Wryly wrote:
I was like "everyone but Rex just going insane this game ig".
It was at Mikal's request. Dude wanted to have some fun and we went along with it for a bit. But long as you're good with going along with the strategy, we can go straight to the endgame.
The funniest part of this is that it will be the second time I've gotten to drag you into a TP win.
So yeah, I'll lay it all out.
I'm the TP. I wasn't lying about what my role did, save one caveat: I'm also the Cult Leader and everyone who accepts my offer is not only protected from the NK on that night, they're recruited to my cult. Currently, that includes everyone in the Mason chat, so Helz, Mikal and Pie. We determined that there's no reason to leave anyone else out of the fun at this point, hence the lack of a NK last night. As long as we VTNL and scum continue to waive the NK, I can recruit each of you over the following 3 nights. That means everyone's in the cult, and only two players have to be before we reach parity for the cultists to win. We win above all other factions, so it would be just the 7 of us taking home the W.
Helz wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
Helz wrote:
Totally separate issue but isn't it a little weird that some grown ass men simp over Sailor Moon? Like its 16 year old girls in miniskirts prancing around in a cartoon. Something about that should qualify people for a watch list.
That show is something else. Legitimately hilarious when it wants to be, and also not even close to the worst child exploitation in anime.
Do you think Anime inherently is geared towards sexualizing children? It seems like a disproportionate amount of them put teenage girls in high school in sexual outfits and situations as they act like a total child but somehow have giant tits and tiny skirts. Its something thats slightly kept me away from the shows.
Some even take it much further saying "Look at this obviously 8 year old girl. She is a 500 year old dragon so its ok...." and shit. It just feels immoral.
Ah, the immortal loli. Yes, sure, you're drawn to her because she's an ageless entity. Ignore the packaging...
Helz wrote:
Wryly wrote:
Grown men simp over a lot of young anime girls. I feel like for some of them it may just be a crush they've had since they were boys themselves and nostalgia keeps it going, but definitely a high potentiality for creepville there.
Fair. I do get that.
There was a moment in my life where I was a young lad and Space Jam came out. I have never once in my life been into a furry- But Lola bunny? She kinda had it going on.
I feel like grown up me needs to say yes if I meet a Lola at a cos play event and self high five over it. Duno if I should judge myself over wanting that rabbit but hey. Can you blame me? Somewhere in there there is a 12 year old Craig who saw a very fuckable bunny and has not forgotten it. Dont judge me >.<
No judgement, I grew up in that same era. From A Goofy Movie to Space Jam to Rescue Rangers, we all had our favorite anthropomorphic animated characters, and if you claim you didn't, stop lying to yourself.
Helz wrote:
Totally separate issue but isn't it a little weird that some grown ass men simp over Sailor Moon? Like its 16 year old girls in miniskirts prancing around in a cartoon. Something about that should qualify people for a watch list.
That show is something else. Legitimately hilarious when it wants to be, and also not even close to the worst child exploitation in anime.
Helz wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L3DnbeWWbg
I think we should hear this holy music in line with our consideration of our LGBTQ community. You need to love Jesus with your body and soul. Love him like you have never loved another man with every bit of yourself. A-Men. And Take those men within yourself in his name.
I would call upon Pastor WF to let us close in prayer.
*Organ music blares*
Oh loving, merciful, vengeful God.
We your flock who are arrayed before you commend your decision to let us live to see another day and teach the heathen scum to truly love Jesus with all their hearts, minds and bodies. And I mean really get in there, have some fun with it. Because surely, when Jesus went into Nazareth on a donkey he must have looked fine as hell. Who could say no to that, or to a second or third coming? Body of Christ indeed! We only regret that Thoth, Kohai and Wylted cannot be here to enjoy the experience with us, as all are welcome to get up in that.
A-Men.
Honestly, I just can't see Mikal being this blatant about such a strange role, and the virtual confirmation that he was the target of the NK at least one of the last two nights means I'm hard townreading him. I'll still wait to hear from Rex about all this before posting a vote.
Wryly wrote:
Jesus I'll unvote for now.
UNVOTE
But please, please fucking vote me this DP. I'm begging you.
Considering Rex's flip would reveal whether your character cop was correct, that would still be informative, but I get where you're coming from.
Wryly wrote:
All right. We're at 4-2-1 right now. My powers are spent. Lynch me first, it will confirm my results. We'll still be at 3 town, 2 scum, 1 3P tomorrow. When I asked Lunatic if a 3P would count as town or scum for parity, he told me he usually counts 3P as town; confirm this with him yourself.
VTL: Wryly
Please remove the vote, I'd at least like to work this out before we execute on a lynch.
Wryly wrote:
*facepalm*
I am at a loss for words at how blind you all are.
My eyes have been opened to a truth I did not see. Now it's just a question of whether Meow is bussing his partner or you're scum. Still thinking on that.
