whiteflame

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/20/2026 at 9:29 PM (post #632)

I'm link. And I am the caroler. I can give somebody a carol which gives them 3 names. One of which is scum. I also like whiteflame thought Mikal was unlikely to be killed so I gave him the carol.

I also asked him if he was visiting anyone because I was told that if I gave somebody a carol but they visited another than it would fail.

So unless Mikal lied to me and did visit somebody he will have the three people and we know one of which will be scum

Now that's interesting. Care to comment, Mikal?

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 6:39 PM (post #618)

is anyone suspicious that no one has claimed link yet?

That had crossed my mind, yes.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 6:25 PM (post #614)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 6:24 PM (post #612)

Actually, this has gone on long enough already with Rex absent, so I’ll just spill it.

I’m the reason Mikal and Rex are in a chat together. I’m the Architect. My character is Jim, part of the Bombers Secret Society of Justice. Hated chasing these little fuckers around Clock Town. He engineers a specific test for Link, letting him into their secret base. The justification says that he put someone in touch with someone else (not the strongest, since Link mainly wanted a notebook).

Ok fair. Why mikal and rex?

Long story short: I figured they were least likely to die in the night. Mikal had already full claimed a role that would have no extra utility going forward and Rex had at least character claimed. I figured with the Tailor, scum would go for someone unclaimed and I wanted to get my role off for certain.

Brief aside, I learned during the NP that my role was actually supposed to be written for day use, but it was written as a night action. So if I’d been able to do it during the DP, my targets both would’ve spent more time in chat and I could have selected by other criteria. Oh well…

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 6:18 PM (post #611)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 6:17 PM (post #610)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 6:15 PM (post #609)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 6:15 PM (post #608)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 6:13 PM (post #606)

Of those 4, whiteflame gives me 3p vibies

I’ve said it already: if I was the TP, I would have full claimed last DP in hopes of changing the way TPs who can win with town are treated. I’m not the TP.

That all depends. 3p could have their own win con they need to meet before they. can win with town ro scum which is why they're staying hidden

I said as much already as well. Even if that were the case, I’d still have claimed, with omissions. Whoever is the TP cost themselves the opportunity to claim and get any towncred for doing so.

Agreed.

That said, you claimed to have a confirmable role. I'd lovve to hear more since you're around

See above.

Actually, this has gone on long enough already with Rex absent, so I’ll just spill it.

I’m the reason Mikal and Rex are in a chat together. I’m the Architect. My character is Jim, part of the Bombers Secret Society of Justice. Hated chasing these little fuckers around Clock Town. He engineers a specific test for Link, letting him into their secret base. The justification says that he put someone in touch with someone else (not the strongest, since Link mainly wanted a notebook).

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 6:15 PM (post #609)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 6:15 PM (post #608)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 6:13 PM (post #606)

Of those 4, whiteflame gives me 3p vibies

I’ve said it already: if I was the TP, I would have full claimed last DP in hopes of changing the way TPs who can win with town are treated. I’m not the TP.

That all depends. 3p could have their own win con they need to meet before they. can win with town ro scum which is why they're staying hidden

I said as much already as well. Even if that were the case, I’d still have claimed, with omissions. Whoever is the TP cost themselves the opportunity to claim and get any towncred for doing so.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 6:13 PM (post #606)

Of those 4, whiteflame gives me 3p vibies

I’ve said it already: if I was the TP, I would have full claimed last DP in hopes of changing the way TPs who can win with town are treated. I’m not the TP.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 6:06 PM (post #598)

Since we basically know rex's role its' time for you to claim. You stated you could be confirmed. I want your claim next

I won’t say why, I’ll let Mikal and Rex sort it out, but I can confirm that you do not know Rex’s role. I’ll leave it at that.

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/20/2026 at 2:05 PM (post #577)

Are we humoring a mass claim given it's mylo or not?

It’s practically a given.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 1:12 PM (post #567)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 1:06 PM (post #566)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 12:50 PM (post #561)

If you can kill me just do it. It will confirm Luna’s results and I can get out of playing with these retards.

Can we not do this? It really doesn’t matter to me whether you’re scum or not, this kind of response just kills any enjoyment. Don’t be defeatist, just wait for whatever info Mikal says he has to come out. We’re not breaking out the torches and pitchforks yet.

FWIW I really don’t trust anything from Mikal when he says stuff like “The mod told me x.” I’ve seen him fake that shit as both town and scum.

Haven't decided if I trust him, either.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 12:50 PM (post #561)

If you can kill me just do it. It will confirm Luna’s results and I can get out of playing with these retards.

Can we not do this? It really doesn’t matter to me whether you’re scum or not, this kind of response just kills any enjoyment. Don’t be defeatist, just wait for whatever info Mikal says he has to come out. We’re not breaking out the torches and pitchforks yet.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 12:01 PM (post #557)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:57 AM (post #553)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:45 AM (post #548)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:41 AM (post #547)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:14 AM (post #542)

He sounds like a watcher tracker hybrid more like

Yeah, I initially read that as just Tracker, but looking back, it does both. Some crossover in roles does seem to be going on, but that’s a pretty direct CC.

