If it was me and Rex I wouldn't have VTL'd him DP1. Also why would Rex confirm Luna as town, that turns up the heat on me.
If it was me and Rex I wouldn't have VTL'd him DP1. Also why would Rex confirm Luna as town, that turns up the heat on me.
#68, something about a mirror maker that hit WF and bounced back on Rex and Magic both.
If Thoth is telling the truth, then the only role that could've possibly redirected me to myself is a Mirror Maker placed on Whiteflame, at which point Rex should've had his roleblock bounced back at himself, which is something I completely missed last DP (which is why I just realized I didn't need to wait on Thoth). This would easily make him the teammate, and the claim was simply something he pulled out of his ass. I've realized that although Rex is more passive of a player, it doesn't mean he can't try something when he's almost certainly going to be the lynch.
All right I'm gonna call it a night. Bookmark:
The following scum teams are still possible:
Mharman Me
Mharman Thoth
Mharman Wryly
Mharman Luna
Wryly Me
You can eliminate Magic/You from that list. As Luna points out, it leaves Luna as townie but still lying about the dreamer results.
You can eliminate Magic/Luna as well. You would have died from visiting Luna last NP in that setup.
So we're down to:
Magic - Thoth
Magic - Wryly
Magic - Luna
Wryly - Rex
To be clear, you are claiming you hid behind Lunatic last NP?
Not Luna, because if Luna were a fake dreamer he wouldn't put Thoth in POE.
(Post #89) Not to imply that Luna or I are scum, but rumor has reached me (before this game started) that Lunatic is notorious for taking ridiculous risks like this, hence why I have been moderately skeptical of him being the Dreamer.
I can buy him taking risks if there's something to gain by it. What is there to gain from placing a scummate in POE? Generating doubt that they're scummates? How could that be worth it. The chances of it hurting outweigh the chances of it helping.
(Post #110) Are you speaking hypothetically, or did Lunatic claim 1x Dreamer?
If it was rex and me, and you were town why haven't joined mharman and hammered you already for the win?
If it's Rex and thoth why haven't they hammered you already
This is impossible, because it would mean I was lying about my dreamer results and would have to be scum, and if there were three scum the game would be over.
Also if it was Rex and you, why not NK Magic or me.
Also if it was Rex and Thoth why not NK Magic.
Yeah it appears to be stacking up.
Yeahhh only now realizing I didn't understand how NKs work at all. I thought scum like submitted their NK decision to the moderator and the moderator basically carried it out. I did not think one scum or the other executed it or that it was a traceable visit like any role action, or that a roleblock stops it.
If it was Magic and Thoth I wonder what the theme split is. There's nothing apparently in common with Erak Starfollower and Gilan.
I was aware of the possibility of this ending the game but I was willing to gamble on it because it was critical to lynch scum next DP, and if Luna was scum he would probably carry out the NK to avoid his teammate from doing anything incriminating.
Could you explain that last part, I'm having a brain fart.
The fact the Luna was roleblocked would also confirm to him that I visited him if he were town. So I feel like if he were scum and creating this false POE my targeting him would stop the NK and kill me, allowing me to be tracked to him if Thoth and Wryly were town.
So you didn't know that Luna was a 1x Dreamer, meaning he wouldn't be aware of being roleblocked at all and this tactic was for naught.
Also not clear on how targeting Luna would stop the NK if Luna was scum.
If it was Rex and Luna, Thoth wouldn't have tracked Rex visiting Luna. Why would scum visit scum. Is that a thing?
If it was Rex and Thoth, Thoth would never have VTL'd Rex in DP1. Bussing seems unlikely, he could easily have just gone inactive like he did for the Mikal lynch.
If it was Rex and Magic, Rex wouldn't be VTLing Magic right now.
If it was Thoth and Luna, Thoth wouldn't have shown up in Luna's fake POE dream. Why POE a scummate.
If it was Luna and Magic, Rex would be dead.
I'm looking at Thoth and Magic.
If you the doctor, I'd hope it "makes sense to you".
This post really rubs me the wrong way based on its phrasing, sounds like a scum slip lol
It makes sense to me that Pie included a doctor in the game since the other protective roles can also be liabilities.
I am not sure how many noob passes to keep giving you
17.
Thats literally my justification. If you don't like it take it up with pie in the endgame.
I could be barking up the wrong tree here like I was when I thought that campfire character didn't fit with a poison healer in Magic's game.
So Rex wasn't risking blocking a second vision of yours by targeting you. Though it's unclear if he knew that or not.
At this point I can't be sure Thoth is a tracker at all. If his scummate was Magic then his first track results could be fabricated. And this DP he tracked someone who had already posted his movements. Claiming tracker would be a great way to try to tempt me to target him. I almost did.
Home and playing catch-up. Lun, did Pie give you 1x or 2x dreamer?
No more distracted texting. I'll think this through once im at my desktop
Wait no im dumb
NP1, I hid under Whiteflame, but didn't die,
You mean NP2 right
Not home yet and only skimmed but I would definitely have protected Thoth if he wasnt in Luna's vision
Wha--? So he can get two visions? And no one asked him if it was 1 or 2x??
I thought for sure dreamer only ever got 1 because 2 seemed OP'd.
I asked Pie this but ofc he couldn't answer. Does the dreamer only get one vision?
I was gonna make a joke about it but I was like nah theyre too in the game to want jokes in the mafia thread
Super busy today will post when I get home. Wondering why scum targeted RT (or whatever tf hes called now) when there were more threatening roles on the board
Tell me more about your character's role justification. It doesn't click with me.
Justification is about how it is my dream to rule the kingdom and how he pursues this dream even after taking a defeat by regrouping in the mountains of rain and night.
You might as well make Sauron a dreamer because he wanted to conquer Middle Earth and didn't give up after he was defeated by Elendil and Gil-galad on the slopes of Mount Doom. You might as well make Voldemort a dreamer because he sought dominance over the wizarding world and didn't give up after the curse backfired at Godric's Hollow and he lost corporeal form.
You said in DP2 that you targeted whiteflame because you scumread him. What made you scumread him DP1?
Bah
Erak Starfollower. hm. Warrior, navigator, Viking-slaver-turned-good-guy. And "everything and nothing?" What, a JOAT? Just don't know enough about roles to guess.
Both of you bitches dump your purses
Knowing there's a 50% chance this is all a "no U first" scum act makes this 2x more irritating
Btw claim biatch
Damn he did
Kohai are we fr
Actually I didn't consider the possibility of a randomizer or something messing with Rex's results