Banana

Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 10:57 AM (post #174)

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 11:49 AM (post #170)

i get that you want me to engage with the pie tmi but i think your putting way too much weight on it. it doesn't change the bigger picture of why poe points to you and mago. rex's claim is stronger, mago fits the scum slot, and you had the chance to hammer mago but didnt.

i'm not saying you cant be town, but ur asking rex to ignore a pretty straightforward solve without really giving a reason to do so. i'm open to being wrong, but i need more than just another argument about how nobody is engaging with you.

So to be clear its less that I am putting a ton of weight on it and more that I keep bringing it up over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over-

Because nobody will fucking look at it and even consider it. Lol. Thats nuts. You guys can not all be scum. What the fuck.. How is it that I have made such a blatantly clear point and nobody even looks at it or talks about it? Why have we not looked at the mech breakdown of what roles fit? Why are we just going back and fourth as I am screaming at the town to just engage and do a tiny bit of sorting? I am uncomfortable with this gamestate. I do think Wylted is just lock scum and I am pretty lost as far as the other outside of that one indicator that you may be their partner. And nobody even wants to spend 3 minutes to look at it and acknowledge that its a point.

To be clear- Not a single person in this game has looked at Pie's ISO and said my point is reasonable. Or unreasonable. Or that I am flatly lying. Or anything. What the fuck? We are in Lylo. You can not all be scum. Why is nobody even bothering to look at these critical details?

if I have a specific point u want me to read and respond to in regards to pie, tag me specifically and ask me. u r kind of a long winded rant style poster so admittedly i dont really read all of ur posts or responses to everyone and sometimes just skim them, or try to go to the end to see the salient points. it would be kind of exhausting to read all of it and respond to everything in depth. pie wears me down by doing that all the time too and half the time i just don’t have the mental wherewithal to engage him because of it.

also I’m willing to discuss mech, there’s not like a ton i can say for it other than liking certain roles matching justifications but I’ll admit a couple of the roles in the graveyard wouldn’t have been my first guesses as matches to their respective characters

i think we're overlooking how many things actually stack up against mago here.

first, his early activity was pretty suspicious. he basically admitted that he was trying to blend in, which is a weird explanation to give when his initial plan wasnt even to claim soldier. he only really started becoming active once he was under pressure, which feels more reactive than genuine solving.

second, he tries to distance himself from wylted's hammer as if he wasnt equally responsible for it. he was voting there too. you cant just shift the blame onto wylted when you were participating in the exact same decision.

third, look at how he reacts when i vote him. instead of really addressing the reasons i gave, he immediately goes to telling rex to vote wylted or me if he dies. pretty convenient positioning for someone who supposedly has nothing to worry about.

and mechanically, the poe makes the most sense with mago here. rex's claim is stronger, and the alternative worlds require a lot more assumptions to work. we're not just voting mago because we have a vague bad feeling. we're voting him because his behavior, his positioning, and the mechanical situation all point in the same direction.

i dont think we need absolute certainty to make this vote. i think we need to recognize which world requires the fewest excuses, and thats the one where mago is scum.

i am willing to drop the “Helz is automatically his scum partner” argument for now, as i will probably weigh everything from scratch tomorrow anyway. and i admit i am prolly giving Rex more town cred than deserved

also for anyone worried about me being scum I would like to remind everyone that I have not been apart of any of the mislynches, so unless u think scum just was lucky town fell on their sword with only one scum max in each lynch u have to admit this is a compelling argument in my favor

i get that you want me to engage with the pie tmi but i think your putting way too much weight on it. it doesn't change the bigger picture of why poe points to you and mago. rex's claim is stronger, mago fits the scum slot, and you had the chance to hammer mago but didnt.

i'm not saying you cant be town, but ur asking rex to ignore a pretty straightforward solve without really giving a reason to do so. i'm open to being wrong, but i need more than just another argument about how nobody is engaging with you.

Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 10:20 AM (post #158)

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 11:13 AM (post #157)

what do u mean “play the game”? i understand wanting to have a long running debate with someone and argue ur case, but this isn’t really a situation where that applies. Wylted forced a situation that makes it more or less obvious when he voted for mag and he didn’t get insta hammered. the only scum team u can sell at the moment is me and Wylted being scum together, because that is the only way mago is innocent. and u aren’t going to convince me of that lol.

so the only person u can really appeal to here is Rex.

from my pov Rex not hammering means he is likely town. that or mago is his scum partner and he’s hoping to convince u to vote elsewhere, but then id have to buy there’s no miller with a cop and plus his character fits that really well. so that kind of just leaves u as the only partner that makes sense. u could have bought yourself towncred like Wylted said by hammering mago. would have at least muddied the waters going into tomorrow, tho i would prolly still have a hard time buying Rex as scum over u.

anyways if you are scum i get the frustration, but its not like we aren’t playing to our wincon here, from a mechanical standpoint is seems pretty obvious that u and mago r scum here. the most i could do for u is say that its at least possible that rex is scum as well. i will consider that going into tomorrow.

