Wryly


Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/18/2026 at 11:13 PM (post #49)

If you can character claim that'll help us go somewhere


Yeah and it could also help scum come up with safe fake claims lol. I'm weighing it. We don't know what scum were given in the way of fake claims; could be they weren't given character claims, in which case the best thing to do is not give away which characters in the Candaceverse are already taken until we have more data and know who to press for a claim. We almost never do that though. Seems like there's always an unnecessary claim before DP2.


If it looks like I'll be too busy to contribute at all tomorrow how bout I just character claim then.

Wryly


Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/18/2026 at 10:48 PM (post #45)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/18/2026 at 6:10 PM (post #36)
Wow this DP is moving slow. This really isn't good news for someone who only had today free.

If you’re going to be inactive, then just full claim, so we don’t go into tomorrow blind


I'm not full claiming, but I'm willing to character claim if this is a concern. I won't be completely afk tomorrow but I probably will be Monday.

Wryly


Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/18/2026 at 10:06 PM (post #42)
No clue wtf is going on between wlyed / wryly.


wylted seems to get trigger-happy and vote me at least once per game for some reason. Or it was a reaction test. If it wasn't painfully clear, I was just horsing around and leaned into the joke because he wouldn't let it go.

Wryly

Townpiling Pie for the Hated SOP for now, though I don't know what the track record is of scum claiming Hated to discourage wagons. I'm gonna assume if it's a common scum play he wouldn't do it.

Wryly


Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/18/2026 at 4:40 PM (post #28)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/18/2026 at 3:37 PM (post #23)
You caught me. Here's my copied and pasted role PM.

You are Candace Owens' left tit. In a fit of madness and Chardonnay one night, you stood in front of a mirror as flashes of lightning back-lit your empty apartment, and drew AOC's face over your left breast with a permanent marker. AOC's laughing open mouth encompassed your entire areola.

By day, you only hear AOC's muffled taunts and whispers through your bra and blouse, undermining your talking points mid-debate and giving a constant stream of leftist propaganda that steadily erodes your sanity. By night, you stand shirtless in front of your bathroom mirror and have full-blown schizophrenic screaming arguments with Titty AOC. Secretly you yearn to know if the real AOC has a Candace Owens drawn on her right titty -- if you live in her head rent-free as she does in yours -- but deep down you know there's only a perfect pair of B-cup Latina breasts under there. Therefore, you are the Vulnerable Double Voter! By day you may double vote because you are motivated to raise your voice to speak over AOC's menacing whispers in your bra, but if anyone visits you at night and catches you arguing shirtless with your own titty in the mirror, you will have a nervous breakdown and lose your double voting powers. You win with -- well, you really win once you're put on some industrial-grade antipsychotics.

Wait WTF???


Yeah, I should be modkilled soon.

Wryly

You caught me. Here's my copied and pasted role PM.


You are Candace Owens' left tit. In a fit of madness and Chardonnay one night, you stood in front of a mirror as flashes of lightning back-lit your empty apartment, and drew AOC's face over your left breast with a permanent marker. AOC's laughing open mouth encompassed your entire areola.


By day, you only hear AOC's muffled taunts and whispers through your bra and blouse, undermining your talking points mid-debate and giving a constant stream of leftist propaganda that steadily erodes your sanity. By night, you stand shirtless in front of your bathroom mirror and have full-blown schizophrenic screaming arguments with Titty AOC. Secretly you yearn to know if the real AOC has a Candace Owens drawn on her right titty -- if you live in her head rent-free as she does in yours -- but deep down you know there's only a perfect pair of B-cup Latina breasts under there. Therefore, you are the Vulnerable Double Voter! By day you may double vote because you are motivated to raise your voice to speak over AOC's menacing whispers in your bra, but if anyone visits you at night and catches you arguing shirtless with your own titty in the mirror, you will have a nervous breakdown and lose your double voting powers. You win with -- well, you really win once you're put on some industrial-grade antipsychotics.

Wryly


Originally Posted by wylted on 7/18/2026 at 3:08 PM (post #18)
Fuck it, gonna go ahead and out it.


Wryly is scum. I am CCing her right now. I am Candice Owens


jesus fucking christ


do i really have to clarify that I'm not a titty with AOC's face drawn on it, wylted

Wryly

I supported the draw when I believed you that your role was unstoppable. It's unusual, but so is two Vigs. Now? Yeah that was definitely MYLO by either definition up for debate here, not that it doesn't pain me to say so.

