I speculated there could be a Poisoner DP1!
Phew channeled Kohai for a second there, don't know what happened.
I speculated there could be a Poisoner DP1!
Phew channeled Kohai for a second there, don't know what happened.
So the case against Alyssa seems to break down like:
The implications of Thoth's scumslip about Mestari:
It's possible she told him in scumchat, but then she could also have told him to just say he learned it from Mikal in scumchat. Maybe it was a scumchat coordination issue -- she just didn't have time to advise him to go with a better story. Then she bussed him. It's also possible scum!Thoth really did just confuse Helz and Mestari. Either way, scum!Alyssa had to be furious. Then she goes and says "it's possible he just learned it from Mikal", which seems like a pretty transparent attempt at distancing. So I'm left with whether to believe she'd be that transparent, or whether to believe she's too experienced a player to come off that desperate.
Thoth putting Alyssa in a Jinwoo POE:
Unsure how to read this. If you're scum!Thoth, Alyssa is your partner, and you know you're about to be lynched, why finger one of your scummate as possible 3P, even if it does only work for one night phase until people see your flip?
Widely Admired claim:
She describes it as she takes one extra vote to lynch, but then it resets. If it takes one extra vote to lynch her, she should've been lynched at 10 votes. I'm kind of confused.
Inconsistency in recruitment claim:
So the case here was that this statement: -- "First ability is the one I said was confirmable. Second one was the thing I can do at nights that doesn't require recruitment" -- implies that her Rally the Hunters power doesn't require recruitment, but her Widely Admired does. This could have just been phrasing ambiguity, and I'm not attributing anything conclusive to it. As a Solo Leveling character, none of her abilities should require recruitment. I'll wait for her to clarify this.
Voting herself:
I mean, Mestari voted himself as well when a wagon started on him. Could just be pure frustration from her. Not sure how to read it. NAI for now.
So the lingering issues for me are the Thoth association and the weirdness of the Widely Admired claim.
"Luna puts up with a good deal of shit in mafia, and the fact that he keeps coming back and showing us how it's done makes him a legend."
I'm overthinking this, I'm spending too much time on the harmonics of fiction analogy, let it go, let it go
It was less Dumbledore, more Snape is what I should've said instead of the Weasleys fuck
He was so unusually aggro on Thoth though. Rarely have I seen whiteflame go for it like that. It was less Tuvok, more B'Elanna.
No one will get my Voyager references.
It was less Mr. Weasley, more Mrs. Weasley.
No, no. It was less Baelor, more Maekar.
Goddamn it I can't get this.
DP didn't end
Both whiteflame and Pie seem underactive tbh, but I'm willing to take it with a grain of salt considering the size of this game.
I question scum!Thoth putting any of his scummates in a fake POE.
I’ll say outside the confirmed town helz is by far and away my strongest TR
I feel like the Cowardly Lion when Dorothy said "I think I'll miss you most of all, Scarecrow"
First ability is the one I said was confirmable. Second one was the thing I can do at nights that doesn't require recruitment.
Stop playing DnD and explain this girl
Whoever is in scumchat with Thoth has played enough of Mikal's games to know Mikal doesn't reveal whether the lynch target was innocent or guilty until the next DP. Otherwise they would've known Thoth's twilight town ruse would be pointless.
Maybe it's common knowledge among veteran players, idk. I didn't realize Mikal had that policy until this game.
Has reset to note votes.
If Thoth were here he'd probably make some quip about this
Alright. I think I know the reason as to why there was not a night kill but want to confirm some mechanical stuff first
I'm townreading this btw.
DP1, Thoth referred to Mestari as a "fearkill target." This prompted an inquiry into how tf he knew this, since he's never played with Mestari before. Everyone immediately speculated he learned it in scumchat. Since Alyssa is one of the few people who knows Mestari well enough to tell Thoth that, she was sussed as well. Thoth was lynched DP1 and flipped scum, so Alyssa full claimed DP2 in #14.
If she's telling the truth, the vote count should reset.
Alyssa (9/9) - Kohai, Pie, Alyssa, Lunatic, Helz, Rex, Wylted, Wryly, Casey
VTL Alyssa
Wryly, Casey_Risk, Helz are interesting movements. @Wryly can you explain your vote on Shinning heere and why you waited until then to cast a vote
Shining VTL was a pressure vote because I agreed with your point that his Thoth reticence seemed odd. Didn't agree with the Mestari wagon, was baffled re: Alyssa and the Thoth lynch was gonna happen whether I voted or not, so I was content just grilling him.
Stop spamming her pfp at me, it's casting Glamour at me
Begone, temptress!
I would just like to note that whiteflame was unusually aggressive on Thoth and that looks nothing like his scum game. As scum he's balanced, analytical, and pretty immaculate.
Yesssss he was twilight fibbing!
I feel like we're stressing you out with all this heat and I'd just like to say -- for the record -- that "I'm Banana's Shift key. I'm a perma-Commuter" was peak comedy.
Yes let's not put him at L-1 and let Shining and Airmax off the hook. I don't even like him at L-2. What if some nefarious quickhammer lynches him and plays it off as an accident.
Again as I said these were extremely early pings and didn’t like the main wagons.
Understood.
I have to admit, you strike me as being more aggro than usual, and much stricter about theme adherence. Not a scumread, just a remark.
No, because I figured that Jinwoo, on top of being town, was probably the most powerful townie and just telling me who he was would be too much protection against a mislynch.
Hmm.
Normally when an informative is given a POE like that, it contains scum. If it's a town role, like an Emissary is informed of, it's normally just given -- "there is an Innocent Child, there is a Doctor", etc. No POE. Did it strike you as odd that you were given a POE for Jin-woo?