Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/10/2026 at 8:36 PM (post #83)
Originally Posted by Banana on 8/10/2026 at 9:42 PM (post #75)
so if shinings info is correct, one of rex and whiteflame is scum. i was waiting for clarfiction from shining but hes not responding so i asked the mod, and he said adjact on the player list does mean "next" to you on the player list and he added that first and last slots also count as adjacent. so that means either what mag said is true, and the host decided to mess with shinings results pre game (i explained why i dont think that makes sense. the host sounds like he interferes with results only based on whose winning and losing).
or it means one of rex and wf are scum. rex seems to be claiming virgin.
so im going to sus wf here.
VTL wf
I can understand the logic here to an extent, but given what we know about Poisoning and Drunkenness and assuming that both yours and Shining's roles exist in the game, I don't get why you'd assume they aren't capable of being messed with. Especially with Drunkenness, Drunk is a prescribed role, and a modifier Thoth explicitly said was up to his discretion in the OP. I don't get why that implies later impacts, particularly with two investigative results available this DP.
its kind of a stretch to call mine an investigative, it just tells us how many factions there are. but the phrasing of the mod thingy makes it sound like it would interfere with results as the game goes on so why would there not be multiple investigatives anyway? the list of roles containts many of them. drunk is a role? huh where r u getting that
As for claiming the Virgin, if that's what Rex is doing, then setting aside the question of why he hasn't just outed himself already, there's not a good way to test it without risking a Town auto-lynch. If someone does test it and survives, then he's either lying or that person is scum... or an Outsider I guess. I'm a little unclear on this, since it seems like the explanation for Virgin restricts the effect solely to Townsfolk.
Also, I'd like an answer to my earlier questions if you get a chance.
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thoth accidently confirmed rex virgin to us lol
so if shinings info is correct, one of rex and whiteflame is scum. i was waiting for clarfiction from shining but hes not responding so i asked the mod, and he said adjact on the player list does mean "next" to you on the player list and he added that first and last slots also count as adjacent. so that means either what mag said is true, and the host decided to mess with shinings results pre game (i explained why i dont think that makes sense. the host sounds like he interferes with results only based on whose winning and losing).
or it means one of rex and wf are scum. rex seems to be claiming virgin.
so im going to sus wf here.
VTL wf
Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/10/2026 at 6:32 PM (post #58)
Originally Posted by Banana on 8/10/2026 at 8:30 PM (post #56)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/10/2026 at 6:10 PM (post #49)
Gonna start with something. Adding whiteflame to a chat
why? r u a minion and hes the demon?
Maybe maybe not ;)
On a serious note, I know wf better than anyone in the game and have no clue what to do so figured I'd start there.
dont know what to do? why not just talk to him in the open? we have a reasonable basis to suspect people who go into pm's at this point, so im going to be a lil sus of anyone just making random chats
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/10/2026 at 2:30 AM (post #32)
Well, most roles shouldn’t claim but these roles if claimed by someone who is about to be lynched will not look great for them. So it’s better if they claim now.
Especially that Saint thing which would instantly lose us the game if they get lynched
i dont disagree, just thought it was funny. anyways the only real utility to not having outsiders claim is maybe semi confirmation? there is less outsider roles to pull from in the list, so more than 1-2 those would probably be something to be suspicious of. if only like one person claims outsider tho, well its not "confirmed" but its pretty close to it. i think mafia claiming an outsider would be risky
"Okay, please stop claiming"
14 posts later
"The following roles should immediately claim"
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/10/2026 at 2:22 AM (post #26)
There’s gonna be a lot of signalling or faking scum/town reads as an excuse to get a group chat with a player lol
i was just about to say this. asked thoth and he said they dont start in a pm together. the demon knows the minions, the minions know the demon, the minions do not know each other tho. it would be beneficial for them to be in a pm together. so we might need to look at ppl trying to create chats for weird reasons.
its possible, but thats kind of an odd assumptun that pre game info would be messed with. not discounting it, but from the phrasing of the host it sounds like something that will impact investigations in the course of the game. but im open to that applying to pre game roles 2
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/10/2026 at 2:00 AM (post #18)
Apparently drunkenness is permanent and I imagine chosen by the host on night -1, there’s some shit like “you won’t know what role they thought they were if they were drunk”, which has to be night -1
Poisoning is a night ability, I don’t think it has to be any one of us tho it could be anyone in the game.
