Wryly

It's time to play Red Dead until I pass out and then awaken with a groan to the cold cruel light of lucidity and the Sisyphean burden of responsibility and obligation that color the daylight world. How I treasure these brief playful distractions from my terrible adult knowledge of entropy death and the slow creep of decay.

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I'm stuck in a need more information/don't want scum to have more information rub. We don't want scum to know who the Great Generals are but we also (imo) need more info going forward. Open to suggestions.

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Part of me has a hypothesis that the scum team cannot perform a NK and can only recruit but other townies /3p have the power to kill. This is something I"ll have to mull over


Based on what


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I'd like to know if scum has a Janitor or because of the special mechanics of this game every NK is just gonna go poof without a flip dammit

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I will consider this information unproven/uncorroborated, and thus null for now, but noted.

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I'm having flashbacks to when everyone VTL'd Thoth in Alien Mafia because his character and role seemed sus af as reported, and he was innocent, so I'm not prepared to VTL just yet. Not when we haven't heard from everyone and collected all possible info from this DP.

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I think healer was an afterthought to be honest because it says I am a master of botanical.arts which can be deadly and because of this mastery I am 1x poisoner and a 1x healer.

I didn't make the justification though.


I mean Milich is a botanist but he didn't create the antidote for the main poison he uses in the game.

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Kohai was pretty insistent that Tir is town, though that doesn't match up with the assumed theme split too well, or the very Soul Eater-like manner in which Shining was NK'd.


I could see wylted carrying out the NK and then making up this poisoning story to cover his visit, but it seems riskier than just NKing and hoping no one tracked him. Draws more attention.


I can't account for the inconsistency in his character and ability and it does seem sus.


Impossible for me to analyze Thoth's info with such vagueness surrounding it, but regardless, all it means is wylted didn't use any power role on Shining. NK is still possible.

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I don’t think so at all. That’s just factually not accurate in the game at all

its inconsistent as shit


It's definitely questionable, and honestly it's not something I would expect Rex to do if he's as much of a Suikoden lorefan as you

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If you think it's best not to reveal, don't. I'd rather be ignorant alongside scum than informed alongside scum

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Idk wtf to think.


Wylted says he poisoned Shining, whose name he temporarily forgot, and coincidentally Shining was targeted for the NK, but Thoth says wylted "did not kill Shining" unless it was via NK, which doesn't make much sense. That's the only way wylted could have killed Shining, correct? The poison doesn't kill immediately, it, well, poisons.


Simultaneously Thoth says he knows Mikal is innocent which doesn't make much sense to me if Thoth targeted wylted somehow.

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It was a different character entirely who created the antidote, yes, and I would've assumed Rex would make that character the doc, but I'm not eliminating the possibility Rex took some liberties with characters and role.

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I'm stumped as to what role you could have had that allowed you to ascertain 1) that wylted did not kill Shining and 2) that Mikal is innocent, all in one NP.


Could a more experienced player weigh in on that?

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If you're saying he could only have done so with the NK then I assume you interfered with his role somehow?

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It’s a soft. There are still 108 characters. And it ties him directly to it. He was being asked to claim so at least it makes them do work.

and there are a few characters that can apply to


It's not a soft. I know nothing about this game and now know who he is based only on your question. There's only like one character in Suikoden 1 who fucks with poison and whose last name is a movie title. You told him not to claim and then asked him a giveaway question. This is one character we did not want scum figuring out.

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Why hint and answer like this I can figure out his character from a google now and so can scum

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I havent played with him before but he was saying obvious stuff and it felt like fluff. Like his comments about white flame felt contrived. I guess it's too late now but he had so few posts maybe he was hinting at a role and the scum team want to use the role he was hinting at as a fake claim or something


This really isn't much to base a decision on, but I feel like shooting from the hip would be characteristic of you, so whatever.