I'm Candace Owens' left tit. Legend has it she drew AOC's face on it and it speaks to her tauntingly like the Green Goblin's helmet.
I'm Candace Owens' left tit. Legend has it she drew AOC's face on it and it speaks to her tauntingly like the Green Goblin's helmet.
I don't have much free time and only joined cuz Rex was short. I know nothing about this theme.
Doesn't matter, does it? We started last DP with 6. Mislynch takes us to 5. That night phase Mag1c can't doctor. NK makes it 4, 2-2, that's parity.
I supported the draw when I believed you that your role was unstoppable. It's unusual, but so is two Vigs. Now? Yeah that was definitely MYLO by either definition up for debate here, not that it doesn't pain me to say so.
Very understandable. Sorry I held onto that Popular so long and brought this headache on you lol. Hopefully the bad taste this has left fades quickly for you.
Simple, we just rename it Mislynch and Fail a Saving Throw.
I definitely sympathize with Lunatic and whiteflame here, but I don't get the sense we've made real progress reaching an agreed-upon definition of MYLO. Is this something we're going to leave it for individual moderators to define?
Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/9/2026 at 12:22 AM (post #11)
I always thought of MYLO as strictly numerical, i.e., 1-3 is MYLO even if there is no way for scum to win overnight after a mislynch, because defining it in terms of possible outcomes could give too much insight into the setup. I think how MYLO and LYLO are defined is worthy of more discussion, and that hosts should specify exactly what they mean by MYLO/LYLO.
I think it pretty much only says "there are mechanics in play you're not fully aware of." That's not terribly revealing.
Kind of misleading to call it "mislynch and lose" if town might not have mislynched and lost. If we're going to define it by numbers alone, why not rename it to better reflect that definition?
Confused by the Mikal town MVP.
I regret only that I forgot to post any Donut quotes today.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 11:41 PM (post #131)
Well I didn’t lie about my role, it actually was a night 2 activated vig. That’s why I didn’t believe Mikal was one, we killed him thinking he was trying to intimidate scum away from another power role, so we called the bluff. Was surprised that he was actually a second vig. Whiteflame had already had Mrs. Maisel lined up as a fake and I told him about the comedian role from supas South Park game though and thought it would be perfect for a gambit. Goal was to potentially use it to bus me and confirm him, since my flip would be a np2 vig, as well as bait out the protective role since bp was one of the claims on it. And in the best scenario if we both loved id be able to prove my role tonight.
Wow. I was more willing to believe you stole the ability than that there were two identical roles even on either side of the alignment divide.
Bussy strategies are so hard to sus out. What with this one and the one with wylted, I'mma have to mark you down as a Serial Bus Strategist, mister.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/8/2026 at 11:37 PM (post #124)
Agreed with Luna. Even if you're telling the truth, it's still MYLO and it just becomes a probability game.
I didn't realize it could still be MYLO if there's even a chance town can make it to the next day phase.
I meant that even though this example happened in the context of MYLO it proves the role has applications beyond the context of MYLO.
You guys are really gonna need to tell me how you came up with this Comedian/Secondary Vig plan.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 11:30 PM (post #115)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 9:28 PM (post #114)
So Popular can be better utilized beyond mere role confirmation. Good to know. I considered it a weak role.
I mean this was lylo. lol if kohai wants to say it wasn’t mylo he’s wrong but it’s his game so he can hand town the win if he wants I guess
I just meant that it shows Popular can be used to lure scum to a false wagon in general.
So Popular can be better utilized beyond mere role confirmation. Good to know. I considered it a weak role.
Would definitely suck if Kohai overturned his decision and invalidated that nice wylted trick.
whiteflame's claim was similar to his fake claim in Andor mafia. Made me sus the whole game.
Nicely done.
I mean you are seeing the reason it is SOP in real time, not even sure how that's an "eh"
As long as you're not an unfocused idiot and lose track of the approach of MYLO, it's an "eh."
A graverobber, assuming this is a thing, wouldn't it just give me an unlimited use of vig, thus still presenting a balance issue? Or a JOAT with an extra night kill? No matter how you spin this, we have a balance issue at play, regardless of what you think my affiliation is, the balance is 100% confirmably bad, me being scum town or 3p doesn't change that fact.
When it's a mafia-aligned role it is sometimes called Mugger, and it was used in Barry mafia, as an example.
What's a worse balance issue? 1) Giving two town players unlimited Vigs, or 2) giving one town player a Vig and one mafia player a Graverobber/Scavenger/Mugger, with a 1 in 8 chance they will target the Vig with it? I argue the first.
"You're a favorite in the series." (¬_¬)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:51 PM (post #58)
Popular is one of those roles that mods frequently use for both teams, you can claim that dp1 and still receive a bit of suspivion for it. Also as you now know, it loses all utility in MYLO as that would be OP. So in general, it's considered an SOP claim.
