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Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/22/2026 at 10:27 AM (post #299)
I thought I had voted for wylted at the start and I put my original vote and meant to put unvote after.
UNVOTE


I don't really get what you're saying here, either, beyond that you meant to put an unvote after the vote. Why shift to Wylted if you were just going to unvote immediately?

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Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/22/2026 at 10:13 AM (post #294)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/22/2026 at 10:11 AM (post #292)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/22/2026 at 10:02 AM (post #288)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/22/2026 at 9:07 AM (post #287)
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/22/2026 at 8:33 AM (post #281)
I know we had the thought the scum could be attorneys/senators that ILikePie5 liked? do we have a lead on that theory yet, it's best to consider this.

The theme split is unclear. I think the broad assumption is that the split is between Republicans and Democrats, with the latter as scum, but there's always the possibility that Pie just took his favorite two Attorneys General and made them scum based on some other theme split. We don't have leads on theme splits because we only have one claimed character, but you can draw conclusions based on your own PM and Wylted's claim for now

This is true.

I siooose I can soft my character just to get a feel for the theme split: My character is consideeed by some to be a RINO.

Alright, that's at least something to work off of. From what I've gathered so far, most Attorneys General (I believe 27) are Republican. No one has said yet whether they're a Democrat, so I think it's plausible that it's a Republican vs. Democrat theme split, though could always be different flavors of Republicans with no Democrats. I don't believe mine would be classified by anyone as a RINO.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/22/2026 at 10:03 AM (post #289)
If multiple characters are RINOs / RINO types then maybe that puts Wylted?

Again, not really considering Wylted as a lynch possibility right now, and I don't believe the split is just RINO's/moderates vs. MAGA Republicans, though that is still a possibility.

In MAGa mafia everyone was a republican


Yeah, the theme split there was straight MAGA vs. those who were previously opposed to MAGA. Don't believe it'll be that straightforward this time, but if it is, the RINO label is going to be more of a problem for you from where I'm sitting.

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I'd really prefer not to default to a VTNL, but it doesn't seem like we're coalescing around any lynch options. I've given my reads so far, and I'd like to get at least some indication of everyone's preferences before we get too close to the end of the DP.

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Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/22/2026 at 10:02 AM (post #288)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/22/2026 at 9:07 AM (post #287)
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/22/2026 at 8:33 AM (post #281)
I know we had the thought the scum could be attorneys/senators that ILikePie5 liked? do we have a lead on that theory yet, it's best to consider this.

The theme split is unclear. I think the broad assumption is that the split is between Republicans and Democrats, with the latter as scum, but there's always the possibility that Pie just took his favorite two Attorneys General and made them scum based on some other theme split. We don't have leads on theme splits because we only have one claimed character, but you can draw conclusions based on your own PM and Wylted's claim for now

This is true.

I siooose I can soft my character just to get a feel for the theme split: My character is consideeed by some to be a RINO.


Alright, that's at least something to work off of. From what I've gathered so far, most Attorneys General (I believe 27) are Republican. No one has said yet whether they're a Democrat, so I think it's plausible that it's a Republican vs. Democrat theme split, though could always be different flavors of Republicans with no Democrats. I don't believe mine would be classified by anyone as a RINO.


Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/22/2026 at 10:03 AM (post #289)
If multiple characters are RINOs / RINO types then maybe that puts Wylted?


Again, not really considering Wylted as a lynch possibility right now, and I don't believe the split is just RINO's/moderates vs. MAGA Republicans, though that is still a possibility.

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Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/22/2026 at 8:33 AM (post #281)
I know we had the thought the scum could be attorneys/senators that ILikePie5 liked? do we have a lead on that theory yet, it's best to consider this.


The theme split is unclear. I think the broad assumption is that the split is between Republicans and Democrats, with the latter as scum, but there's always the possibility that Pie just took his favorite two Attorneys General and made them scum based on some other theme split. We don't have leads on theme splits because we only have one claimed character, but you can draw conclusions based on your own PM and Wylted's claim for now.


Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/22/2026 at 9:03 AM (post #285)
Does banana prefer to post at night, if so I can't see them unless I go back?


Usually, yeah. Not always. You can go back through previous games and see where she's posted, but she's been pretty consistent this game at least.

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Originally Posted by Banana on 10/22/2026 at 7:13 AM (post #277)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/22/2026 at 3:37 AM (post #274)

Originally Posted by Banana on 22/10/2026 at 5:11 (post #258)

Originally Posted by wylted on 10/21/2026 at 4:24 PM (post #223)
So right now I am down for pressuring Noah and lynching Kohai

Where is everyone at?
im just curious why mag is lying
Lying about what? My role? Why specifically are you interested in this? It’s not like it’s a big mystery, Whiteflame told us we shouldn’t claim, so I did.

??? u lied cuz whiteflame said so?


He was pretty blatant about doing it just for the lols. This was never a believable claim and people have been monkeying around since the start of the DP. And yeah, I saw it as a bit of a jab, but a playful one.

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Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/22/2026 at 4:56 AM (post #272)
I am not even sold on the Ken Paxton claim. I could imagine Pie leaving him out of the game because mentioning him in the OP makes the claim seem confirmable, and scum have a lot of questions to spare.


Eh, disagree. Yes, they have four questions to ask, but you don't look at that and say "hey, let's check on the first one Pie posted about in the OP and see if he's really here," especially since that means either sacrificing a role or character check for what seems like it should be obvious. Not saying it's impossible, but it's pretty unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/22/2026 at 4:40 AM (post #268)
Let me tell you a atory. In the 1980s, A&W Restaurants started selling a third-pounder burger to compete with other chains’ quarter-pounder burgers. It failed because so many people thought a third pound was less than a quarter pound because three is less than four. That is how informed most people are. So never feel ashamed to have your own opinions. You can’t be stupider than the average adult.


Heard that story before and it's true. Denominators, man, people just can't divide.

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Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/22/2026 at 4:26 AM (post #262)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/21/2026 at 11:55 AM (post #188)
Banana hasn't really stood out from her early posts. I'm tempted to lightly townread her based on her late entrance into the game, since I suspect she'd have been pinged repeatedly on Discord if she was scum.
Banana is nocturnal, ain’t she? So probably NAI. Daylight come an me wan go home


Yeah, that's been my experience, though even so, her activity has been pretty sporadic. Not saying that's pertinent to the read, just noticeable.

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Alright, we've got to put the focus somewhere. I can see the logic behind putting it on Noah just because we might catch him out, but it's a pretty weak reason to do it. He's pretty null to me after all this. I have an easier time understanding the logic behind pushing Kohai, in large part because I agree with Rex that it's kind of weird for him to just kind of give up on any scumhunting with no explanation and VTNL. I don't get the reasoning there, and I haven't seen Kohai explain himself, he just shifted to Wylted when it was convenient and hasn't returned to that decision since.


Apart from them:


I'm feeling pretty middling on Thoth. Not a lot of posting and what we've gotten so far is some light breadcrumbing that makes me tilt town and a strong focus on Noah that makes me tilt scum, so it settles into null.


With Wylted's character claim, I see no reason to even consider him as a lynch this DP. Could be scum dependent on the split, but I'm not entertaining that DP1.


Luna hasn't posted enough to get a good read yet. Pushed back on the direction Wylted was taking the DP and VTL'd him. Didn't love the push for Banana's character, but I kind of get it if she wasn't going to be around much. Tempted to say this looks more town than not, and no, that's not because I think Pie would take pity on him if he rolled scum again.


On Magoroth, I'm slowly tilting towards town. Fake role card looks just a little too extra to be scum, though he was somewhat wishy washy on Wylted before VTLing him. Felt a little off to go from him seeing Wylted doing everything he has been as town to passively joining the wagon. It's more of a slight town gutread than anything else, just a feeling.


