Lunatic

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 2:15 AM (post #495)

I think we have been tunneling Pie too much. Deservedly, but I want to look somewhere else for now, i.e., I am going to try to sleep now and I hope that y’all will have done so by the time I wake up.

I mean if you want to explore elsewhere that's fine, we have plenty of time. But don't dismiss all the behavioral evidence against pie because you are getting weary about the push in that direction; There's well substantiated reasoning for it. It's not like we are just tenneling him for the sake of tunneling.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 2:14 AM (post #494)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:58 AM (post #493)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 1:08 AM (post #492)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 AM (post #490)

What do you think of pies claim?

Judging only from the information in the flipped role cards since I am not a From fan, Pie's claimed justification is weaker than Rex's or Kohai's. I also thought the writing style had a tinge of ChatGPT-esque je ne sais quoi, but that might be evidence in Pie's favor since the cards were at least partially AI-generated. It's an average-weak claim, if you ask me. I did not visit Magic, so I can't question that.

I think kohais unwillingness to lynch him was pretty evident of their association ngl. Scum kohai kills pie there all day. At the bare minimum if pie was town, then it was kohais plan to recruit him, either way, not a good look for pie.

They knew Kohai was Yakuza and probably that he would use it that night. Why buddy Pie so strongly? However bad Kohai’s decisions are when he makes them, Pie would surely have coached him.

He wasn't buddying him, he was avoiding having to deal with him. Does scum kohai do that? Why? Pie is like kohais biggest threat when he is scum. Not only did he avoid lynching pie when magic said he was willing if we could secure one more vote, but pie was also not using the same logic in lynching you that he has always used to lynch kohai. The pairing isn't just one way is the problem, its both. Scum!pie can't lynch kohai because they need the yakuza to go off, so by proxy he is forced in a situation where he can't risk bussing. And Scum!Kohai has no incentive to lynch pie when there is a mislynch available, and he won't be around to pay for the consequences of his vote the next day. If pie gets lynched now, they can still survive off of whoever they yak'ed. No reason not to take the mislynch there. He had us by the balls because he was online and chose not to vote pie. Why would he care? We almost had a no lynch, and i waited until literally the last minute to hammer. Why would he risk no lynching over lynching pie? He couldn't have accounted for me caving at the end there. Why even risk it?

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 1:08 AM (post #492)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 AM (post #490)

What do you think of pies claim?

Judging only from the information in the flipped role cards since I am not a From fan, Pie's claimed justification is weaker than Rex's or Kohai's. I also thought the writing style had a tinge of ChatGPT-esque je ne sais quoi, but that might be evidence in Pie's favor since the cards were at least partially AI-generated. It's an average-weak claim, if you ask me. I did not visit Magic, so I can't question that.

I think kohais unwillingness to lynch him was pretty evident of their association ngl. Scum kohai kills pie there all day. At the bare minimum if pie was town, then it was kohais plan to recruit him, either way, not a good look for pie.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 12:45 AM (post #476)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 1:43 AM (post #475)

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Lunatic and I sleep during the day

Gottem!

What do you think of pies claim?

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 12:40 AM (post #471)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 6:47 PM (post #429)

Whoever restricted me from voting is probably town confirmed by the way. That Role is too OP for scum, and essentially wins them the game in a mylo or lylo situation.

Unless they were Yakuzaed. Confirmability goes out the door

Duh

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 12:40 AM (post #471)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 6:47 PM (post #429)

Whoever restricted me from voting is probably town confirmed by the way. That Role is too OP for scum, and essentially wins them the game in a mylo or lylo situation.

Unless they were Yakuzaed. Confirmability goes out the door

Duh

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 12:32 AM (post #465)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 5:26 PM (post #410)

Can I just say I fucking hate yakuzas?

Except when you shove it down our throats as a mod.

I didn't use a yakuza. Maybe a long time ago on Dart, I cannot remember. I used a tailor and scum made the yakuza in alien, can't balme me for that lol.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 12:24 AM (post #461)

Oh boy. L-1 already. Fair ig. My luck just absolutely sucks. As promised, I will full claim:

Character: Jade Herrera

Role: Watcher

Justification: I see connections that others overlook and through them, discover the secrets of the town

NP1: I watched Mag1c cause he was was my top town read. Didn’t see anyone visit him.

Why was magic your top town read? Because he didn't vote you at EOD? lol. Why wouldn't you protect thoth or wylted who were more likely hinting power roles?