Wryly wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
Mikal wrote:
Can we stop baiting now. We have the solve lol
It does seem pretty obvious to me, but I want Rex to get in here and explain himself first.
My god. Are you actually considering this?
Mechanically, I kind of have to.
Mikal wrote:
Can we stop baiting now. We have the solve lol
It does seem pretty obvious to me, but I want Rex to get in here and explain himself first.
Wryly wrote:
I doubt you were, unfortunately.
Ability paraphrase:
The + represents a catch-all of inclusion. Anyone who wants to join your community is welcome to. Why the hell not? Everyone is in your group, including the group that voted on the DP1 lynch. You get to sensor it to see how many mafia it included. Inclusion!
Result: Two mafia were on Kohai's wagon.
Kohai (7/7): Mikal, RexFavilla, Thoth, Helz, Ultracrepidarian, Banana, wylted
So that would make Rex or Mikal scum, correct?
Wryly wrote:
I'M ALIVE LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
whiteflame was that you boi ❤️
Figured scum might try for a less obvious target, seems I was right.
Well, second time in a row I protected Mikal and there was no NK. Can't imagine scum passed on another opportunity to end the game.
Wryly wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
Fair take. I balance them a little differently because Meow is so new to the site and it's harder to read him behaviorally, since he seems willing to just go off and do his own thing on a whim. Ultra's absence is more clearly behaviorally damning since his absence is a large part of why attention has consistently been drawn elsewhere. Don't tend to scumread lack of interaction, but this is excessive.
I initially townread his whimsy, and the fact that he told me to vote Mikal DP2. But after he told me everything he does is deliberate, I reconsidered. His votes were only ever on Kohai, me, Rex, and wylted. Three people I know are town and one I strongly believe is.
His votes have not looked great, I agree.
I remain confused as to which mechanic is the lie, since the flips so far seem to indicate 2 is the lie and the presence of fake claims indicates 3 is the lie.
We're thinking similarly about this. Numbers 1 and 4 I've basically written off as true. There's almost certainly at least one more Vanilla between Rex and Ultra (almost certainly the former), which would satisfy 5. If it's 2, then I have to question what scum would cover up among the flips we've seen (can't say I've seen anything obvious, either, though they could just be holding it in reserve), and if it's 3, then I'd have to wonder why scum even bothered fake claiming their characters, due to the lack of a theme split. I can at least see a cognizant scum fake claiming something other than Germans with a known Jew in play, but the rest... well, I'm waiting for at least one scum flip to get an idea of that.
Wryly wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
I’m fine with letting this discussion play out so I won’t post a vote just yet. That being said, both Ultra and Meow are scum from where I’m sitting by a combination of POE and a lot of problems with both their claims. I get Wryly’s point about Meow in particular, but as I called out as the reason I was VTLing Ultra in DP2, it’s not just an issue of a bland claim and lack of presence in this and the previous DP. Ultra’s Vanilla claim isn’t the problem, it’s the specifics beyond that. No one else has claimed a generation subset as their character, posting an AI-generated version that conspicuously lacked text present in everyone else’s Vanilla justification, and then justifying it by saying that he fed it random pieces of his PM that conveniently excluded it. Dude doesn’t have a lot of posts to read, but a lot of them stand out, as does his almost complete lack of reads in the two DPs he showed up for.
I had forgotten that and I take your point. I don't think the generation outlier is conclusive, but the lack of Lunatician vanilla wording was conspicuous. Still not as much as we have on MeowMix imo.
Fair take. I balance them a little differently because Meow is so new to the site and it's harder to read him behaviorally, since he seems willing to just go off and do his own thing on a whim. Ultra's absence is more clearly behaviorally damning since his absence is a large part of why attention has consistently been drawn elsewhere. Don't tend to scumread lack of interaction, but this is excessive.
I’m fine with letting this discussion play out so I won’t post a vote just yet. That being said, both Ultra and Meow are scum from where I’m sitting by a combination of POE and a lot of problems with both their claims. I get Wryly’s point about Meow in particular, but as I called out as the reason I was VTLing Ultra in DP2, it’s not just an issue of a bland claim and lack of presence in this and the previous DP. Ultra’s Vanilla claim isn’t the problem, it’s the specifics beyond that. No one else has claimed a generation subset as their character, posting an AI-generated version that conspicuously lacked text present in everyone else’s Vanilla justification, and then justifying it by saying that he fed it random pieces of his PM that conveniently excluded it. Dude doesn’t have a lot of posts to read, but a lot of them stand out, as does his almost complete lack of reads in the two DPs he showed up for.
I'll do what I can to interact today, but I spent much of the night up with my dog trying to help him through a bout of stomach problems, so if my thoughts don't make sense or I conk out for a bit, you'll know why.