Rex noticed a thing about my avatar, spent some time on the Noah train, and has since taken a town view of Banana and refocused attention on the VTNLs, albeit without any pressure. Getting some light town vibes.


Not much has changed from Banana. Initially townread her absence just a bit, contributions look OK, though maybe she's a little overly focused on the obviously not real claim from Magoroth. Doesn't really move the needle. Dropping her in null for now.



So if we want to get a claim, it's either Noah or Kohai for me, with the latter getting more of my attention atm.


VTL Kohai

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Originally Posted by wylted on 10/21/2026 at 8:47 PM (post #251)
I'm obviously not confirmed town. For all we know the scum team is pies favorite attorney generals.


Yeah, can't say you're confirmed, just almost certain your character is in this game.

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Originally Posted by wylted on 10/21/2026 at 8:10 PM (post #239)
I guess with 3 votes I can claim my character.

Let's move on afterwards.

I am Ken Paxton. Now let's get an actual lynch target please


Yup, especially given Pie’s statement in the OP, that’s pretty likely to be real.

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Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/21/2026 at 5:19 PM (post #205)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 21/10/2026 at 17:26 (post #181)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/21/2026 at 11:24 AM (post #180)
VTNL

Any particular reason or is this just feeling resigned to it? We do have about 35 hours left in the DP.
I am unvoting, or at least that is what I wanted to do. I don’t want to vote you seeing as you have multiple votes and dont seem particularly scummy


Alright. They’re a little different, but didn’t seem like you were pushing for a VTNL, so I’ll take that explanation.


I hardclaim Town Reality Bender. Here is my role card:

You have near unlimited control of your environment. These insects have no idea what they truly are, you have an infinite advantage.

Each night you may create a new mechanic. It may be from the list I provided, or you can make up your own! I will have to approve it however. 

You cannot die at night by any means.

The firat time you get lynched, the lynch fails. And instead lynches the last person to vote for you.

You are immune to disruption, and roleblock.

You receive additional information at game start.


Lol, man, someone needs to include this in a bastard game.

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Originally Posted by wylted on 10/21/2026 at 1:26 PM (post #189)
e? I get that you're just enjoying some banter otherwise, but it feels like there's nothing here to help me understand your logic.

That's it. There is t much logic to it. Just something in my gut. I guess I felt like I sensed some fear from you concerning a full claim from Noah and it made me think that perhaps there could be something here if you got stuck with that scum mate.

Mostly gut. I want to see where it takes me


That's fine, but I did clarify earlier in the DP that I think we should be pretty restrictive on the number of claims we got this DP. That applies to everyone, not just him, and it's still informative to get a partial claim while not pushing for too much information too early.

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Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/21/2026 at 12:40 PM (post #187)
like do you have anything about them?


Banana hasn't really stood out from her early posts. I'm tempted to lightly townread her based on her late entrance into the game, since I suspect she'd have been pinged repeatedly on Discord if she was scum.


Magoroth's VTNL has me second-guessing a gut townread from his early vote on me. It's weird this far out from the end of the DP to just post a vote not to lynch without explanation and provide little to no insight into his reads. Not a scumread yet, but he's back to neutral.

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Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/21/2026 at 12:29 PM (post #184)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/21/2026 at 9:08 AM (post #172)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/21/2026 at 9:19 AM (post #158)
This game has gone completely off the rails.

VTL wylted

Wouldn't put it past Wylted to just throw out some absurdities just to derail the DP, though that is his MO regardless. Trying to get into his mindset a little to get a read on him. But yeah, had enough fun for now, have to focus.
I mean I would expect a bit from him, but never seen him do this much of it, where it feels like 60% of the day phase has been non mafia related.


He has been pretty scattershot. I'd like to see how he responds to me first, but I might be willing to join the pressure.

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Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/21/2026 at 11:13 AM (post #177)
Wylted I feel is trying to create conflict to make us avoid him and focus on everybody else, just a theory tho?