I mean I am actually digging in the thread referencing posts and making points. And it goes out the window. Nobody talks about it. I was not even hard set on you being scum but now I basically just have to hope that you are.

If you want to jump in and talk about it lets do that. Do you even see my point on you saying Pie D2 thought I was scum as unreasonable? Have you clicked on their ISO to see what I see there? I even put quotes in the thread. But you are not even addressing the issue and instead just defaulting to a focus on me not quick hammering Mag? This does not look good. This entire game has been starved for interaction and ending a Lylo without sorting people is ugly. At least I can sort Mag and consider them if you are engaging and playing the game but if your gona shut your brain off and say your gona lynch me regardless my only chance of winning changes. That is much less about what I am considering and much more about being forced to hope a slot is town that I am not even confident is and it sucks.

did u tag me in the post about the pie read? if not i likely didn’t know it existed. but also i am pretty sure i said he kind of seemed like he was scum reading you or interested in u i never said it was a hard read and thats also not the main reason i think you are scum, its mostly to do with Poe, plus Rex claim being stronger and u not hammering. the last scum can be easily identified next DP, so there really isnt a reason to not hammer here unless u are hoping for a happy lylo accident and town messing up. from ur pov me and mago have to be scum and u have to push rex to that, its the only chance u have at winning if ur scum, otherwise Rex would be hammered

what do u mean “play the game”? i understand wanting to have a long running debate with someone and argue ur case, but this isn’t really a situation where that applies. Wylted forced a situation that makes it more or less obvious when he voted for mag and he didn’t get insta hammered. the only scum team u can sell at the moment is me and Wylted being scum together, because that is the only way mago is innocent. and u aren’t going to convince me of that lol.

so the only person u can really appeal to here is Rex.

from my pov Rex not hammering means he is likely town. that or mago is his scum partner and he’s hoping to convince u to vote elsewhere, but then id have to buy there’s no miller with a cop and plus his character fits that really well. so that kind of just leaves u as the only partner that makes sense. u could have bought yourself towncred like Wylted said by hammering mago. would have at least muddied the waters going into tomorrow, tho i would prolly still have a hard time buying Rex as scum over u.

anyways if you are scum i get the frustration, but its not like we aren’t playing to our wincon here, from a mechanical standpoint is seems pretty obvious that u and mago r scum here. the most i could do for u is say that its at least possible that rex is scum as well. i will consider that going into tomorrow.

need anything from me? I kinda jus waiting on a hammer no rush but yeah my minds made up. also u not hammering basically confirms that Helz is the last scum so if mago scum and is lynched should be a win, unless I’m missing something. hmmm

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/9/2026 at 7:46 PM (post #123)

Originally Posted by Banana on 10/11/2026 at 3:03 (post #115)

VTL: Magoroth

if I’m wrong I’m sorry guys but out of Wylted and mago I have more problems with mago. i don’t like that he tried to pass his activity issues off as trying to blend in, after his initial plan wasn’t to even claim soldier so it was a wierd strategy. his early lack of participation was sus and he only got active after getting in the hot seat for it. i also don’t like him passing the blame for wylteds hammer when he was voting wryly as well, and just as culpable. i just haven’t felt right about mago this game idk. if im wrong i guess we lose.

we can figure out helz tomorrow

Banana voting me what a surprise. Considering her claim is iffy as fuck I’m not surprised one bit.

@Rex vote Wylted or Banana if I die today and somehow. the game doesn’t end.

pot calling kettle black, vanilla is way less scummy than ur role

But whoever wins and looses can we please chill the fuck out? This type of hostility is very unnecessary and I want to enjoy experiences with people. Not feel like I am getting called a retard when I have probably played more games of Mafia than every player in this entire lobby combined.

wylted is jus a lil amped up right now, ignore him

VTL: Magoroth

if I’m wrong I’m sorry guys but out of Wylted and mago I have more problems with mago. i don’t like that he tried to pass his activity issues off as trying to blend in, after his initial plan wasn’t to even claim soldier so it was a wierd strategy. his early lack of participation was sus and he only got active after getting in the hot seat for it. i also don’t like him passing the blame for wylteds hammer when he was voting wryly as well, and just as culpable. i just haven’t felt right about mago this game idk. if im wrong i guess we lose.

we can figure out helz tomorrow

also details matter. if someone can find a game of lunas where he used pgo it could help me decide about Helz more but I’d rather not go Helz on a blind assume

idk on paper helz claim is a bit sus but i think id rather go mago since its less of a gamble since we already know one of him and u is scum.

