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Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:51 PM (post #58)
Popular is one of those roles that mods frequently use for both teams, you can claim that dp1 and still receive a bit of suspivion for it. Also as you now know, it loses all utility in MYLO as that would be OP. So in general, it's considered an SOP claim.
Hated, yes. Popular, eh.
I planned to claim this DP, but in my defense it did not occur to me in a bazillion years that there was another lethal role in the game, that there would be two NK's last night, and we could be at MYLO today.
Okay but if I wasn't a vig, and we got a mislynch instead, we would have been in the exact same spot numbers wise, so this is either an oversight, or a lie.
Oh yeah. I should've claimed last DP then. Oh well. I'm not good at keeping track of the numbers. With no confirmable role, I'm sure my head's on the block. I'm not even mad, my fault for trying to be too clever about the Popular thing and losing track of the math.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:48 PM (post #57)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 6:41 PM (post #55)
I did ask Mag1c who he protected. I freely admit that my analysis here is 100% built on the premise that you can't be town because there cannot be two identical town Vigs, so my suppositions must by necessity grow more specific as I struggle to explain the data through the lens of that premise.
If you're 3P, I definitely need to remove my vote, but I can't be sure you are. I wouldn't expect even a 3P to have Mikal's exact same role, to be frank. This would make a lot more sense if you simply are mafia and gravedug the role from Mikal.
So it sounds like the entirety of your vote on me is based on the hope that you think the mod made any sense of balance here. But I don't even agree that a scum vig with a town vig is balanced. Two vigges in a ten player game is just wild no matter how you spin it, with only one doctor to boot.
Yes, 100%, I'm hoping against hope Kohai gave scum like a Graverobber and a JOAT and that this game is not terribly balanced. I must have faith that I will not facepalm at endgame!
Coming innnn on a winggg and a prayerrrrr~
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:38 PM (post #54)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 6:33 PM (post #50)
Well fuck my life. I'm Town Popular. If we're in MYLO, I'm not confirmable and that's gg lol.
If there's any realm of possibilty that you are town, I am not gonna beat you up for this, but I would like to know the thought process behind waiting until now to claim this at least lol. I think you understand now how with holding this claim til mylo was... not a good play.
I've never seen anyone actually do anything with Popular except role confirm themselves. I wanted to see if I could use it to farm actionable data, maybe see who tried to start a wagon on me, but no opportunity arose. I planned to claim this DP, but in my defense it did not occur to me in a bazillion years that there was another lethal role in the game, that there would be two NK's last night, and we could be at MYLO today.
I did ask Mag1c who he protected. I freely admit that my analysis here is 100% built on the premise that you can't be town because there cannot be two identical town Vigs, so my suppositions must by necessity grow more specific as I struggle to explain the data through the lens of that premise.
If you're 3P, I definitely need to remove my vote, but I can't be sure you are. I wouldn't expect even a 3P to have Mikal's exact same role, to be frank. This would make a lot more sense if you simply are mafia and gravedug the role from Mikal.
Well fuck my life. I'm Town Popular. If we're in MYLO, I'm not confirmable and that's gg lol.
Ah fuck, are we in MYLO? Lemme check.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:02 PM (post #41)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 5:47 PM (post #34)
Would also explain the no Mag1c kill. If they've got two shots per night the Doc isn't as much of a threat, and the priority becomes to remove Pie from the conversation DP3, and to get Rex out of the way, cuz he was looking less and less likely to be a mislynch target.
Just saying if magic protected a kill, I would have been unable to confirm myself. If I was actually scum I would be killing magic all day.
I'm sure scum have a Strongman or some such and that y'all would use it for Rex's kill to make sure it went through so you could sell this story, and since Mag1c had Pie in his POE there were low odds he would doc him. There's not a strong case to be made for you sussing Mag1c, so he's not a viable target. Better to lay the groundwork for a Rex kill, bump him off, try to sell it DP3, then bump Mag1c off NP3.
Unless you're 3P.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:01 PM (post #40)
I told you many times I thought he was baiting. Didn't think he was actually a vig, why would I counter claim an obviously bs claim? Imagine my surprise when he was actually the same role as me.
Yeah I had a blond moment there.
Nah, i'm gonna need you to actually explain this one to me. Multiple people suspected rex. He was my top scum read next to banana.. Peep my reads kast day phase.
I'm judging your judgment through the lens of my judgment, judgmentally. Lol. Or to put it in other words, Rex was so clearly town to me based on his behavior that I struggle to see town!Lunatic genuinely sussing him. I was baffled that Pie VTL'd him too. At least whiteflame only VTL'd him because he was a claim void.
How tf am I even supposed to respond to this lol. I am sorry kohai is a shit mod I guess, but I did tell you multiple times this was the case.
