Both are the words of Jesus. They are both assumed true.
See also
1 john 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Hopefully to get people to read voting rubric and understand it.
That way a person can look at a vote and determine if it meets guidelines or not. And if it does not, the vote can be reported.
There are shiekh who consider certain things of ai to be haram. But ultimately it has to do with what you use it for, how long you use it for.
Potentially ai can encourage or bring up every thing that is haram.
Thanks! I appreciate the comparison
Many people have tried to explain, wether by zeal, emotion or multitudes of verses, Why is christianity the best way, or how can a person be saved by a book over 1800 years old.
So lets lay a foundation and precepts that perhaps can help someone understand the logic and the precepts of the bible.
First of all, there must be faith that there is a God, and he rewards those that seek him.
If you dont believe he will reward those that seek him, why believe in him? Surely any other god can be sought and give nothing of value.
What rewards does he give that we should seek after the God of abraham, issac and jacob?
The Lord, according to his word, offers not only eternal life to all those who serve him and make him their God, he also brings gifts and relationship to those who desire him.
Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
What kind of a reward is it to have a spirit or to have Jesus to abide in you?
Consider being in your house or residence, when someone comes to the door you know they want something from you. depending on who it is, you may or may not answer the door, or you may tell them to leave.
If its a person that cares about you and you enjoy your time with them, it is more likely you will let them in.
The intention of whoever knocks on the door is known in 3 ways.
1: who it is.
2: what they say.
3: what they bring/dont bring.
So when Jesus wishes to abide with you, you have to see who he is and what he brings, then you have to listen to his words to understand why he comes.
So why does jesus come?
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
Immediately the character or words of Jesus is opposite of a thief, he comes to bring life to you, and if you already have life, then he promises to give more abundant life.
The heck is life? Is it breathing? If so, is jesus saying he will offer more breath?
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
So he supposes himself to be the life. If he is indeed life, then why does he have to ask to come into your life?
2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Psalms 8:4-6 4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
Psalms 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
God is a free spirit, and he gave man dominion over all the works of God. Including his own body
So he cannot enter in unless you allow him, that is why he knocks at the door of your mind, your heart, your awareness.
Debate idea: should we redo age of
Consent
Driving
Drinking
Citizenship
Joining military
Voting
the voting was established in 1971. Age 18
Selective services was ages 21-36 in 1940.
Military age was lowered during ww2 draft was 18.
17 is now enlistment age.
Consent was 1920's
and is still between 16-18 depending on states.
Driving in 1921 and age is 16.
Drinking was made 21 in 1988
As time goes on, our society becomes more lax in responsibilities and thus the age slowly rises. except in combat.
Should we increase the ages or leave them as they are?
Discuss/debate
Didnt aristole say fire is an element though?
Plotinus shows the 3 elements of reality to be
The one
Intellect
Soul
And in neoplatoism it creates a hypostatis of which the trinity is very similar to.
The quran has never been a book for peace. Its all about killing and obedience.
The greatest lie the muslim has ever told is that they are a religion of peace.
My mother prayed five times a day, quietly, on a little rug. I didn’t kick her out. That was her space. I let it be.
But the same book she whispers to also says: “Crush the infidel.” Allah “misleads whom He wills” (Quran 7:178). That’s not devotion. It’s a countdown.
My father signed a fatwa: Kill me if I leave. Not some stranger. Not ISIS. My dad. That’s the default setting.
Right now, five miles away, an imam recites Quran 9:29: “Fight them until they pay the jizya in humiliation.” Then he winks—“misunderstood.” It isn’t. He’s selling skimmed milk.Here’s the real list, no edits:
• Steal? Your right hand is chopped off. Quran 5:38.
• Adultery? Married ones are stoned alive. Bukhari 6.60.79.
• Gay? Throw them from a roof, then stone the fall. Abu Dawud 4462.
• Leave Islam? One quick neck slice. Bukhari 9.84.57.
• Believe Jesus is God? Eternal fire, no escape. Quran 4:48.
• Rob a caravan? Amputate opposite limbs, crucify the body. Muslim 17.4194.None of that is optional.
None of it is rare. It’s policy.Jihad isn’t an inner struggle. It’s “strike their necks” (Quran 8:12).