Only reason I’m not attacking it is because Mikal said there was a tailor. Just a weird tailor choice…

Weird to go ahead with the claim after the flip as well. He’d have had the character from the start of last DP, so his changing his pfp to fit doesn’t really move the needle for me.

True but he also might not have noticed the flip. He didn’t say anything about pie being a watcher even after claiming, not until it was brought up just now. Could be a case of a fake claim gone wrong. But I am very open to pie being tailored.

I’m thinking on it a bit. Kaepora does give out the Lens of Truth and reveals hidden secrets, but he’s more like a guide, revealing paths forward in the game. It’s not too much of a stretch, though.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 11:48 AM (post #549)

I also dont think that flip is tailored. Its written very similar to how shinings was

I’m less clear. Copying the way a PM is written takes work, but it’s not impossible, and scum have a strong incentive to push attention wherever they can this DP. Not a given that it’s tailored, but I can’t dismiss it either.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:45 AM (post #548)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:41 AM (post #547)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:14 AM (post #542)

He sounds like a watcher tracker hybrid more like

Yeah, I initially read that as just Tracker, but looking back, it does both. Some crossover in roles does seem to be going on, but that’s a pretty direct CC.

Only reason I’m not attacking it is because Mikal said there was a tailor. Just a weird tailor choice…

Weird to go ahead with the claim after the flip as well. He’d have had the character from the start of last DP, so his changing his pfp to fit doesn’t really move the needle for me.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:14 AM (post #542)

He sounds like a watcher tracker hybrid more like

Yeah, I initially read that as just Tracker, but looking back, it does both. Some crossover in roles does seem to be going on, but that’s a pretty direct CC.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 11:29 AM (post #544)

Also not going to say much. But im pretty sure rex is town. Can explain later but I can vouch for him atm. Does not lock him but credibility.

When I get home today ill spend some time on the wagons. Same people Who lynched shining were also on rex. I need to read every page in depth and think we all should full claim but poe is heavy on luna or wf. I think at least one scum is there and im leaning wf

Based on what you’ve said, all I’ll say for now is you’re welcome. I’ll let you sort out why.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:57 AM (post #539)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:54 AM (post #537)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:11 AM (post #534)

Okay so im very annoyed shining died. I fell asleep that night and he just got dog piled. His claim was sus but thats why I wanted the justification and full claim. Once he said he fan give a sword. Anyone that has ever played this game should have backed off. One because its lore accurate and 2 because it was confirmable. Scum was on that lynch. Need to fully catch up but I am heavy heavy sus on wf.

He called out that shininga role was accurate and just lynched him cus "no other choice" knowing that the role could be confirmed. Worse case we went to a nl and the vig he passed out could offset the no lynch. If he was lying. He died today anyway.

I want to look at that wagon heavily

The choice was between splitting the vote on choices that no one liked because they were all weak behavioral reads (with Pie dead, it's pretty obvious he would have been a bad choice too) and picking what looked like a pretty clear CC. Much as I would have preferred a NL too, that wasn't an option. Go ahead and sus me for it, but that was literally everyone's thinking on that lynch.

Also, anything happen during the NP? Results?

I might as well lay out my claim and result just to get it out of the way.

I’m a watcher. Justification is I watch the stars. I’ve been softing this with my profile picture and banner.

I watched banana. Since they claimed they would possibly be a target either for a role block or kill. I got no one visited them except for myself.

Alright, figured you were heavily implying you were Professor Shikashi, and Watcher tracks for someone literally running the observatory.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:11 AM (post #534)

Okay so im very annoyed shining died. I fell asleep that night and he just got dog piled. His claim was sus but thats why I wanted the justification and full claim. Once he said he fan give a sword. Anyone that has ever played this game should have backed off. One because its lore accurate and 2 because it was confirmable. Scum was on that lynch. Need to fully catch up but I am heavy heavy sus on wf.

He called out that shininga role was accurate and just lynched him cus "no other choice" knowing that the role could be confirmed. Worse case we went to a nl and the vig he passed out could offset the no lynch. If he was lying. He died today anyway.

I want to look at that wagon heavily

The choice was between splitting the vote on choices that no one liked because they were all weak behavioral reads (with Pie dead, it's pretty obvious he would have been a bad choice too) and picking what looked like a pretty clear CC. Much as I would have preferred a NL too, that wasn't an option. Go ahead and sus me for it, but that was literally everyone's thinking on that lynch.

Also, anything happen during the NP? Results?

Like Luna, I’ll leave it to others to confirm my night action, then I’ll full claim.

I'm going to head off here as well, need to get some sleep.