I won't believe even Kohai would put two of the same role into a game unless they were on either side of an alignment divide.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/8/2026 at 7:47 PM (post #35)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 6:37 PM (post #20)
Was your power a 1x? Did you target someone last night?
I won't say how many shots I have, but I tried to target Rex, figuring I could either confirm his claim this DP or have a more solid reason to sus him. I didn't get a result.
What message did you get, exactly?
Would also explain the no Mag1c kill. If they've got two shots per night the Doc isn't as much of a threat, and the priority becomes to remove Pie from the conversation DP3, and to get Rex out of the way, cuz he was looking less and less likely to be a mislynch target.
Could be mafia got an ability that lets them rob the dead and killed Mikal to harvest his Vig.
I'm supposed to believe you saw Mikal claim Vig and did not counterclaim? That you chose to target Rex, who screamed town? That town got two identical killing roles? Nah. You're either 3P or mafia.
Lol I absolutely do not believe Kohai puts two Cycle 2+ unlimited Vigs in one game, and if he did, I'm never playing his games again.
VTL: Lunatic
Just can't understand not NKing the Doc. Would understand it if Mag1c was scum, but no one fake claims Doc, and there's no other claimed protective role on the board -- plus Mag1c is the one who suggested the VTNL last DP, and if he hadn't we could be at MYLO right now.
No new hope message? D:
Was your power a 1x? Did you target someone last night?
Who did you doctor
Let's hear it
Fuck me. Was wrong about Thoth, wrong about Pie, two kills in one night, Mag1c is somehow alive, and they've passed over viable mislynch targets twice now.
Well then.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/7/2026 at 3:27 PM (post #339)
I don’t think I jumped on him “quick.” I was on the Mago = scum train long before. But walk me through this idea. WF is a scum who is a Rolecop or has a Rolecop ability. He investigated Luna and saw he was Redirector/BP and then concocted a fake specific claim like comedian with the third role being EXACTLY what Mikal had? That makes absolutely zero sense to me.
The "Rex's arguments against whiteflame seem weak, VTL Rex" just seemed contrived to me and the work of busy-with-work scum!Pie.
One of the roles being Mikal's was part of what seemed sus to me. Like scum who weren't sure what to pad out the rest of the list with, or who wanted to add a patina of legitimacy to the list by including a role town knows exists in the game. And if Kohai is supplementing the list with the roles of players whiteflame didn't even target, that seems like a big advantage he's handing whiteflame.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/7/2026 at 3:27 PM (post #339)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/7/2026 at 2:22 PM (post #327)
Couple things. I've kind of let Mikal's death fall by the wayside of my analyses -- I still think scum only NKs him if they think he's very likely to shoot one of theirs. I will note that whiteflame was in both of Mikal's stated POEs.
I townread Rex and Banana, and Mag1c of course, who is about to die a soldier's death. *salute* Rex is right, we shouldn't have let Pie lead a claim wagon on him. Alas, Pie is a good wagonrouser.
I mean it got more activity out of him. That slot of was unreadable, and now is likely town.
I feel like Pie jumped on Rex really quick today for just vibe FOSing whiteflame. He also handwaved the suspicions against whiteflame's role.
I don’t think I jumped on him “quick.” I was on the Mago = scum train long before. But walk me through this idea. WF is a scum who is a Rolecop or has a Rolecop ability. He investigated Luna and saw he was Redirector/BP and then concocted a fake specific claim like comedian with the third role being EXACTLY what Mikal had? That makes absolutely zero sense to me.
Well shit. I'll answer this tomorrow.
VTL: No Lynch
“Grab the stick?” Donut shrieked. “What do you mean, grab the stick! Thumbs, Carl! Thumbs!”
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 7/7/2026 at 3:23 PM (post #331)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/7/2026 at 3:23 PM (post #330)
Everyone who is saying WF is scum, he’s our only investigative role. I don’t see much conversation about that. Not to mention that Luna townreads WFs.
wait where did Whiteflame claim investigative? I missed that
Claim is Comedian. He targets a player and receives a "joke" consisting of three roles, one of which is accurate.
Couple things. I've kind of let Mikal's death fall by the wayside of my analyses -- I still think scum only NKs him if they think he's very likely to shoot one of theirs. I will note that whiteflame was in both of Mikal's stated POEs.
I townread Rex and Banana, and Mag1c of course, who is about to die a soldier's death. *salute* Rex is right, we shouldn't have let Pie lead a claim wagon on him. Alas, Pie is a good wagonrouser.
I feel like Pie jumped on Rex really quick today for just vibe FOSing whiteflame. He also handwaved the suspicions against whiteflame's role.