Lunatic

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:40 PM (post #862)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:36 PM (post #854)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:31 PM (post #841)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:27 PM (post #830)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:25 PM (post #825)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:21 PM (post #814)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #783)

VTL: Mag1cman

Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.

Why are you lying? I just asked thoth the same thing he said:

"They would be told they were roleblocked and they wouldn't jailkeep their target

If the person roleblocking them was the same person they jailed, both would be RB'd"

Anyone can and should verify this right now with the mod. I got permission to copy paste that.

Yep, I got the same feedback. I don't think that runs contrary to what Kohai said. The full story is straightforward:

Assuming Mag1c is the JK and he'd been RB'd, he would have received a message saying that he'd been RB'd. That's what Kohai said. What Kohai isn't understanding is that it's not a slip to point out that he didn't receive the message.

How is it not a slip? If he didn't get a "your action failed" message, then:

1. Wylted was actually blocked and is lying

2. Got redirected to someone else

Yes, #1 is precisely his point. Where's the scum slip in that argument?

hold on. If Wylted has a teammate who sent Mikal a carol and wylted claimed caroler, it's possible to have both a jailkeep that roleblocks Wylted and for Mikal to recivee a carol, isn't it?

Wylted is still scum either way but worth nothing. Probably still Mikal but Kohai is acting so dumb I kinda wanna explore tinfoils, like Magoroth actually rage-quitting as scum.

VTL: wylted

A scum Caroler? That would be... interesting. I'd say the odds of that are exceedingly low, just doesn't seem very likely to me.

Role confirmation =/= Affiliation confirmation. But if that's too hard to wrap your brain around why can't he be a scum messenger? Thats the same argument people are using to dismiss my results lol

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:35 PM (post #850)

I see where luna is coming from.

Magic is scum

We can pick between luna or kohai tomorrow.

Luna are you tp dude. If so pls say so so we can just end

I would have town sided dp1 if I was TP. I am town brother.

Magic is the only claimed protective role in the game so far. Theres a watcher/tracker, watcher, cop, and informed townie. 4 investigation roles and 1 protective role should give us at least some pause in pursuing the only protective role.

Didn't rex bargain for his life by promising to be active today? WTF?

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:25 PM (post #825)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:21 PM (post #814)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #783)

VTL: Mag1cman

Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.

Why are you lying? I just asked thoth the same thing he said:

"They would be told they were roleblocked and they wouldn't jailkeep their target

If the person roleblocking them was the same person they jailed, both would be RB'd"

Anyone can and should verify this right now with the mod. I got permission to copy paste that.

Yep, I got the same feedback. I don't think that runs contrary to what Kohai said. The full story is straightforward:

Assuming Mag1c is the JK and he'd been RB'd, he would have received a message saying that he'd been RB'd. That's what Kohai said. What Kohai isn't understanding is that it's not a slip to point out that he didn't receive the message.

I dont understand where the roleblocking thing even came from and got him to vote magic though. That seemed sus as fuck, pretending he caught onto a slip to jump on board with mikal there. Seemed a bit coordinated.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:24 PM (post #824)

Wf has a green check

Mod confirmed wylted gave results and I got them

David said he saw himself when he watched someone. This is not standard and the mod confirmed a watcher would see themselves. This is so uncommon that I cant see it as a lie and its before the mod told me that

So by pure poe.

Its magic rex luna

None of this answers my question about how Magic being scum means I am scum lol. I wasn't even the one who had the innocent on him, kohai was. I just sent him an anonymous result

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 9:22 PM (post #820)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:21 PM (post #814)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #783)

VTL: Mag1cman

Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.

Why are you lying? I just asked thoth the same thing he said:

"They would be told they were roleblocked and they wouldn't jailkeep their target

If the person roleblocking them was the same person they jailed, both would be RB'd"

Anyone can and should verify this right now with the mod. I got permission to copy paste that.

oh there's a real chance kohai is 3p

We literally cannot afford to even look for a third party right now. Third party gets to join win at this point with whoever they want.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:25 PM (post #826)

Which i summarized it as "They would be told their action failed."

But you voted magic over that, where is this roleblocking the jailkeeper conversation even coming from? I am so confused by you right now

Everyone ask Thoth right now "What would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked" and tell me if you get the same answer as kohai.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:19 PM (post #813)

If magic is scum. Wylteds results are also accurate. Which locks him

Wf is mod locked and david is jusf auto locked cus of pm shit

Gonna need you to be more specific than that.

Magic flipping puts you in 100 percent poe outside of bastard shit

None of that confirms me being on magics team though.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #783)

VTL: Mag1cman

Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.

Why are you lying? I just asked thoth the same thing he said:

"They would be told they were roleblocked and they wouldn't jailkeep their target

If the person roleblocking them was the same person they jailed, both would be RB'd"

Anyone can and should verify this right now with the mod. I got permission to copy paste that.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:15 PM (post #800)

I think this is a lock. Cus magic almost implicitly locks luna

Make this make sense to me

So magic is jailkeeper?