It's possible. Wylted tends to hop into games like this that involve anything political and just throw out takes that will get a lot of attention, that's usually regardless of his affiliation. Worth considering why he's doing it this time.

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Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/21/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #174)
I mean I could look it up, but y'all are the ones who brought it up??


By "y'all" you mean Wylted, right? Anyway, funny as this can be, I'd rather focus a bit on the game. Anything stand out to you so far?

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Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/21/2026 at 9:19 AM (post #158)
This game has gone completely off the rails.

VTL wylted


Wouldn't put it past Wylted to just throw out some absurdities just to derail the DP, though that is his MO regardless. Trying to get into his mindset a little to get a read on him. But yeah, had enough fun for now, have to focus.

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Originally Posted by wylted on 10/21/2026 at 6:56 AM (post #123)
unvote VTL WHITEFLAME

no I'm not taking you because there is nothing to defend.

Currently, I think the scum team might be whiteflame and either banana or that turning point kid who is probably like unironically a conservative so likely has stupid political opinions like we should have some level of border security or some other insane shit like thinking we shouldn't transition 7 year olds and cut their dick off, as if kids are too stupid to know their own gender.


So... is there a reason for this scumread, or did I miss something? Also, any reason for the potential pairings here? I get that you're just enjoying some banter otherwise, but it feels like there's nothing here to help me understand your logic.

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Originally Posted by Banana on 10/21/2026 at 1:07 AM (post #111)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/20/2026 at 12:09 PM (post #67)
So I can't help but notice that you're the only person left who hasn't posted. Worth another ping and a little push.

VTL Banana

so sorry forgot about the game! ill catch up!


Hey, just glad you're in.


Unvote


Originally Posted by Banana on 10/21/2026 at 1:15 AM (post #113)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/19/2026 at 9:44 PM (post #18)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/19/2026 at 11:42 PM (post #15)
On a serious note - Can we please not make dozens of claims this DP?

I agree, I think claiming too much too early is mostly doing harm and taking the focus off of behavior.
do we have enough people who even know enough about the theme to make claiming useful?


Yes and no. No because I suspect I'm not the only one who doesn't know a whole lot about state Attorneys General, so you're right that claiming may not be immediately useful. Yes because this is readily available information and the possibility of a CC still exists. I recognize that there are 50 to choose from, but there's still a risk to scum fake claiming early.

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Apologies for my absence so far, I’ve got an appointment this morning and I’m functioning on close to two hours worth of sleep… not a great night. I’ll catch up and post later this morning.

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Originally Posted by wylted on 10/20/2026 at 8:34 PM (post #107)
Guys we will basically know instantly if Noah is scum if we just force a claim here, and he isn't going to ever be the NK so we either catch scum or shrink the scum pool for future DPs


Not super happy with just defaulting to the newbie, but like Kohai said, a character claim at least wouldn't be amiss.

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Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 10/20/2026 at 3:48 PM (post #100)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/20/2026 at 3:42 PM (post #98)
Originally Posted by wylted on 10/20/2026 at 2:42 PM (post #80)
Did you guys kill Charlie Kirk?
Maybe I can skip going over all of Candace arguments if you just confess

I'm offended that you think I'd be that obvious about it. We have space lasers for a reason.

I mean the footage of the assassination makes it fairly obvious


Damn, Charlie Kirk went harder than I remember... I mean... clearly doctored footage!

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Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 10/20/2026 at 3:07 PM (post #94)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/20/2026 at 2:52 PM (post #89)

Originally Posted by wylted on 10/20/2026 at 2:20 PM (post #68)
"Why me"

The Jews literally killed Charlie Kirk so it feels like you having a turning point logo in front of the Jewish flag on your profile is a way to mock my personal hero

Can confirm. I was the Jew that killed Charlie.

I saw him, he hurled a trident with a menorah tip at Charlie with such force that it phased through his body, leaving only a standard puncture wound.


And the puncture wound was deeper than it should have been, eight times as deep... the pieces are coming together...