix one of the three female leads and then choose to hand it over as a full fake claim complete with role for scum.

(Post #116) Hol' up. The OP just says that scum were given a fake claim. Where did Magic say anything about a role?

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VTL whiteflame

Gut scum read is Thoth. Some of his posts just read as TMI to me. Especially the one about 2 scum but they can’t communicate

(Post #91) Somehow, I get this sinking feeling that I am going to be lynched if a flip proves this hunch correct.

Thoth I have better reason to townread, though I'll keep that reason to myself for now.

(Post #93) Not the reason you mentioned earlier, i.e., my softclaim?