WTF

Btw this is the only claimed protective role. My head hurts.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:01 PM (post #775)

Luna, spell out your justification. You gave your full claim, but I can't find that.

"Justification for my role is that I give important information to link in defiance of my master, and won't be silent about the truth."

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/80/majoras-mask-mafia---second-day?page=18&comment_number=520

Some things to consider:

The more I think about it the less likely I think wylted/mikal is a scum team. If there is scum in that, its one or the other. Role confirmation doesnt always mean affiliation confirmation, so there is a chance that wylted is a scum comedian, or even at minimum that he has some ability to send fake results. Either way there is mod confirmation going on with thoth confirming that results got sent, but that doesn't really clear anyone. Just confirms that someone should have got results and didn't.

So there are more options here than we think. Small possibility that thoth was also just confirming a mistake was made in general, and not confirming that the mistake was dinstinctly made with mikal. Though him responding to it right after mikal begged him publicly isn't a good look for a general mistake, it looks more like a direct response to mikal.

Regardless, magic needs to full claim.

From my POV I am only lynching between magic and Mikal. Need magic to get in and full claim.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 8:28 PM (post #748)

This is all mod confirmed ffs

If you nimrods go in a diff direction after the mod has mod confirmed the mistake. Ima tweek out

Confirming he made a mistake in general does not confirm that it was the mistake you are talking about. Though to your credit it looks good for you

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 8:25 PM (post #743)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 10:24 PM (post #740)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 8:17 PM (post #730)

So luna / mag1c is likely the team based on that result.

Wtf I’m so lost

Mikal claimed a carol result with you / mag1c / wf in the list. One of those must be mafia. WF is town confirmed so unelss mikal is lying then oen of you is scum

If it’s magic someone fucked with my result, which I am open too. Or Mikal is lying. Not out of the question, mafia would only need one more mislynch right?

Mikal is claiming to be informed with knowledge of a tailor. For you to think I’m a messenger you think the scum team has a messenger/ tailor, with 0 counter to any of the killing roles or investigations. And the tailor is basically already useless if you believe Mikal’s info. So being town sided is one thing but for this to be the set up the scum team would have had to be straight masochists to not immediately forfeit lol

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 8:17 PM (post #730)

So luna / mag1c is likely the team based on that result.

Wtf I’m so lost

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/20/2026 at 8:04 PM (post #709)

Yes. It is true. I made a mod error last night. Like the board around the neck of a convicted criminal in Imperial China, I must trod down the boulevards of Clock Town with this shameful admission open for all to see.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/20/2026 at 8:00 PM (post #701)

whiteflame has survived and been confirmed as town!

So this whole time I was getting strong armed by banana and all she would have done is town confirmed me lol wtf

Also I’m tired of waiting on Rex. Everyone who hasn’t full claimed please do so now

Wow people are active it’s a miracle! On my way to work and will catch up.

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/20/2026 at 12:05 PM (post #577)

Are we humoring a mass claim given its mylo or not?

We 100% should. Waiting on Rex so he can popcorn

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:06 AM (post #566)

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 12:50 PM (post #561)

If you can kill me just do it. It will confirm Luna’s results and I can get out of playing with these retards.

Can we not do this? It really doesn’t matter to me whether you’re scum or not, this kind of response just kills any enjoyment. Don’t be defeatist, just wait for whatever info Mikal says he has to come out. We’re not breaking out the torches and pitchforks yet.

^^^

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 10:50 AM (post #561)

If you can kill me just do it. It will confirm Luna’s results and I can get out of playing with these retards.

Kind of an over reaction, don't you think?

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:57 AM (post #553)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:45 AM (post #548)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:41 AM (post #547)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:14 AM (post #542)

He sounds like a watcher tracker hybrid more like

Yeah, I initially read that as just Tracker, but looking back, it does both. Some crossover in roles does seem to be going on, but that’s a pretty direct CC.

Only reason I’m not attacking it is because Mikal said there was a tailor. Just a weird tailor choice…

Weird to go ahead with the claim after the flip as well. He’d have had the character from the start of last DP, so his changing his pfp to fit doesn’t really move the needle for me.

True but he also might not have noticed the flip. He didn’t say anything about pie being a watcher even after claiming, not until it was brought up just now. Could be a case of a fake claim gone wrong. But I am very open to pie being tailored.

Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:57 AM (post #552)

Either

1. Pie was tailored

2. There’s no talor and Mikal is scum.

If it’s number two, it’s still weird that a tracker/watcher hybrid exists with an every night watcher.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:48 AM (post #549)

I also dont think that flip is tailored. Its written very similar to how shinings was

Well if kohai is scum that means my investigation on magic is worthless, if they are a scum team he would just say he is innocent. Hmm. Kohai was pressuring magic quite a bit though. Could be distancing I guess.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:41 AM (post #547)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:14 AM (post #542)

He sounds like a watcher tracker hybrid more like

Yeah, I initially read that as just Tracker, but looking back, it does both. Some crossover in roles does seem to be going on, but that’s a pretty direct CC.

Only reason I’m not attacking it is because Mikal said there was a tailor. Just a weird tailor choice…