Paradise? It’s “under the shade of swords” (Muslim 8.3322).Sufis spin. Salafis shoot. Same verse, same aim: Until there is no god but Allah. So when a coworker says, “We just want to coexist,” ask: On whose map? The Quran doesn’t rent space. One caliph. One law. One god. Everything else is overtime—pay jizya or pick a blade.
Real faith makes you lighter. Renounce. Surrender. Breathe. Islam loads you down: Convert, conquer, collect. I tried to drop the weight.
They called it apostasy. I tried to walk away. They loaded rounds.I’m not mad at prayer. I’m mad at the salesman version—the lie that “moderate” is a flavor. It isn’t.If you’re Muslim, own the stoning. Own the amputations. Own the hellfire line for every non-Muslim on earth. If you won’t, don’t hide behind the word. You’re not moderate. You’re awake.
Fight against those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islām] from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. – Saheeh International Surah At-Tawbah Quran 9:29
Quran 4:101
101. And when you (Muslims) travel in the land, there is no sin on you if you shorten your Salat (prayer) if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you, verily, the disbelievers are ever unto you open enemies.
Quran 2:216
216. Fighting* (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.
[TROP Editor's note: I have substituted the word "fighting" for the translators' preference ("Jihad") since the Arabic word used here is from the root qital. "Jihad" is an Arabic word that is not used in this verse.
Quran 4:76
76. Those who believe, fight in the Cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (Satan, etc.). So fight you against the friends of Shaitan (Satan); Ever feeble indeed is the plot of Shaitan (Satan).
Quran 8:39-41
39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
40. And if they turn away, then know that Allah is your Maula (Patron, Lord, Protector and Supporter, etc.), (what) an Excellent Maula, and (what) an Excellent Helper!
41. And know that whatever of war-booty that you may gain, verily one-fifth (1/5th) of it is assigned to Allah, and to the Messenger, and to the near relatives [of the Messenger (Muhammad)], (and also) the orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor) and the wayfarer, if you have believed in Allah and in that which We sent down to Our slave (Muhammad) on the Day of criterion (between right and wrong), the Day when the two forces met (the battle of Badr) - And Allah is Able to do all things.
They are encouraged to kill and convert.
I agreed with ya in other topic that was related to this. I think we definately need to shine more light on this subject. Maybe make it a debate.
I dont believe its misogyny to repeal the 19th personally, we arent trying to discredit or make women lesser, we are just acknowledging that we made a mistake and that we learned from it.
Women are more emotional and prefer to be taken care of. Women are hardwired to reject what is harmful to insane degrees, because thats how a mother is suppose to be for her children.
Its not misogyny, its understanding women's nature and letting men be the source of leadership and the protectors of our freedoms.
Obviously there are ignorant men and intelligent women, so we should try to be better informed. But having women deny their role as nuturers is not gonna help anyone.
Thanks for feedback. I know its hard to do what im asking. But hopefully it will make debatecraft grow.
And if people are for more rugged language and what not, we still have the discord!
Ok. So go to profile, click on badges. It will show tests to vote on debates and to form debate topics. Basically i wanted to extend questions so people dont just guess randomly, then use process of elimination to figure out answers.
Like they have to legit read the vote rubric and answer questions.
I know adding 15-25 questions wont prevent this, as a person can just write down what answers they got right and continue process of elimination, but i encourage more so it would be more thorough and harder to do so.
Thanks for feedback. I honestly thought this would be ignore.
History has shown in ddo and dart that people leave when they feel harassed.
This isnt a website to test the emotional resolve or to train them to deal with arguement outside the debate, this isnt a purist website to let in only the most qualified or the most base of people,
This is a website for debating ideas, and throughout history of DDO and DART i see most of the same people harassing others and using mocking language to create their own echo chamber and to dismiss ideas.
This is not a matter of how you or i feel, its a matter of preserving a website from failing. I am giving suggestions that i believe will help people to be intrested in this website and to hang around longer.
Purist mentality doesnt pay the bills, we must learn to be kind and respect each other, or my perdiction SHALL come to pass. The discord is sufficient if you desire an echo chamber, discord can host people for free, websites however, cannot.
It is in everyone's best intrest to be civil and respect the wishes of others. If this cannot be done, then this place shall be defunct.
This doesnt mean agree in debates, it doesnt mean always say flowery words. But when someone says stop, it means stop.
