Lunatic

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/27/2026 at 10:16 PM (post #153)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/27/2026 at 11:14 PM (post #151)

I can say this, based on what Thoth had already said and what I remember from season 1 there’s probably like 2 characters and roles I can think he’d be. Both would be town roles. Unless I am severely misinterpreting what I think he is putting down.

You said in post #6 of the previous thread that you only watched one season of this show. Did Banana say she stopped at the same time? I could be a character from season 1. Just wondering.

No but in season 1 there’s two obvious characters who I think you could be hinting at, that would have a clear link to their role. I’ll refrain from saying their names in case you are one of them. I have no clue what banana has seen, I’m guessing all of it.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/27/2026 at 10:14 PM (post #152)

If someone wants to tell me that wylted's justification is horrible assuming that Banana knows From inside and out, please be my guest

Wylteds justification is like half right is the problem. The specificity of Sarah “killing everyone” is what he uses to tie the justification into PGO. That specificity is false though, since Sarah only intends to kill a select few people based on voices in her head telling her do, and she doesn’t want to, basically just does it under duress of being threatened to have her brother killed if she doesn’t do it. Which spoiler alert ends up happening when she doesn’t fulfill that task.

Anyways it’s one of those slips you probably wouldn’t pick up on if you skimmed a wiki.

I can say this, based on what Thoth had already said and what I remember from season 1 there’s probably like 2 characters and roles I can think he’d be. Both would be town roles. Unless I am severely misinterpreting what I think he is putting down.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/27/2026 at 4:01 PM (post #98)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/27/2026 at 5:52 PM (post #96)

Let’s move on from Thoth, kind of feels like a stupid reason we are on him.

Agree with this.

As someone who usually draws Pies ire day phase one, I’m curious about your thoughts on Pies antics right now.

Before I waste time going back and forth with him, is there anyone else who sees what I am seeing with pie? Pies gonna have 50 responses to anything I say no matter what and I don’t wanna sludge up the day phase arguing with him if I don’t have to but if there is pivotal points he is making you want me to address I am happy to

I didn’t bring my laptop so my responses are gonna be slow as shit from mobile

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 9:38 PM (post #133)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/27/2026 at 10:30 PM (post #132)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 4:05 PM (post #100)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/27/2026 at 4:52 PM (post #96)

Lets move on from Thoth, kind of feels like a stupid reason we are on him.

Why is it a stupid reason? He’s flip flopping and going where the wind blows

How is he flip flopping? Your punishing him for not clutching up as town in periodic? Kind of makes no sense. Would make more sense if he was scum and flops, pushing him because he wasn’t a strong town player once is just odd though.

Read Post #116. He’s basically buddying you.

Its not buddying me because he just changed his mind about a PGO after researching the character and I never believe there was a PGO.

Also, how does it not make sense? I want to solve him early. I think he’s scum, but if he’s town, then even if he gets to LYLO, it’s not incumbent upon him to prove he’s town and convince the other townie that he’s town. He is atrocious at that. Same issue with Kohai.

He is way less of a problem then Kohai, and you ALWAYS push Kohai dp1, it’s like a meme at this point that Kohai has to tell you that you are obsessed with him dp1. Also why not Rex who was third party and actively did nothing all game? Rex meets the criteria for your Thoth push over Thoth lol

Also, we have 12 hours. You have a better option? We’ve basically done nothing today. A no lynch loses us a lynch in a 7-2.

Right now I’m leaning you.

VTL: ILikePie5

Id almost be on board if it were just a random vote towards Thoth because he picked a name out of a hat. But the fact that he’s doubling down on this and pushing it for the weirdest reasons is making me really suspicious of pie here. I think it’s obvious at this point Thoth is trying to tell us he’s a PR and we shouldn’t be pushing him, since he is saying his character claim gives away his role.

I can think of maybe like 2 characters that would do that, so I’m pretty fine with just accepting Thoth as town from that alone.

