I'll be at the hospital again tomorrow, might not be able to post much.
I'll be at the hospital again tomorrow, might not be able to post much.
Originally Posted by Banana on 7/28/2026 at 10:42 AM (post #25)
I've completely let theme analysis fall by the wayside here, but it looks like Thoth is correct and our characters have beef with Candace. The question then is if the theme split is as simple as Candace vs the world, if wylted was dumb enough to just straight claim Candace as scum, and what character his scum partner would've been given.
can u explain exactly how u came to the conclusion u did about the theme split?
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/7o/candace-owens-cinematic-universe-dp2?comment_number=176
Thoth pointed it out earlier in the DP
I watched Pie and I saw nothing, so I'm fucked. I really don't need the stress of LYLO in my life rn lol. I was sure Banana would strengthen me, so now I have to weigh the wifom of whether she made an honest mistake or not. Neither of you hammered wylted DP2, neither of you are even role confirmed, Pie sussed you both at the end, and I have no way to mechanically confirm myself to whichever of you is town.
If Banana is town I feel like I should've seen Thoth visit Pie, because he would've assumed she would Strengthen me and there's no way for a single scum to really do anything about that, as far as I can think -- if he blocks or redirects Banana's Strengthener, I still see him visit Pie for the NK; if he blocks or redirects me, it doesn't work because Banana strengthened me. What am I missing here mechanically? If I saw nothing then they had a Ninja left, I assume. A Ninja would've been undetectable to both Pie and myself, so they could've just killed Banana and not had to worry about a Strengthener messing anything up. Could be they just didn't want Pie's mech wit in LYLO. Or they saw me townreading Pie last DP and couldn't afford to have him in the final three.
I'm turning in. Don't see any reason to prolong the day phase.
VTL: wylted
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/26/2026 at 11:43 PM (post #61)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/26/2026 at 10:25 PM (post #56)
Are you a Tracker or is wylted blowing smoke up our ass. What did you do NP1 and 2. If wylted is scum then they already know, so no point keeping it close to the vest.
I have no idea what he’s talking about. He’s 100% scum
Can't even be sure he has a Rolecop then. Well, we'll find out.
Greetings and salutations, wayward participant. Wilt thou share thy night actions.
Why do you suck
There was a kill, so I take it your plan failed. What did you try to do?
I need to hear from Thoth.
Are you a Tracker or is wylted blowing smoke up our ass. What did you do NP1 and 2. If wylted is scum then they already know, so no point keeping it close to the vest.
Arrrhhggggg
I am but I'm exhausted. This poor game has been like the geriatric olympics. I'll be on later tonight.
Is this why you @'d me last DP asking me to hammer when I'd already voted?
I want to know what Thoth did last NP, what Banana did, and if Pie is actually a Tracker and what he did if so.
Originally Posted by wylted on 7/25/2026 at 9:46 PM (post #21)
Wryly is not even coming up with reasons I am scum.
Do I have to? You're claiming a JOAT with a Vote Sensor you never used, a Tracker you say Pie actually has, and a 2x (lol) Rolecop with a flipped even night Cop. Not to mention how thematically anomalous your claim is.
It's clear you're not town, I'm just baffled by your play this game. It would make more sense if you were trying to get lynched. Just can't see Pie letting you off the leash this much as your scummate. This is more explainable with Thoth or Banana, who might be less active or less able to control you. Unless this was a bus, planned early on. But no, Banana or Thoth would've hammered.
Very interested to see your flip, I'll go from there.
I'm tired af. I'll catch up later. Let's get his lynch through this time plz.
Lmao.
Is Jester impossible in a 9p setup?
If wylted was innocent he'd be dead by now unless scumchat is hella inactive.
Almost tempted to switch to Thoth just for #180.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/24/2026 at 6:04 PM (post #184)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/24/2026 at 4:52 PM (post #181)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/24/2026 at 5:43 PM (post #180)
I am going to say it: My other role is potentially protective. So, if we VTNL here, there is a chance we go into tomorrow with 6 players and can VTNL again to have two more DPs after that. High risk and long game, but it could work.
Your first role was already protective, plus we had Vader's doc and Banana's roleblocker. You're saying you received two protectives?
Ye
But Vader was already an every night doc, Banana could stop a kill on evens, and you already claimed a role that could stop a kill at any time.
I feel like there's 70% chance wylted is scum here. His character claim sticks out, he's a JOAT with two other claimed dual ability roles, all his abilities are investigatives, which I've never seen with a JOAT, and his reasoning for why he didn't use his Sensor seems like bullshit. I don't really want to VTNL, I'd like to just make a decision.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/24/2026 at 5:43 PM (post #180)
I am going to say it: My other role is potentially protective. So, if we VTNL here, there is a chance we go into tomorrow with 6 players and can VTNL again to have two more DPs after that. High risk and long game, but it could work.
Your first role was already protective, plus we had Vader's doc and Banana's roleblocker. You're saying you received two protectives?
VTL: wylted
Lol oops
VTL: Wryly
I'm not gonna be available all evening so if we're gonna do any further discussing it kinda needs to be now dudes and dudette
tfw life's been skull fucking you all day and now you have to heave the railroad switch in your brain with all your might to get back onto the "think about mafia" track.
I've completely let theme analysis fall by the wayside here, but it looks like Thoth is correct and our characters have beef with Candace. The question then is if the theme split is as simple as Candace vs the world, if wylted was dumb enough to just straight claim Candace as scum, and what character his scum partner would've been given.
My top scum pairing has been Thoth/wylted so far, but looking back over the DP, it was Thoth who drew attention to how much Candace sticks out thematically, and the whole "I rolestopped you so you're lying" thing makes little sense for a Thoth/wylted pairing unless Thoth is bussing hard. In which case I guess the whole "a bus driver explains it" might be an escape hatch in case they might be able to pull wylted out of the fire? This pairing means the two of them came up with a JOAT and a quasi-JOAT as role claims, though, and that's baffling.
There's also the Rolestopper/Roleblocker congestion. It's not a counterclaim or anything, but it seems like too much. There's a world where it could be Mikal/wylted, but I just feel like Banana's odd/even night modifiers add some credibility to her role.
Then there's Lunatic. His justification really sucks, but the Blake Lively vanilla smelled bad too. Lying about his result and late claiming even night isn't a good look but it's still explainable from a town pov. I don't see a world where it's Lunatic/wylted, so if I'm gonna sus Lunatic I have to drop wylted entirely and look at Lunatic/Thoth or Lunatic/Banana or something, and I'm not prepared to drop wylted.
There's a good chance wylted is scum here and I'm ready to roll those dice. If Thoth still wants to VTNL out of an abundance of caution we can do that too, I'm just kind of ready to get this game over with. The only thing that makes me hesitate on wylted is just how ass his claim is, but sometimes ass is just ass.