Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/8/2026 at 7:47 PM (post #35)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 6:37 PM (post #20)
Was your power a 1x? Did you target someone last night?
I won't say how many shots I have, but I tried to target Rex, figuring I could either confirm his claim this DP or have a more solid reason to sus him. I didn't get a result.
What message did you get, exactly?
Would also explain the no Mag1c kill. If they've got two shots per night the Doc isn't as much of a threat, and the priority becomes to remove Pie from the conversation DP3, and to get Rex out of the way, cuz he was looking less and less likely to be a mislynch target.
Could be mafia got an ability that lets them rob the dead and killed Mikal to harvest his Vig.
I'm supposed to believe you saw Mikal claim Vig and did not counterclaim? That you chose to target Rex, who screamed town? That town got two identical killing roles? Nah. You're either 3P or mafia.
Lol I absolutely do not believe Kohai puts two Cycle 2+ unlimited Vigs in one game, and if he did, I'm never playing his games again.
VTL: Lunatic
Just can't understand not NKing the Doc. Would understand it if Mag1c was scum, but no one fake claims Doc, and there's no other claimed protective role on the board -- plus Mag1c is the one who suggested the VTNL last DP, and if he hadn't we could be at MYLO right now.
No new hope message? D:
Was your power a 1x? Did you target someone last night?
Who did you doctor
Let's hear it
Fuck me. Was wrong about Thoth, wrong about Pie, two kills in one night, Mag1c is somehow alive, and they've passed over viable mislynch targets twice now.
Well then.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/7/2026 at 3:27 PM (post #339)
I don’t think I jumped on him “quick.” I was on the Mago = scum train long before. But walk me through this idea. WF is a scum who is a Rolecop or has a Rolecop ability. He investigated Luna and saw he was Redirector/BP and then concocted a fake specific claim like comedian with the third role being EXACTLY what Mikal had? That makes absolutely zero sense to me.
The "Rex's arguments against whiteflame seem weak, VTL Rex" just seemed contrived to me and the work of busy-with-work scum!Pie.
One of the roles being Mikal's was part of what seemed sus to me. Like scum who weren't sure what to pad out the rest of the list with, or who wanted to add a patina of legitimacy to the list by including a role town knows exists in the game. And if Kohai is supplementing the list with the roles of players whiteflame didn't even target, that seems like a big advantage he's handing whiteflame.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/7/2026 at 3:27 PM (post #339)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/7/2026 at 2:22 PM (post #327)
Couple things. I've kind of let Mikal's death fall by the wayside of my analyses -- I still think scum only NKs him if they think he's very likely to shoot one of theirs. I will note that whiteflame was in both of Mikal's stated POEs.
I townread Rex and Banana, and Mag1c of course, who is about to die a soldier's death. *salute* Rex is right, we shouldn't have let Pie lead a claim wagon on him. Alas, Pie is a good wagonrouser.
I mean it got more activity out of him. That slot of was unreadable, and now is likely town.
I feel like Pie jumped on Rex really quick today for just vibe FOSing whiteflame. He also handwaved the suspicions against whiteflame's role.
I don’t think I jumped on him “quick.” I was on the Mago = scum train long before. But walk me through this idea. WF is a scum who is a Rolecop or has a Rolecop ability. He investigated Luna and saw he was Redirector/BP and then concocted a fake specific claim like comedian with the third role being EXACTLY what Mikal had? That makes absolutely zero sense to me.
Well shit. I'll answer this tomorrow.
VTL: No Lynch
“Grab the stick?” Donut shrieked. “What do you mean, grab the stick! Thumbs, Carl! Thumbs!”
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 7/7/2026 at 3:23 PM (post #331)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 7/7/2026 at 3:23 PM (post #330)
Everyone who is saying WF is scum, he’s our only investigative role. I don’t see much conversation about that. Not to mention that Luna townreads WFs.
wait where did Whiteflame claim investigative? I missed that
Claim is Comedian. He targets a player and receives a "joke" consisting of three roles, one of which is accurate.
Couple things. I've kind of let Mikal's death fall by the wayside of my analyses -- I still think scum only NKs him if they think he's very likely to shoot one of theirs. I will note that whiteflame was in both of Mikal's stated POEs.
I townread Rex and Banana, and Mag1c of course, who is about to die a soldier's death. *salute* Rex is right, we shouldn't have let Pie lead a claim wagon on him. Alas, Pie is a good wagonrouser.
I feel like Pie jumped on Rex really quick today for just vibe FOSing whiteflame. He also handwaved the suspicions against whiteflame's role.
Feel like it's either Luna/Pie or Pie/WF at the mo
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/7/2026 at 2:10 PM (post #268)
It shouldn't factor into your decision, but if you feel the same way tomorrow, I implore you go all in on pressuring me. There's so much I don't want to say or respond to wrt to my role because it will tamper a strategy I am attempting, so I have had to ignore a few salient points you have made in your last response to me. A lot of things will make sense when I eventually claim. I know that sounds a lot like a "Just trust me bro" but.... Just trust me bro
Lunatic going for a Persuasion check. Let's roll the dice and see if his Charisma is high enough!
... check succeeds!
I'll VTNL before the clock runs out.
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 7/7/2026 at 2:24 PM (post #289)
I was going to post a larger iteration of the basics of that post, which were that I thought the possibilities were
Luna/WF T/T - Luna is bodyguard
Luna/WF S/T - Luna is scum redirector
Luna/WF T/S - Luna is town redirector
My thinking with this setup was that if you were town you would immediately take umbrage at the third - that if Luna was a town redirector that you could not earnestly scumread him as a town player. I feel like if I were town and had worked through the possibilities of your results in my head and somebody precluded me from sussing a town redirector as town it would be something I would immediately call out because I would have done just that in my own head. But if I was scum faking it? It wouldn't immediately stick out to me as much because I wouldn't actively be reasoning through all the possibilities trying to make sense of my results. If you had picked up on that I would have townread you on it. You didn't. And ever since then the DP has felt very political - like you didn't want to drive a wagon on me but wanted to cut the legs off of any argument that I was town to build consensus against me and let other people build it - maybe your scummate, maybe just mislead town.
I don't support a no lynch. I'd honestly rather you lynch me so you can see I'm town and pick up on the way WF has been acting this DP and move the game forward. If we no lynch the game will just stagnate
Hmm. I really didn't pick that up from #181 and there's a chance whiteflame didn't either, hence his comment that he would let you elaborate before responding.
I'm in the doctor's office waiting room, hopefully I'll be home in time for the vote, or actually, hopefully I won't be so I won't have to come to a decision
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/7/2026 at 12:16 PM (post #254)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/7/2026 at 10:01 AM (post #250)
I also don't see Rex gunning for whiteflame like this as scum. This reminds me of when he was going against the tide to sus whiteflame last game.
Times ticking, who do you want to lynch today? Plurality is in effect so largest wagon dies, remember
I haz indecision
If I lynch you the game will be less fun
Which like, shouldn't be factored into my decision but