It is my hope that with a new owner, we can help create a climate of decency in this website, we can implement new rules without personal bias or for the sake of someone's approval or some person lining the pockets if rules are changed to fit their needs.
A whale is never satisfied, neither is an egotistical person, they will always want more dominion, authority and recognition. Do not be foolish and follow the money.
Create a good enviroment, then more people will come, honest debaters who care about their ideas, rather than getting a win.
Like i said. Not christians. Stop trying to correct me.
Those werent christians. They were servants of antichrist and baphomet repectively.
Its no big deal for you, for you are ignorant of the quran that commands these people to kill or convert. To kill jews and christians, or humilate them through a tax.
Its all well and good to say let them kill each other, until you or your family are on the chopping block.
Correction. Christianity didnt have fire offerings. Christ is the perfect sacrifice.
Its important to understand that what individuals or groups do, do not represent what scripture says.
I agree. We should repeal the 19th amendment. Women have used the arguement that they were treated less than men for over 1000 years, but the reality is, they are more emotional and are the weaker vessel, as God intended. He made eve to be a help meet for the man, not to contend against man in parliment or congress or matters of authority.
Let the men vote and the women help build the nation through teaching children how to honor the country through their words, works and their votes.
My idea is they also make it where they cant post on YOUR topics in forums.
Basically they cant tag you, it wont show up if they did tag you. Its not a new feature.
For over the past decade the muslims in nigeria have been killing christians, burning down their churches, starving them.
But why? What does islam have to fear from christians? Did they mount an assault against them? Did they try to take over their government? Did christians persecute the muslims in northern nigeria?
No. Far worse, the christians sent evangelists to them to try to turn them to christ. And they FEARED the christian movement of converting the muslims.
In DART restraining orders were a problem for most people, the reason they were a problem was because mods got to decide if interactions between 2 people were worth a restraining order, however this is a flawed concept for 3 reasons
1: This is an online website, not a actual real life situation where there is provable and real world evidence of need to restrain a person from physical and emotional contact from another person.
2: Conflicts are only verbal, not physical. There can be escalation of verbal assault, abuse and harrassment to the point of potential doxxing or real world consequences. But in general a restraining order is not made in concept to restrain words, but physical contact.
3: bias dependent on moderators. And no, its not suppose to be, humans are naturally biased, why would a person have to contact a moderator to let them know they dont want someone talking to them? You introduce a human element that affects bias and communications that dont need to be had, and will shape their opinions of others, because they do not have the same training and neutrality as a real life judge has.
That being said, blocking someone should be more inclusive to fulfilling these needs, by simply writing the code to make it where you dont see the posts of the other person. This is a website under free speech (supposedly) so it doesnt dictate that a person MUST speak to people they disagree with, much less to have that disagreement to be interpreted by a 3rd party.
My suggestion is just to make blocking all inclusive, where you cant debate with them, cant private message them, and cant see their comments on forums. This will remove the need for bias and judgement on both sides, and you wont have as many complaints regarding spamming, trolling and other issues, as the people can block them.
And if they feel like its a personal attack, they can choose to be more civil and kind, or choose to leave.
Your posts and history make it clear you dislike the republican party via trump.
You can find 1000 things wrong, but i wonder, can you find 10 things right?
Its part of the process. This is nothing new. Its just new for this generation and left leaning people.
If people are processed fairly, there is inconvience, yes. But after a week or 2 the mimimal inconvience is mitigated.
Unless you happen to be illegal.
And if you are fired from a job because of a government force attempting to enforce law, you can persue legal action against that company, or at minimum talk to the agency involved.
I Am not Just his follower. Do not assert what i am in christ. Or there will be no more discussions between us.
Donald trump doesnt support a one world nation. He supports america first.
Define death.
I define death as seperation from God. In which case, yes, death is certain for many, but not all.
I serve one who created me and tells me who i am.
I serve the one who died for me when i was his enemy and worthy of punishment.
I serve the one who saved me from addiction, suicide and loneliness. One who isnt dictated by my feelings or my thoughts.
I serve the Lord Jesus Christ.
And i am gladly his slave and his prisoner, as well as his brother, and a son of God.
"Even though many people are tagged, the above argument is more or less your argument."
Not even. Sudan would wipe out nambian like a cake walk.