Hated, yes. Popular, eh.
I planned to claim this DP, but in my defense it did not occur to me in a bazillion years that there was another lethal role in the game, that there would be two NK's last night, and we could be at MYLO today.
Okay but if I wasn't a vig, and we got a mislynch instead, we would have been in the exact same spot numbers wise, so this is either an oversight, or a lie.
Oh yeah. I should've claimed last DP then. Oh well. I'm not good at keeping track of the numbers. With no confirmable role, I'm sure my head's on the block. I'm not even mad, my fault for trying to be too clever about the Popular thing and losing track of the math.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:48 PM (post #57)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 6:41 PM (post #55)
I did ask Mag1c who he protected. I freely admit that my analysis here is 100% built on the premise that you can't be town because there cannot be two identical town Vigs, so my suppositions must by necessity grow more specific as I struggle to explain the data through the lens of that premise.
If you're 3P, I definitely need to remove my vote, but I can't be sure you are. I wouldn't expect even a 3P to have Mikal's exact same role, to be frank. This would make a lot more sense if you simply are mafia and gravedug the role from Mikal.
So it sounds like the entirety of your vote on me is based on the hope that you think the mod made any sense of balance here. But I don't even agree that a scum vig with a town vig is balanced. Two vigges in a ten player game is just wild no matter how you spin it, with only one doctor to boot.
Yes, 100%, I'm hoping against hope Kohai gave scum like a Graverobber and a JOAT and that this game is not terribly balanced. I must have faith that I will not facepalm at endgame!
Coming innnn on a winggg and a prayerrrrr~
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:38 PM (post #54)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 6:33 PM (post #50)
Well fuck my life. I'm Town Popular. If we're in MYLO, I'm not confirmable and that's gg lol.
If there's any realm of possibilty that you are town, I am not gonna beat you up for this, but I would like to know the thought process behind waiting until now to claim this at least lol. I think you understand now how with holding this claim til mylo was... not a good play.
I've never seen anyone actually do anything with Popular except role confirm themselves. I wanted to see if I could use it to farm actionable data, maybe see who tried to start a wagon on me, but no opportunity arose. I planned to claim this DP, but in my defense it did not occur to me in a bazillion years that there was another lethal role in the game, that there would be two NK's last night, and we could be at MYLO today.
I did ask Mag1c who he protected. I freely admit that my analysis here is 100% built on the premise that you can't be town because there cannot be two identical town Vigs, so my suppositions must by necessity grow more specific as I struggle to explain the data through the lens of that premise.
If you're 3P, I definitely need to remove my vote, but I can't be sure you are. I wouldn't expect even a 3P to have Mikal's exact same role, to be frank. This would make a lot more sense if you simply are mafia and gravedug the role from Mikal.
Well fuck my life. I'm Town Popular. If we're in MYLO, I'm not confirmable and that's gg lol.
Ah fuck, are we in MYLO? Lemme check.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:02 PM (post #41)
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 5:47 PM (post #34)
Would also explain the no Mag1c kill. If they've got two shots per night the Doc isn't as much of a threat, and the priority becomes to remove Pie from the conversation DP3, and to get Rex out of the way, cuz he was looking less and less likely to be a mislynch target.
Just saying if magic protected a kill, I would have been unable to confirm myself. If I was actually scum I would be killing magic all day.
I'm sure scum have a Strongman or some such and that y'all would use it for Rex's kill to make sure it went through so you could sell this story, and since Mag1c had Pie in his POE there were low odds he would doc him. There's not a strong case to be made for you sussing Mag1c, so he's not a viable target. Better to lay the groundwork for a Rex kill, bump him off, try to sell it DP3, then bump Mag1c off NP3.
Unless you're 3P.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:01 PM (post #40)
I told you many times I thought he was baiting. Didn't think he was actually a vig, why would I counter claim an obviously bs claim? Imagine my surprise when he was actually the same role as me.
Yeah I had a blond moment there.
Nah, i'm gonna need you to actually explain this one to me. Multiple people suspected rex. He was my top scum read next to banana.. Peep my reads kast day phase.
I'm judging your judgment through the lens of my judgment, judgmentally. Lol. Or to put it in other words, Rex was so clearly town to me based on his behavior that I struggle to see town!Lunatic genuinely sussing him. I was baffled that Pie VTL'd him too. At least whiteflame only VTL'd him because he was a claim void.
How tf am I even supposed to respond to this lol. I am sorry kohai is a shit mod I guess, but I did tell you multiple times this was the case.
I won't believe even Kohai would put two of the same role into a game unless they were on either side of an alignment divide.