Wryly

Very understandable. Sorry I held onto that Popular so long and brought this headache on you lol. Hopefully the bad taste this has left fades quickly for you.

Wryly

I definitely sympathize with Lunatic and whiteflame here, but I don't get the sense we've made real progress reaching an agreed-upon definition of MYLO. Is this something we're going to leave it for individual moderators to define?

Wryly


Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/9/2026 at 12:22 AM (post #11)
I always thought of MYLO as strictly numerical, i.e., 1-3 is MYLO even if there is no way for scum to win overnight after a mislynch, because defining it in terms of possible outcomes could give too much insight into the setup. I think how MYLO and LYLO are defined is worthy of more discussion, and that hosts should specify exactly what they mean by MYLO/LYLO.


I think it pretty much only says "there are mechanics in play you're not fully aware of." That's not terribly revealing.

Wryly

Kind of misleading to call it "mislynch and lose" if town might not have mislynched and lost. If we're going to define it by numbers alone, why not rename it to better reflect that definition?


Confused by the Mikal town MVP.

Wryly


Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/9/2026 at 12:01 AM (post #147)

I think I'm going to declare this a tie. There's a strong case to be made for both sides. Endgame will be up in a minute.


This is fair of you, but it kind of leaves me in the lurch on what the official definition of MYLO is on DC.

Wryly


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 11:41 PM (post #131)

Well I didn’t lie about my role, it actually was a night 2 activated vig. That’s why I didn’t believe Mikal was one, we killed him thinking he was trying to intimidate scum away from another power role, so we called the bluff. Was surprised that he was actually a second vig. Whiteflame had already had Mrs. Maisel lined up as a fake and I told him about the comedian role from supas South Park game though and thought it would be perfect for a gambit. Goal was to potentially use it to bus me and confirm him, since my flip would be a np2 vig, as well as bait out the protective role since bp was one of the claims on it. And in the best scenario if we both loved id be able to prove my role tonight.


Wow. I was more willing to believe you stole the ability than that there were two identical roles even on either side of the alignment divide.


Bussy strategies are so hard to sus out. What with this one and the one with wylted, I'mma have to mark you down as a Serial Bus Strategist, mister.

Wryly


Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/8/2026 at 11:37 PM (post #124)

Agreed with Luna. Even if you're telling the truth, it's still MYLO and it just becomes a probability game.


I didn't realize it could still be MYLO if there's even a chance town can make it to the next day phase.

Wryly

I meant that even though this example happened in the context of MYLO it proves the role has applications beyond the context of MYLO.


You guys are really gonna need to tell me how you came up with this Comedian/Secondary Vig plan.

Wryly


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 11:30 PM (post #115)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 9:28 PM (post #114)
So Popular can be better utilized beyond mere role confirmation. Good to know. I considered it a weak role.
I mean this was lylo. lol if kohai wants to say it wasn’t mylo he’s wrong but it’s his game so he can hand town the win if he wants I guess


I just meant that it shows Popular can be used to lure scum to a false wagon in general.

Wryly

So Popular can be better utilized beyond mere role confirmation. Good to know. I considered it a weak role.

Wryly


Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/8/2026 at 11:05 PM (post #90)
ATTENTION

Wryly has met the lynch thresh hold but was not lynched. Day continues.


Oh nice. It wasn't MYLO.

Wryly
I mean you are seeing the reason it is SOP in real time, not even sure how that's an "eh"


As long as you're not an unfocused idiot and lose track of the approach of MYLO, it's an "eh."


A graverobber, assuming this is a thing, wouldn't it just give me an unlimited use of vig, thus still presenting a balance issue? Or a JOAT with an extra night kill? No matter how you spin this, we have a balance issue at play, regardless of what you think my affiliation is, the balance is 100% confirmably bad, me being scum town or 3p doesn't change that fact.


When it's a mafia-aligned role it is sometimes called Mugger, and it was used in Barry mafia, as an example.


What's a worse balance issue? 1) Giving two town players unlimited Vigs, or 2) giving one town player a Vig and one mafia player a Graverobber/Scavenger/Mugger, with a 1 in 8 chance they will target the Vig with it? I argue the first.