Reads:
Banana- Lean Scum- She has some role confirmation going for her, that's about it. Mods frequently give scum "confirmable" type roles though for balance, to prove the point that players being role confirmed should not eliminate need for lynching based on behavior. Banana behaviorally just feels different. She was a hypocrite in wanting to pressure people on the shining/thoth wagon despite the fact she herself was on the thoth wagon. But she didn't even follow through with that despite dedicating her entire np1 ability to basically posting she thinks we should be targetting those on that wagon. She voted me instead, and then just dis-appeared. Her aggressive stances early don't seem like her at all, and she seems to be trying to take advantage of a mislynch opportunity with whiteflames results rather than even attempt to consider a world where I would be town. Her behavior has been very unusual to her normal playstyle this game, and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise for me. Normally I feel like she screams town when town, and I am not getting that vibe at all now.
iLikePie5- Null- I am hesitant to put pie in either scum or town camp right now, because I am not seeing a lot of behaviors that indicate heavily either way. The worst thing he has going for him is over all activity seeming lower than usual, but he didn explain that its fourth of july weekend so that could attribute to that. Pie doesn't feel as locked in as normal though and that's the main reason I would give him some suspicion. I won't bag on him for the shining push, that push made a lot of sense considering the day was ending and shinings slot was basically useless at this point. He seems like he is trying to get things rolling more now by pinging players and get them to force a read, which I like. I think today will be pivotal in reading pie since the weekend of the fourth is over and we should be seeing more activity from him going forward.
Magic (replaced shining)- Town- I buy the doctor claim atm, not that magic isn't capable of claiming a role like that as scum, but purely from a balance perspective. I'll let people infer whatever they want about my own claim from this, but a doctor seems very neccesary for this type of game (even if it exists along side a BP, which I am not confirming or denying that I am). Magics been okay behaviorally as well, I say that with a grain of salt because of the activity issues, but nothing stands out at me as particularly scummy so far. As someone who gives constant praise for magic's scum play, I would normally be hyper paranoid about this slot, but I am so convinced he is town based on his claim, that should tell you exactly what I think of kohai's balance in this game lol.
RexFavilla (Replacing Magoroth)- lean scum- The main thing I don't like is his insistance between lynching whiteflame and myself, it's weird and I don't really understand it. The only basis to lynch whiteflame would be if he expects whiteflame is a rolecop exactly. I also dis-agree that "Rolecop is the weakest role and would be used early". 1. Rolecop is not a weak role, especially early in mafia when we have limited claims. Mafia had very little POE to work with after day phase one with the limited activity and basically only having two role claims between shining and mikal. Information is pretty pivotal for scum at that point, so a rolecop would get a lot of value. 2. In general even if we are to assume rolecop is a weak role, scum tend to save weak roles later, and use their arsenal in the beginning. I think I would like to see examples of what hes talking about with scum wasting weak roles early, that has not been something I have ever observed.
Anyways his insistence on pressuring between me and whiteflame is a bit weird, ironically I would suspect this less if he was full tunnel on one or the other. I think it also weird he is doing the whole "I am not claiming" thing again directly after doing that in another game where he was town, feels like a set up to use the argument of "I just did this as town". Also he only had two votes on him when he did this. Also neither pie nor whiteflame asked him for a claim lol.
Whiteflame- slight town- His results are accurate, so again he would have to be some sort of scum role cop to get those results. The more the game goes on the more I doubt that he is. Comedian is a role we've seen before a couple times, though it is rare. I think the first time I seen this role was in supas south park mafia, and I think it was used at least once or twice since then though I barely remember it. It's one of those investigative roles that can help with POE but doesn't tip the balance heavily towards town either. I don't have major issues with whiteflame behaviorally, though I am vexed at his repeated insistence that I am being "defensive" which is just wrong, or being argued in bad faith. That said his behavior doesn't stand out as scummy to me so far, and his reads and activity have been good and consistent. He's probably by far the most active player so far, and he hasn't had a ton of takes that really just make me raise my eyebrows at him. I have been fooled many a time by whiteflame behaviorally, so I may change my tune here as the game progresses, and most of my clearing of him is mechanical based atm.
Wryly- slight town- Hard to say with wryly, and this is mostly based on gut, but she's been attacking things from a fairly "straight-forward" POV. Ironically she was actually right to do this wrt to mikal, who turns out wasn't lying, even after I was convinced he was baiting something. She's ben trying to work through all results and claims logically though, and doesn't seem to be jumping to quick conclusions. I like her latest posts looking at past games as well. I think I've only seen wryly as scum one time, and I am not seeing a lot of similarities to that game. I also know that the game where she was scum kind of stuck with her and was a reason she didn't want to play for a while afterwards in case she would roll scum again, so I just feel like her behavior would be more guarded in general if she was scum, given the paranoia she would probably have at being caught again. She's been playing with her walls down, and I think that is a point in her favor at the moment.
Wylted- Null- Can't really say what I think about wylted at the moment, other than he's been wrong a lot about his thoughts on my claim, and I just can't really elaborate on that at this time. I would have expected scum wylted to tunnel me a bit more though, thinking he could use whiteflames results for a mislynch. He has been more reserved though, and patient then I would expect of scum wylted. That said he still is floating the Lunatic lynch on assumptions about the result, so not a major fan of that. The whiteflame vote was odd, and un-explained. I don't like the town read on banana who is my top scum read at the moment. I am okay placing wylted as a firm null though at the moment. Still trying to decide with him.