But pie tunneling him here for a TOWN mess up by claiming soldier in periodic is just dumb. Was that Thoths smartest move? No. But he was town, so how does capitalizing on a player who fucks up as town make any sense? You do that with scum players who fuck up, because you think they are prone to fuck up more. Thoth has had some significant scum slips, if pie was referring to those I’d be down to even buy it a little bit but he’s not referencing those games lol. Also there arguably another player in this game he isn’t pushing who is known for fucking up worse as scum, so it’s interesting he’s pressing Thoth over that player.

The “Buddying Luna” argument is equally just bad. It’s not like he ever hardcore FOSed Wylted either so that’s a pretty weak argument for a “flip flop”.

If we are pushing for a claim from someone I want it to be Pie. He feels disingenuous as fuck right now

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 4:05 PM (post #100)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/27/2026 at 4:52 PM (post #96)

Lets move on from Thoth, kind of feels like a stupid reason we are on him.

Why is it a stupid reason? He’s flip flopping and going where the wind blows

How is he flip flopping? Your punishing him for not clutching up as town in periodic? Kind of makes no sense. Would make more sense if he was scum and flops, pushing him because he wasn’t a strong town player once is just odd though.

VTL: Kohai

Lets move on from Thoth, kind of feels like a stupid reason we are on him.

We should decide officially what we are doing with the vote soonish if we only have a day and some change left also. I can vote for either though I lean towards not buffing mafia

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 10:24 AM (post #70)

Simple question: do yall townread Thoth?

What specific reason are you targeting Thoth here? He’s been more active than a few others. You said something about not wanting to be in LYLO with him, what game are you basing this paranoia off of?

Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/27/2026 at 8:47 AM (post #65)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/26/2026 at 11:18 PM (post #41)

Where have you been? You were pretty active in the last game and you were town.. Whats going on?

Ive been extremely busy with my community and work.

You feel a bit off, maybe it’s just the activity. I’ll let you cook though since it’s early. You just came in the last game with a much stronger vibe and seemed to be sussing people out more.

If we are assuming scum know what buff they get from a yes answer it probably stands to reason that scum want the buff and are on the “yes” wagon.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/26/2026 at 10:35 PM (post #51)

I tentatively townread him because his claim sounds less absurd to me than Lunatic was making it sound.

I mean he lied about his justification or at the very least exaggerated it in a way I doubt the mod would do to make that role fit. Killing everyone =\= killing a small specific group of people. It’s a bit of a stretch IMO

Would like some activity from ya mate

Hey there! Can we get some posts from you?

Where have you been? You were pretty active in the last game and you were town.. Whats going on?

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/26/2026 at 8:44 PM (post #38)

Let’s get a claim from Thoth

Thoth claim feels kind of random, especially over like kohai or casey (who will probably be inactive).

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/26/2026 at 7:57 PM (post #26)

Jesus fuck can we get some activity in here

They are gonna wait until the last 2 hours again like they did in your game, then someone who wasnt there is gonna lecture us for mislynching or something. Just wait.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/26/2026 at 7:57 PM (post #26)

Jesus fuck can we get some activity in here

They are gonna wait until the last 2 hours again like they did in your game, then someone who wasnt there is gonna lecture us for mislynching or something. Just wait.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/26/2026 at 1:27 AM (post #15)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/26/2026 at 1:53 AM (post #14)

I’m up, I’m sleepy as hell though. Will be here later on

Smh you and Luna are the only people on during my peak activity hours.

Are you saying you don't like our company?

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/25/2026 at 9:57 PM (post #11)

Per wiki:

Sarah's biggest burden is from the voices telling her that if she did not kill everyone who arrived in the two vehicles (Jim, Tabitha, Julie, and Ethan from the RV and Tobey and Jade from the Audi), her brother would die and there would be a massacre like the last time two cars arrived the same day.

This seems like solid justification for PGO to me. Sure, there might be other details that don't fit with PGO, like the next sentence in that article, but any justification can have holes poked in it.

