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Post #502 was me voting yea btw.


He's too much of a risk. We've alienated him and cum could have a lot of fun using him to ill ends. They may already have.

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I agree with this, but Mikal said he thought WF was bluffing. Anyways, it’s partially Mharman’s fault too for being a retard.


Even if he suspected he was bluffing there was 0 reason to take that risk as town. Its like something scum would do on the off chance they could get an extra townie killed. I'd laugh my ass off about it too


As for whether to lynch WF, I think town has succeeded in engendering at best apathy and at worst spite in him and hes unlikely to want to help us atp, so yeah

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And why tf is everyone blaming whiteflame for targeting Magic. He has no reason to shoot responsibly, hes TP; Mikal, however, had a reason to choose the target responsibly. If he's town.

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On my way home but not happy with the way things have developed here.


First you said the theme wasnt basic then that it was as simple as the two factions in the game. First you said it was safe to character claim in defiance of mod warning, then that we shouldn't bc roles could be inferred from it, then that we should mass claim. You arbitrarily got our cop killed for vague reasons with no significant gains, and now that whiteflame has been burned by town and proven to be an effective tool for killing townies, you dont want to lynch anyone today. Youve been the greatest force urging us all to share our claims when if you're right we should be keeping those who can be recruited shrouded in anonymity. Not saying ive scumlocked you but why you're in anyone's town pile I have no idea.

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Modpsychers unite: Can you imagine Rex giving scum a third-party as a fake-claim?


🫩 Why would you put this thought in my head

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I know you're chomping at the bit to see everyone's cards because of your familiarity with the lore, but you solving it before scum takes advantage of the info or NK's you is hardly a guarantee, and anyway we'd all be relying pretty much entirely on your judgment for a solve. Don't like basing my votes off one person's narrative.

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No way im on board with a mass claim considering the mod warning about TMI aiding scum.

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I'm ok with a WF lynch. No reason to trust that his win conditions are what he says.


For now, we still haven't heard from Ultra or Wylted

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I can see a scenario where WF comes home tired from work, is asked to claim Toran/Scarlet, sees nothing to that effect in his PM, and reads from the wiki. I don't want to jump the gun here. The major point for me is that scum would be crazy to claim Toran affiliation. You've just pointed out an Empire character he could've fake claimed instead. There must be more Empire characters scum could use.

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Not sure how to take this tbh. I had just been trying to figure out how the New State Army fit into the events of Suidoken when Mikal said its actually from Suidoken II. I could see WF perhaps reading it from the wiki, but I took "it says..." to mean his PM. People usually convey information from their PM first before the wiki

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revealing information about your character will allow scum to use their roles to much greater effect


☝️ we just ignoring this now

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why scum can only recruit certain characters - (don't want to say this as it will tell them who to target)
what aspects of the game support the recruitment or cult mechanic (the entire game is based around recruiting 107 characters, the stars of destiny)
why Sanchez would be unrecruitable - (sanchez was a traitor who basically fucked over the liberation and betrayed all his friends. He was scarlet through and through)


Appreciate the answers.


If the game is just Toran freedom fighters recruiting people from the Empire, why can't scum recruit anyone aligned with the Empire, including Sanchez?

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Currently most of the speculation is being driven by one person whose expertise I'm leaning on, which I don't love since a loremaster on the scum side could really control the narrative when the theme is such an esoteric game.


Not loving the paucity of online information about the PS1 game specifically. The synopses I can find are kind of ass. Don't even mention the 108 stars.


I don't grok the following:


  1. why scum can only recruit certain characters
  2. what aspects of the game support the recruitment or cult mechanic
  3. why Sanchez would be unrecruitable
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And if the leading theory rn is scum = Toran I'm interested to know why you're so certain Tir is town

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Are you made after a pirate ?
No. I won’t claim any further.


Why does the text in your Mikal quote not match the text in the original post (#36)?

Wryly

Best working theory based on available data, but I'm not eliminating the possibility of a TP.