:In Blood on the Clocktower, the Storyteller (i.e., the game host, i.e., Thoth) has some discretion over what information players receive and how certain abilities work, with the goal of choosing the results that make the game the most fun or balanced, usually by helping whichever team is doing worse.
why does he phrase it like this then
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/10/2026 at 2:01 AM (post #19)
But yeah having read through the setup further it appears there are roles that interfere with investigative results, like that Spy thing
we can just be careful about taking results 2 seriously then, sounds like there is a lot of stuff that can mess with info
to add to that the op says that the host will do that to influence the game based on whose winning/losing, and its too early for him to have any reason to do that.
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/10/2026 at 1:54 AM (post #14)
If a player is Drunk or Poisoned, any information they receive from abilities is decided by the Storyteller, and non-investigative abilities do not work. The Storyteller may choose to give Drunk or Poisoned players true information. The Storyteller will not tell players when they are Drunk or Poisoned, and will go through the motions as though their abilities were functioning normally. Note that, in this script, Drunkenness lasts for the entire game, whereas Poisoning only lasts for a night and the following day. If a player uses a once-per-game ability while Poisoned, they may not use that ability again."
I think it’s borderline OP to have both Banana and Shining’s roles in the game. One of them is probably drunk I’d say. Or lying
is drunk and poisoning a pre game ability or night ability? bcuz if not pregrame it would have to be one of me you and shining who did the drunkening, assuming its something that can just be used at any time in the day phase
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/10/2026 at 1:53 AM (post #13)
Okay, please stop claiming. I think there’s a perfect way of gaming this setup.
We ALL start chats with whoever we are sure is Town, only two people per chat (three including Thoth, I guess). Then everyone claims their role privately to that person.
We don’t need scum knowing what roles are in the game. If necessary we can pressure people by forcing them to publicly claim
i agree with that plan. in my case of my role i dont think holding that info really hurt anyone since it didnt indicate a single person
shining is next to rex and whiteflame on the playerlist
Originally Posted by Shining on 8/10/2026 at 1:43 AM (post #8)
I am the Empath and was told that a player (singular) is Evil is adjacent to me in the player list.
can u explain what that means, like next you on on the player list, above or below?
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/10/2026 at 1:44 AM (post #9)
Are you overexplaining this because you’re scum and you’re lying or because you think people won’t believe you
no but in mafia the first thing ppl say when u claim early is "why did u claim so fast". im telling u why, cuz there is no reason not to with this role.
so im not familiar with this game. i have information tho and i dont see any reason not to tell it. im a chef, and i was told there is only one pair of evil players. i dont think there is any more utility to my role here so i dont see saying this publicly as a big risk
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you can go, sorry didnt know u were around still
casey can skip me if their around but havent seen them in awhile
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MVP: Banana
Banana came in clutch in the final DP, and the fact that she got minimal pushback for probably the scummiest town role I have ever designed was testament to how good her play was. I was fully expecting Wryly to win this one because Thoth had set himself up as such a perfect target due to his waffling on lynching Wylted DP2 while Wryly's vote was on him early. Banana put in the work to see through that. Great play, especially given the fact that she was coming back from several rounds of inactivity and replaced in halfway through.
wow first time ever getting mvp!! Ty for the comments
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/30/2026 at 9:08 PM (post #239)
GG guys. Weird having to sit so much of this game out, but well done Banana and Thoth coming in clutch.
gg unlucky with the lover death :/
so what was the second scum role, so we can finally solve JOAT-gate
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/30/2026 at 8:37 PM (post #234)
Originally Posted by Banana on 7/30/2026 at 10:35 PM (post #231)
also did u consider faking a result in one of us?
Sure, but after wylted's flip it would've been transparent. Thought it was better to try to create a fog of uncertainty.
definitely was better for me in reading u. not sure how Thoth would have taken it tho. I expected u to claim a result on me in entry and it be a 1 v 1 with u. I was surprised when that didn’t happen and it made me think u were actually town