I am still mostly leaning towards lynching thoth. I want to wait for the inactives to post reads before we do. Anyways I'll be here keeping track of things in the mean time but I don't wanna spam post too much to make it harder for people like airmax to catch up. I'll spew most of my thoughts in the mason thread for now.
You're in a position to verify part of his claim by attempting to recruit him. Do you not deem it worth the effort? Why?
I like drunk Kohai
I agree it was completely and utterly retarded. I can’t play scum to save my own life. I am just a bad liar. I honestly panicked there .
I formed a support group for terrible scum players, we meet on Tuesdays and you can come.
Right now it's just me and Mago but we're here if you need us brother. The first step is admitting it
Sorry I had a hard day
SORRY
I'm not supposed to be this bitchy with non family members
I'm sick of people bitching about theme analysis and claim analysis and mechanics analysis. They're valid forms of investigation and game progression. If you love behavioral reads so much why don't you go blow one
forgot to tag you in above
If I were in Alyssa's shoes when she defended me, I probably would have said something like, "Yeah, that explanation sounds stupid, but people make mistakes [and if I knew my reputation, I'd add something like, "It's Thoth, he gets near-lynch-experiences from things like this all the time]." I don't know Alyssa well enough to say that she wouldn't have suggested an alternative explanation if she were my scummate or town legitimately defending me.
I'm clueless as to why Alyssa mounted that defense, but it also doesn't make sense to me as something she would say as scum. If she's scum and you're town, she knows she doesn't have to worry that you flipping scum would implicate her. If you're both scum she'd never say something so transparent and susworthy.
Oi, it was the first time I ever had to think up a fake claim. What was your excuse when you claimed Strengthener, buttercup
It was retarded tho, must admit, must admit
Sounds like a Wylted but with ego
"Sounds like an omelette but with egg"
What do we gain by VTNLing here? I'd rather narrow the POE, however incrementally.
Thoth
You're really pissing me off
Noted, but specifying a character still helps them narrow down your role
If thats the case I say we drop the subject. Its a waste of time and bloating the thread with players struggling to participate in a game larger than they are use to. If any of you give a shit I am Yoo Jinhoo. Apparently I am a cowardly rich boy that ends up running a guild or something?
Lets get to more productive conversation if thats useless imo.
This was pointless to volunteer my guy. We should not be pointing out who the independent PRs are with nothing to gain from it.
Yeah, there was no need for me to soft that when the soft is so transparent anyway. I'm unrecruitable. If I would have been recruited on night 0, the recruit would have been moved to a player of my choice. I also have two other abilities that I'd rather keep secret for now.
I'd like this verified.
I don't see Mikal giving this as a fake claim to scum if she was the only outlier in this respect, either.
If I understand what Thoth is hinting at, am I correct in thinking it would make it even less likely for Mikal to give it as a fake claim
Please take a minute to think about this.
Interesting
I'm Sung Jin-Ah
The main character's younger sister. I'll wait for people familiar with the series to weigh in, but that's a solid enough character claim for me rn.
You think that mafia might be able to kill even if they don't have access to the factional NK? I think that's highly unlikely tbh.
They could poison if they have a Poisoner, I suppose.
Ignore wylted, he was hunting with dowsing rods on that one
I kid; I'd like to see you in more games and I'm only disappointed you didn't get to meet Magoroth
Is Quite Civilized in the room with us right now
There's too fucking many of you and I'm too busy. Why did I sign up for this.
Anyway, I don't really get the Mestari wagon. We had like 2 wagons recently that blew up in town's faces just because a townie was obstinate. I slightly town Mestari. I don't remember how he plays, but I have a good gut read on him and we can always revisit him later. Lunatic and Wylted are hard town. Still not done reading
The Mes wagon was just hot air and tone policing, not that Mes's tone doesn't by nature instigate and incite.
I'm always on the fence on the notion of tone policing. On the one hand, tone should not affect argument analysis. On the other hand, pricks shouldn't expect to be pricks and never have it inconvenience them.
Yeah, you got me there. I specifically remembered Helz saying in one of the Mafia channels in the DebateCraft server that he knew Mestari from MU and thought he was really good, but it looks like my brain made that up. I think I mixed it up with where Helz said that he himself had devoted a bunch of time to studying Mafia theory. All these (from my perspective) newcomers get jumbled together in my mind.
This just isn't sitting well with me. I could more easily believe you just made an assumption. I'm debating whether or not it's such a poor recovery that it pushes into townfumble territory, but regardless, I'd like a character claim -- and no, I won't push for a full claim.
Regarding the actual sus being thrown at me, there's a pretty clear person that's being left off the list of people who's familiar with Mestari on a mafia level and a personal level that matches me (which I hinted at in #386, though I didn't spell it out to not provide Thoth with a get-out-of-jail-free card in case he is scum). Mikal (i.e. the person hosting this game) is just as familiar with Mestari as I am, both on a mafia level and a personal level (arguable as to who knows Mestari better per se, but it's a hair that's not worth splitting for this context). All it'd take is one question in Thoth's role pm of "Hey who's this Mestari guy who's blowing up the discord with sex jokes" for some level of understanding to be imparted. So sure, if Thoth flips scum then I could be scum by association, but there are other explanations to this.
In no world does scum!Thoth learn this info from Mikal and still say he just got confused about something he heard from Helz. He would just have been honest and said he learned it from Mikal. Problem solved. This isn't any kind of alternate explanation imo.
At this point I am in favor of all the old guard coming back, the collision of personalities this game is lit
"Claimed females"
Always the suspicion from the online dudes. I've never worried claimed male users were stealth females.
"YEAH LUNATIC SAYS HE'S A DUDE BUT YOU CAN NEVER REALLY BE SURE AMIRITE LADIES, PICS OR GTFO 'BRO' "
I was willing to give Thoth the benefit of the doubt that he was just assuming Mes was a fearkill from observation, but his reaction was kind of fumble-y. My eyebrow has been ratcheted up by one gear tooth
Who tf is FT and where tf do you fuckers get the gall to have backstory that predates my introduction to this social community
I have to go to sleep don't check my gaming activity on Discord gn
I take it the suspicion here is that Thoth learned this about Mes from scumchat