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/9/2026 at 5:56 PM (post #79)

if lunatic put a PGO in the game and he has multiple times. he has always made them compulsive and so do most people here. and every site I looked at lists PGOs as being compulsive.

so if it exists in the game

1. it would be compulsive
2. there would be significantly less visiting roles

what game of his has a PGO?

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/9/2026 at 6:01 PM (post #81)

What the fuck even is this game. A non-compulsory PGO? Never seen that on any mafia site. It is probably one of the most SOP roles in the game to claim for that reason.

hmm have to agree, but if it is non compulsory maybe that balances it more?

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/9/2026 at 5:56 PM (post #79)

if lunatic put a PGO in the game and he has multiple times. he has always made them compulsive and so do most people here. and every site I looked at lists PGOs as being compulsive.

so if it exists in the game

1. it would be compulsive
2. there would be significantly less visiting roles

what game of his has a PGO?

mago is prolly scum here but I want helz claim before we hammer

as much as i don’t like wylteds vote on wryly his vote is in character for him, id see him doing that either affiliation.

for soldier not bulletproof

u are the last to claim sir

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/9/2026 at 12:37 PM (post #22)

Originally Posted by wylted on 09/11/2026 at 20:25 (post #21)

I suspect you are the other scum. I don't know. I don't care but I am not removing my vote so your hand is forced. you're going to have to decide between me and mago. if the lynch is successful and you aren't on it than it's going to look extremely suspicious though.

VTL Wylted

this is obviously scum wylted. Speed hammers and then immediately votes at LyLo.

also I am not actually Bulletproof, I am Soldier hut I wanted yo avoid claiming this because I wS hoping scum wohld buy the wifom and target someone else. Thank you all for making me claim

whats the justification for bulletproof

well everyone has posted recently except helz i think so there must be 1 scum between mago and Wylted

any ways ill bbl, i kinda sus everyone. this is a rough lylo

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/9/2026 at 10:28 AM (post #12)

Originally Posted by Banana on 09/11/2026 at 18:11 (post #6)

i didnt even realize wryly was being lynched, that whole thing really took me off guard. i think there was one or two scum on that wagon. actually everyone alive was on that wagon except me so idk

Wylted is uber scummy for this, he dropped the fucking hammer and he likes big dick plays as scum, I think hes prolly it. Dunno who 2nd is

u were also on the wagon tho. But yeah honestly not a surprising move for wylted to do. i think rexs vote was the scummiest one on that tho

i havent seen the majestic

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/9/2026 at 10:26 AM (post #9)

I’m Peter Appleton, because people think I’m a war hero I am Bulletproof. I won’t reveal how many shots I have left but it is X-shot. Popcorn Wylted

hol up doc and a bp?! also its obvious how many shots ud have left cuz no night kill was prevented. unless there was a vig or something which doesnt make sense balance wise. who do u sus most rn and why?

also pie seemed semi sus of helz last dp, worth noting. not sure if he was killed for who he sussed or if they were pr hunting tho

we popcorn the claims. mago can choose who goes next. everyone agree?

yeah we mass claim here. i am lloyd christmas from dum and dumer. my character isnt very smart, and thus im a vanilla townie. justification is basically i drove across the country with no money or ride to return a breifcase, and eventually made it, so i can at least use my voice and vote

i popcorn magoroth

i didnt even realize wryly was being lynched, that whole thing really took me off guard. i think there was one or two scum on that wagon. actually everyone alive was on that wagon except me so idk

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/8/2026 at 6:54 AM (post #117)

@Banana

I know I have no right to ask this since I’ve been far more inactive than you but where you at?

ive been here.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/8/2026 at 1:07 AM (post #94)

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/7/2026 at 11:46 PM (post #91)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/7/2026 at 11:07 AM (post #67)

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/7/2026 at 11:45 AM (post #64)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/7/2026 at 10:42 AM (post #63)

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/6/2026 at 11:59 PM (post #26)

maybe i am barking up the wrong tree here. did anyone else think whiteflames post 2 was a strong case for him being a pr?

Nah not in post 2

u think helz was tmi there too?

I don’t think it’s TMI. Different people can read the same thing and come to different conclusions

who do u scum read then?

Simple POE says Wryly and/or Wylted. Lean Wryly cause she feels different. The push on the inactive is different from her past behavior if I remember correctly. She also seemed wayyyy too okay with lynching Thoth. Almost like an “oh well,” vs if she thought he was town, she’d be defending him.

can you explain how everyone u excluded from the "poe" is not on that as well? also i remember u firmly doubling down on thoth when i told u he was low hanging fruit, u defended it by saying if he was town he would be on defending himself, which ignored the fact that he was just as likely afk town.