I'm just not seeing much choice beyond the obvious.

VTL: Shining

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/19/2026 at 12:09 AM (post #440)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/18/2026 at 10:08 PM (post #437)

Regardless, we're back to uncertain territory, particularly with that Tingle claim. I figured it was almost a given he's here, got a couple of ideas of what his role could be and I don't think it's likely he's TP, so I'm willing to set Rex aside as a possible lynch this DP.

Shining might just have to be it.

I am definitely going back to shining unless someone has a solid case against literally anyone else. I don't see that happening.

My thinking on Pie is just too loose to be actionable at this point. That just leaves Shining as the obvious one out.

Regardless, we're back to uncertain territory, particularly with that Tingle claim. I figured it was almost a given he's here, got a couple of ideas of what his role could be and I don't think it's likely he's TP, so I'm willing to set Rex aside as a possible lynch this DP.

Shining might just have to be it.

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 8/19/2026 at 12:03 AM (post #425)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/18/2026 at 11:58 PM (post #416)

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 8/18/2026 at 11:54 PM (post #405)

Why am I even being voted? Whatever, this is fucking retarded. If you want to let lazy scum lynch me DP1 like they always do you can lose.

Seriously, dude, participate. It's a 3 DP game and there's no wiggle room for people to just be absent for long stretches. Claim and let's make some actual progress.

If it's a 3DP game and lynching scum is so important randomly lynching a relatively inactive DP1 player is even more of a dumb strategy. I've reacted to the few pages I had available at the time and gave my reads.

The reads were... loose, to say the least. It's hard to get any insight into your thinking when you just place players and don't give much in the way of explanation. I get that inactivity happens, but let's not pretend that scum hasn't used opportunities to fly beneath the radar before.

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 8/18/2026 at 11:57 PM (post #411)

I'm Tingle. Not role claiming, you can lynch me if you want over that. I've done literally nothing to warrant being scum read. I'm working on no sleep and need to get up early tomorrow. If you want to lynch someone else whatever, I'll vote buy let me know soon.

That's... at least something. Let me think about this.

UNVOTE

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 8/18/2026 at 11:54 PM (post #405)

Why am I even being voted? Whatever, this is fucking retarded. If you want to let lazy scum lynch me DP1 like they always do you can lose.

Seriously, dude, participate. It's a 3 DP game and there's no wiggle room for people to just be absent for long stretches. Claim and let's make some actual progress.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/18/2026 at 11:48 PM (post #390)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/18/2026 at 9:43 PM (post #385)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/18/2026 at 11:38 PM (post #372)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/18/2026 at 11:36 PM (post #368)

So I don't want to bring in outside information, but Thoth wanted a quick game here and he wanted one that was town-sided, using the time limit as a way to give scum another potential wincon to awkwardly balance it. Not saying that makes the possibility of a Vig gifter and whatever Banana is more likely, but yeah, we should expect the game to be unbalanced. I think that's a given.

Hold up. The signup does say

There will probably be extra kills

UNVOTE

Damn, more information from the OP that I missed. The plural there seems like a hint, though it's unclear if all of those kills would be town.

I doubt it. Scum has got to have one or third party does. I am sure one of them is town though, and I believe banana.

I do, too. Not saying it's a good reason to trust Shining is town, and there's a risk that he could give a shot to scum if he is the TP, so I'm hesitant to just give him a pass.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/18/2026 at 11:38 PM (post #372)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/18/2026 at 11:36 PM (post #368)

So I don't want to bring in outside information, but Thoth wanted a quick game here and he wanted one that was town-sided, using the time limit as a way to give scum another potential wincon to awkwardly balance it. Not saying that makes the possibility of a Vig gifter and whatever Banana is more likely, but yeah, we should expect the game to be unbalanced. I think that's a given.

Hold up. The signup does say

There will probably be extra kills

UNVOTE

Damn, more information from the OP that I missed. The plural there seems like a hint, though it's unclear if all of those kills would be town.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 11:38 PM (post #371)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/18/2026 at 11:36 PM (post #367)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/18/2026 at 11:35 PM (post #366)

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/18/2026 at 11:34 PM (post #363)

It has to happen soon though because I need to sleep. I have a job. It might not be as lucrative as making pizzas but I have bills to pay

tbh you might be making more than me rn

I probably make more than both of you sitting on my ass in the office

You're Jewish so I'd assume as much.

Hey now, we can't all make that good scratch.

At least for now, my vote's going on Rex. If he's going to be gone much of the game, it's going to be a problem, and right now I have next to nothing to read from him and no reason to suspect that will change. I wouldn't agree with Kohai that his point earlier was TMI, but it felt kind of like a pointless interjection to make it seem like he was keeping track and giving thoughts.

Don't like what's going on with Shining and Banana, but I'd prefer to get some confirmation on the former's role and work from there before we lynch him.

VTL: RexFavilla