Wryly wrote:
In all due time I will. Just have a little faith. Right now we’re on the same side, but I need to know the whole picture to solve.
You're not the detective, you're a potential suspect, and I find myself unmotivated to clarify the last of my role when you have yet to clarify the beginning of yours. It *is* your turn, you know.
But like I said, I'll spill if it becomes a sticking point to enough people. @whiteflame @Helz @Rex, lmk if it has. I'd like to starve scum of information, but not at the expense of town trust.
I have my uncertainties, but I'm split on the decision. You're not my priority this DP, so I'll leave it at that.
MeowMix wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Or wait this is a long shot. Are you actually the Mason and have been lying about it?
I am not. Mikal has the right of it, and it’s been verified by Pie.
Fwiw, I’m still puzzling things out. Meow still hasn’t pointed to the post he LD’d from me, which should be easy to find given that he would have posted it in chat with Luna. His choice of me is odd generally, but that detail sticks out a lot.
As for Wryly, the lack of an NP1 night action in the post describing her role and night actions concerns me, as does a couple of apparent pseudo-CCs. That plus keeping at least one other role secret makes her questionable, since it could either be a way to avoid a more direct CC or a legitimate way to keep something that could be useful under wraps.
Well obviously it was your claim.
So you’re townreading me entirely over an accurate character claim? Really? I find that an odd choice given one of the mechanics was that there isn’t a theme split, so scum have incentive to just straight claim their characters.
RexFavilla wrote:
Or wait this is a long shot. Are you actually the Mason and have been lying about it?
I am not. Mikal has the right of it, and it’s been verified by Pie.
Fwiw, I’m still puzzling things out. Meow still hasn’t pointed to the post he LD’d from me, which should be easy to find given that he would have posted it in chat with Luna. His choice of me is odd generally, but that detail sticks out a lot.
As for Wryly, the lack of an NP1 night action in the post describing her role and night actions concerns me, as does a couple of apparent pseudo-CCs. That plus keeping at least one other role secret makes her questionable, since it could either be a way to avoid a more direct CC or a legitimate way to keep something that could be useful under wraps.
You're one of the most inquisitive people here that doesn't run their heads into the retard wall repeatedly. In fact you remind me of championship level players that I know. The same kind of player that can snow me if they get towncored. Unfortunately that's where the compliments end.
Your problem is the questions you ask are ephemeral and vapid sometimes, and you refuse to act on them. You don't say "yes I am town this is how I feel" and kill. I'm not sure why.
It makes the most sense to me to solve you first.
Alright, which post did you Lie Detect?
MeowMix wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
MeowMix wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
MeowMix wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Which means you're guaranteed scum and lying. If town isn't retarded this at least gives us a sure kill today.
You aren't even asking me what I lie detected from you dude. You're just squirming.
Wouldn’t you have had two uses? Banana died NP1. You should have gotten two NPs with the role.
You are correct. And you are also correct as to why it doesn't matter.
So then your NP2 target is dead. Who was it?
Going to have to insist on an answer. You had a second target. The results may not matter, but your choice does. Who was it and why did you pick them?
God damn I thought you could pick up context clues better than this. Who indeed whiteflame.
So then the obvious question: why pick me?
whiteflame wrote:
MeowMix wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
MeowMix wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Which means you're guaranteed scum and lying. If town isn't retarded this at least gives us a sure kill today.
You aren't even asking me what I lie detected from you dude. You're just squirming.
Wouldn’t you have had two uses? Banana died NP1. You should have gotten two NPs with the role.
You are correct. And you are also correct as to why it doesn't matter.
So then your NP2 target is dead. Who was it?
Going to have to insist on an answer. You had a second target. The results may not matter, but your choice does. Who was it and why did you pick them?
MeowMix wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
MeowMix wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Which means you're guaranteed scum and lying. If town isn't retarded this at least gives us a sure kill today.
You aren't even asking me what I lie detected from you dude. You're just squirming.
Wouldn’t you have had two uses? Banana died NP1. You should have gotten two NPs with the role.
You are correct. And you are also correct as to why it doesn't matter.
So then your NP2 target is dead. Who was it?
MeowMix wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Which means you're guaranteed scum and lying. If town isn't retarded this at least gives us a sure kill today.
You aren't even asking me what I lie detected from you dude. You're just squirming.
Wouldn’t you have had two uses? Banana died NP1. You should have gotten two NPs with the role.
MeowMix wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
MeowMix wrote:
Wryly wrote:
Fingers crossed he's town and can scavenge the abilities of the dead.
reparations motherfucker
Rex is scum
So you can take roles off the dead? Is that correct?
Yes I'm universal backup.
Justification?
MeowMix wrote:
Wryly wrote:
Fingers crossed he's town and can scavenge the abilities of the dead.
reparations motherfucker
Rex is scum
So you can take roles off the dead? Is that correct?