Its that the justification is innacurate, not that it doesn't explain PGO. Sarah doesn't wanna just kill anyone and everyone, she was manipulated to kill specific people, failts, and then is eventually forgiven and rejoins the town as a main character. Just kind of doesn't make sense the way wylted phrased it, and I don't see banana phrasing it that way if shes a fan of the show.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/25/2026 at 9:50 PM (post #7)

It has been a very long day. A few remarks:

Not sure what pie is doing with regards to pressuring Thoth to claim early. It does ping me a little bit.

Is it really that wierd? Pie usually picks on someone who has a history of mess ups to claim early. You should know that better than anyone lol

I guess we are over here now.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/25/2026 at 9:34 PM (post #57)

I could say a lot of things about Pie but nobody ever accused him of being stupid

Nah he's not stupid. He's retarded!

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/25/2026 at 9:30 PM (post #54)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/25/2026 at 10:57 PM (post #37)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/25/2026 at 1:30 PM (post #10)

As for the vote for information, yeah screw that. I am not sure it’s worth risking buffing the mafia over some information. I am mostly indifferent if people wanna go that way, I can vote that way, but my own opinion I am leaning towards a no vote.

Theres a cheese strat where we force 4 people to vote yes, and if it doesn’t go through, it’s basically confirmed that there’s scum in that pool. I don’t think Banana thought of this though

Possibly a pairing of Thoth/Pie

Basically anyone who supports a "Yes" vote I am guessing? lol

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/25/2026 at 9:28 PM (post #51)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/25/2026 at 10:21 PM (post #50)

So let's say we find out the role is a Godfather or roleblocker or something. Does that really help us that much in the grand scheme of things, when those are common to scum anyway? Just have to weigh if the knowledge is worth a potential buff.

The offer implies that scum have a role where just knowing about it helps town. This is useful information in and of itself. Like, knowing that scum have a roleblocker is not very helpful since we would probably find that out by day 2 and would probably choose the same targets for our night actions anyway, but knowing that scum have a Godfather could change how a Cop plays.

In general, I'd at least most mods would give scum some sort of counter to a cop. However, you may be cooking with the point about the offer implying that town knowing this role could mean its a useful role to know about. I could probably be swayed into a yes.

I think my justification is solid. Let me check the wiki.

Mine is too, at best you can say the role link doesn't check out like crazy, but in the very least the description of the character seems accurate.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/25/2026 at 8:54 PM (post #34)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/25/2026 at 10:47 AM (post #2)

I voted no. I think it’s better to go on the safe side and not give scum an unknown advantage when there’s no information on what that advantage is.

So how do you know the benefits outweigh the harms? Or are you just saying act like it doesn’t even exist?

So let's say we find out the role is a Godfather or roleblocker or something. Does that really help us that much in the grand scheme of things, when those are common to scum anyway? Just have to weigh if the knowledge is worth a potential buff.

Theres a cheese strat where we force 4 people to vote yes, and if it doesn’t go through, it’s basically confirmed that there’s scum in that pool. I don’t think Banana thought of this though

Down to try it, not sure if there is a way for scum to game that, id have to think about it more, but at face value seems like a decent strategy.

Possibly. Do you think scum chose option 1 or option 2 for fake claims. That’s a key piece

If Wylted is scum, I'd guess they chose two fake claims. Otherwise, I have no clue.

The way I see it, there are 3 options:

1) He’s straight claiming his character as scum and asked about PGO

2) He asked about both character and PGO

3) He’s Town and PGO

Of the those options, I doubt 3 is likely, just based on how the he justified the role completely incorrectly. Wiki backs up what I am saying if you look her up. Looks like he poorly skimmed the wiki and threw that together. Sarah doesn't want to kill anyone and everyone entering the town, just the Matthews family and jade because she was threated her brother would die or something like that.

I guess that could be a real justification in the loosest form possible if banana didn't put any effort into character sheets.

I think I know what he’s doing. But if you do too, then it’s not as obscure lol

If he's town I don't know what he's doing, but I know he's up to something. Hopefully its more big brained than it appears at face value lol.