Lmao. You're kidding. You're not telling me Pie jailkept you?
Lmao. You're kidding. You're not telling me Pie jailkept you?
any results?
awesome didn't strengthen me last NP and it looks like Banana wasn't the Lawyer, so my result is fairly meaningless. I took a shot anyway just in case she did flip Lawyer, but alas.
It doesn't matter anyway. Pie's jailkeep will be our indictment.
It says False.
I misunderstood #401 then. Thought "it fails when targeting other guilds" means he gets an action failed message.
This is good news actually. You could have been redirected then. Makes me more confident in awesome/Rex.
Also, Banana/Kohai makes sense for for a team with Thoth/Alyssa. It explains the shitty claims and everything. Explains Kohai’s immediate claim, which prob took one of the fake roles.
If Banana flips scum and Kohai flips town, I would take a hard look at Mestari.
Agreed.
^ ?
Sucks that town wasted a second action because of undisclosed guild mechanics
Why does Mag1c's power say "your action failed" if aimed at the other guild anyway? Shouldn't it just always return false results?
Waive your Strengthener. Scum could redirect it to themselves and guarantee success on their action/NK
Understood
Hopefully I'll wake up from my nap with the thread still open
It does if Kohai lawyered up or is town and hadn't joined a guild yet
Unfortunately this means Pie was not redirected, and I could have been.
I need to think about this.
Did you target awesome because you believed that he had turned down our invite, or did you just not know it fails when targeting other guilds yet?
Do you still get a true result if someone claims one (true) part of their role, but omits other abilities they have?
Did you target Kohai's character or his role
What did he do
Ya this is my one concern right now
What happens if awesome Strengthens me and your Jailkeeper is redirected onto me? My Cop would still go through, correct?
the clears are me pie wryly rexfav if so, right? anyone else? we can have wryly investigate someone else and pie jailkeep a different person. then it might just... be solved
If we're right about Banana and Pie's right about her scummate, yep.
I guess the way I'm thinking of it is that it would be odd to limit the Redirection to town players within the same Guild, though in part it's just a bit of WIFOM. Can't help but think scum would have preferred to manipulate your role over his, though maybe that's just how I'd think about it.
Say the scum team is Banana and Kohai. They have a discussion about which of them Pie is gonna jailkeep this time, but it's a total tossup, could be either. So they can't just send the one less likely to be jailkept to do the NK and use their Redirector on me. They're forced to use it on Pie.
Why they didn't just redirect Pie onto me is another question. Probably guessed awesome was actually in the guild.
Hope you're feeling a little bit better buddy.
Yep, nothing baffling here.
Definitely a regret post lol.
Redirecting the JK just seems odd generally, though I can understand pushing it to an unknown role vs. an outed one.
Odd in what way? Seems like a good way to divert a threat and hobble an enemy in one stroke.
i keep forgetting about the third party thing
Remember when Thoth said "there may be third parties" in his game but there actually were none, he just wanted us to know that him saying the same thing in future games didn't guarantee a 3P
There's the case that only one is mafia if either you or awesome got redirected.
Already discussed. Mag1c was roleblocked last night. The going theory is Pie got redirected when he tried to jailkeep Banana again. If that's true, neither awesome or me could have been redirected.
See #335.
Do you agree that mechanically, awesome and Rex are either mutually innocent or mutually guilty?
How exactly does a town Banana expose Rex or Mag1c?
If Rex is lying then he's scum and awesome's Strengthener should've shown me a guilty result.
Again, either they're both innocent or the team is precisely awesome/Rex. So if you think the team is awesome/Rex why are you exploring other pairings?
You don't think we received some confirmation in the innocent result on Rex?
If awesome didn't strengthen me, I should've gotten a guilty result on Rex.
It's pizza and movie time for moi
Thx, check your notifications for my last question
Would prefer we not hammer until I can question Kohai more
Can someone compile a list of all the dead townies and their final reads
Lunatic: DP2 #268, DP2 #325, DP2 #470, DP2 #517
Helz: DP3 #1002, DP3 #1083, DP3 #1384
Shining: DP4 #232, DP4 #410, DP4 #681, DP4 #683, DP4 #771, DP4 #781, DP4 #1028, DP4 #1054, DP4 #1058
Casey: DP4 #698, DP4 #720, DP4 #763, DP4 #789, DP4 #1027, DP4 #1041
🫂 I know that feelz. No rush. I don't think we're gonna lynch tonight so you're pretty safe waiting until tomorrow as well.
Definitely seems like they redirected Pie to get an NK off OR to use Banana's role. If Banana is town you aren't going to kill her, she's a golden mislynch target. Why not let Pie jail her in a town banana world? Also might indicate that the other scum is in Pie's POE if they were that worried about the jailer. If you have a redirector and Banana is town it makes much more sense to use it on the cop, especially because they did not know we had a strengthener. It only makes sense to use it on Pie if Banana is scum and especially if her scummate is in his POE. The good play is to lawyer Banana (or have her self-lawyer) and have the other scum lawyer/redirect pie off her and onto the town player who is a wild card. That's basically what happened. Making me think it is Kohai/Banana.
Agree. Only reason to redirect Pie in a t!Banana world is if you're afraid he's gonna jailkeep someone other than Banana this time -- i.e., you're Kohai, you're scum, and you're afraid Pie is gonna jailkeep you this time.
If awesome is ascetic scum, do you think there is Kohai ascetic town as well?I don't. And if they are scum together, would Kohai claim ascetic instead of letting Awesome do it? Don't see any reason to do that.
Yeah, was thinking the same thing. There's a possibility Kohai is a town Ascetic and awesome used a scum Commuter or something, but we're really getting into the weeds there.