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ILikePie5 wrote:

Thoth wrote:

ILikePie5 wrote:

how so?

I take it you mean, "how is that interesting?" Just something to keep on the back burner for now. If you mean, "how do I know that", it's because statements #1 and #3 from the OP can't both be true.

what does third party have to do with a theme split. you can have a theme split and a tp in the game. everyone does it. so where is this coming from?

Thoth seems to be assuming that third parties kind of require there to be a theme split because they need to have a flavor that doesn't fall into either category of the split, e.g. in Madoka Magicka mafia scum was the demon cat and town were magic girls, so as third party I was neither; I was a witch.

But I suppose you can eschew a theme split and just declare a certain person to be TP. Their flavor would just be irrelevant to their alignment.

Riiiiiiight so.

Very tempted to townread the people who have softed early, since that's dicier for scum to do when they've been given no fake claims. It is so hard not to imitate the stereotype I was given right now, but scum already know there's a feminist, maybe a Jew or a Catholic, maybe Asians. I'll hold off on adding to that list for them for now.

I wonder if Lunatic gave them the full list of all the other game mechanics before letting them craft their own fake mechanic, or they had to think up one blind?

#3 seems the likeliest culprit to me, but if I'm right, no one who softed early gets any town points. In fact, I might have to put them on the sus list. It's a good plan: make up a "there's no theme split" mechanic, so now you can straight claim, so now you can soft early to farm town cred. It's not like Pie to soft early anyway, and whiteflame handwaved #3 being the likely culprit with a vague "that would only get them so far". I'll need to think more about this.

Hi all, I'm super busy today and will be on later tonight

I will be joining this game but FYI I have forgotten how to play, Lunatic tells me it has something to do with leaning into our worst human impulses to either deceive or crucify our fellow man in an exercise of covert Machiavellianism and overt McCarthyism? Idk sounds vaguely familiar ig

You are correct. But if he isn't healed and doesn't die, the lie is exposed.

Guess I should've put poison in quotation marks. But yeah, that.

I'm genuinely surprised Mikal gave you Sung Jin-Ah as a fake claim, I really thought you made that up due to claim scarcity. I wouldn't expect him to give you a character who was not a hunter in the show, it kind of puts you at a thematic disadvantage.

I have a harder time taking risks like that. What would you have done if you had lived to the point when it became clear Jinwoo was not in your POE? What would Mag1c have done if no one healed his poison?

I'm not even talking about this game specifically. In the case of Mikal's game you were dealt a bad card. Your character was never given goggles in the show. If you had claimed the Protective Armor thing that might've helped because the character was at least given armor in the show, but apparently the armor was a running joke even in the show, so yeah, you were given a bad hand. Plus the whole "request the item and then get it the next night" thing -- blah. Seen in the light of what everyone thought was an information leak, it was damning, and saying you'd rather be dead than transparent just cinched it for everyone.

But what are you going to do if suspicion falls on you and you're the Lie Detector or the Cop or an Inventor? Are you going to keep refusing to claim? Because if a mislynch is imminent, it's better for town to out a role than lose a role.

But I disagree that we get nothing out of hearing your full claim before we lynch, and others will continue to disagree as well. You're a dope player and I don't want to see you keep getting killed lol.

Yeah I worry this is going to get you mislynched again and again in future games, H. This site likes to hear claims so they can analyze the plausibility of that role existing in the context of the other roles on the table.

For my part I will definitely take further role reticence from you with a grain of town salt.

Have to agree with you about the guilds-affecting-results thing. Felt like a Cop being inhibited by guild recruitment was punishment enough, though I get that Mikal tried to balance out that mechanic with lots of investigatives. Seems like it was designed to get a townie killed.

Some other things:

Kohai is working on a feature that will prevent necroposting, so that should sort your concern there. Thoth's dead posts were always harmless though.

On this site you only find out order of operations in-game after pestering the moderator furiously lol.

We should definitely work on calling people by their current usernames as a courtesy to newcomers.

so ya i didnt even carry out the kill that night magic did lol. i used a vanillizer on supa to remove his doc, but pies jailkeep over-rode it for some reason, so the vader protection went through preventing the kill.

its why it was annoying to defend myself against that logic lol it was actually a pie kill! either way i was probly doomed because there was nothing to really confirm me and no one recruited me so yea i wasnt gonna live long either way

Oh wow lol. Definitely didn't consider something like that.

Few questions, if you would.

Why claim to be unrecruitable?

Were you given Jinwoo's sister as a fake claim?

Why the fake Jinwoo POE?

Why put the people in it that you did? Alyssa, Rex, Helz?

We never had a rat in the guild 🥲

Heh. Mestari did catch the scumslip that demolished half of the scum team, but not many seemed to notice that Pie caught it as well in #611 of DP1. When he's catching up he responds to posts in the order he reads them, so odds are he hadn't yet seen that Mestari had already caught it, either.

We also caught Banana because of Pie's jailkeep, and Pie turtling on the last NP would probably have caught Mag1c as well.

I definitely give Mestari credit for the catch, but Pie was pretty instrumental in the win.

Casey was actually the first person I told Mikal to investigate NP1. Then I decided I was being dumb for investigating someone without a solid reason other than "this seems like someone who won't be lawyered up and who I'll want a result on eventually." I psych myself out of good decisions frequently. But yeah, I won't psych myself out of that one again.

Yeah, I can't blame you for that. Ironically, though, it's what got me back into the game

Yeah I didn't start townreading you until you were about to die. It sucked lol.

Had you heard of Mestari before or was your comment just based on observation of him this game?

Nah I think that justification was pretty bad.

@Shining My bad for thinking you came up with that.

So about Shining's role...

I feel bad, I was definitely gonna lynch you. I was actually townreading you through most of the game until you voted awesome. I couldn't figure how a t!Kohai wouldn't be persuaded by my strengthened inno result on Rex.

Would've really liked to be a fly on the wall in scumchat after that slip.

I targeted Mes last NP and got an inno, so that wouldn't have worked. You got nothing but curveballs this game.

You did a fantastic job appearing townie. Doubted myself up until the moment I saw your flip.

Out of curiosity, were you really miffed that Helz was getting a raw deal or was that an act?

Well played. You would've been my lynch of last priority in the remaining three. I think the only thing that stuck out to me was the name of your ability, but behaviorally you'd been solid enough that I thought I was making something out of nothing.

What was it?

So there was no 3P?

I assume he meant Alyssa instead of whiteflame lol

Castin fo you agree

I agree.

Absolutely. Let's Harry-and-Cedric-Diggory-at-the-Triwizard-Cup this motherfucker. Without all the death afterward.

Wow, excellent shot. What made you decide to target him?