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/28/2026 at 11:24 PM (post #452)

I'm sure your character claim is obvious to anyone who has seen From, but could you please claim them explicitly? If we know who the Miller is, it might be easier to figure out what the theme split is.

He claimed Sarah Myers in like his first post. And Sarah DEFINITELY fits with miller. That is a strong fake claim if it one. Because mafia could have two fake characters, but miller goes with sarah so well and he claimed it so early, I almost think it has to be real. Though theres a good chance he was Yak'ed so I won't town confirm him off of this. I think he was town yesterday at least.

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/28/2026 at 11:08 PM (post #449)

I have essentially talked like this even when you first pressed me to communicate with the more observant players about my role so I could hopefully be communicating one message to you and another to others but I guess you are too dense. I think pie picked up on it but I also think it's looking more and more like he is scum.

I'm a miller. I tell people Everytime they claim miller that it would be funny if they claim PGO as miller and miller as PGO . I thought telling you to Google "wylted" + "PGO" would bring up conversations where I mentioned that in the past. I think I essentially bring it up as a way to discourage millers from claiming. As miller is not a SOP claim., but I mention it frequently as a strategy.

I know theres a cop because I am a miller. I'm a miller because I accidentally killed my brother. It's from the same scene that inspired me to claim PGO.

You are being dense though. That was so many soft claims that probably only Pie picked up on that I had to outright tell you.

Nah bro. I thought you were a dreamer lol

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/28/2026 at 10:46 PM (post #446)

's more that I was hoping you had some sort of results we could use. Maybe I was wrong about what I thought you were hinting.

I have no results. But there is a cop this game and hopefully they weren't recruited

I too would like to know how you know there is a cop and why you said this?

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/28/2026 at 10:40 PM (post #443)

Any results? Wylted you probably need to fess up about what you are now. Because I gave you a pass dp1 because I thought you were cooking.

I'm not going to say anything right now. Its pretty obvious I am lying about the role but not the character. It's actually really annoying that you picked up on it because you did so for stupid reasons and not intelligent ones.

At the time I was considering you were just scum and bad at claiming, if it weren't pretty obvious to me now that its pie/kohai pairing, I would still be kind of paranoid about it. I did however back off of it when I realized what you were trying to do. That said, mafia probably already knew what you were doing. Assuming it is pie who is scum, he was essentially calling out what he thought you were hinting at already. Unless the scum team was precisely two noobier players, you likely weren't pulling the curtains over anyones eyes with that.

It makes sense to make a character who had a voice tell her that everyone in cars or whatever that shows up to kill them. I assume in the show everyone that shows up somewhere would arrive in vehicles so your explanation that somebody might arrive on foot or something so it's not technically a voice telling her to kill everyone seems stupid.

I got no issue with claiming but it has to be a town decision and it's probably a bad ideal given that literally only you and rex are good enough to see past it anyway and rex is dead and you can't vote

It's more that I was hoping you had some sort of results we could use. Maybe I was wrong about what I thought you were hinting.

Pies been convienently absent so far lmao

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/28/2026 at 7:11 PM (post #439)

Read u as town n dudnt want pie to push u

Huh?

What are your thoughts on pie?

I guess yakuza could have targeted Casey but that’s a wierd recruitment

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/28/2026 at 6:53 PM (post #435)

Enough to glance. I think your town this game. Behvaior seems normal compared to last one. Back to being aggressive yada yada. Yakuza is dead so I can confirm myself. I blocked you from voting or being lynched

Any reason you chose me? Your probably town

Have you caught up?

Whoever restricted me from voting is probably town confirmed by the way. That Role is too OP for scum, and essentially wins them the game in a mylo or lylo situation.

Consider my vote on pie. Even though I can’t vote lol.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/28/2026 at 5:25 PM (post #424)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 6:23 PM (post #422)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 5:03 PM (post #418)

Yakuza may have been the role that was going to be revealed to us.

100%. Had to have been. Wouldn’t have helped us with the activity though since we would have needed to mass claim and were missing two players. Glad the no was achieved

Then the question is, what do we gain by knowing there is a Yakuza on day 1? That we won’t be able to trust townreads we form today? We would know that by DP2 anyway since Yakuzas flip on activation.

Pretty much, it would tell us that our reads on dp1 are really important. Mass claiming would have been useful with that knowledge because scum would have to lock into a claim, obvious town roles like cop and doctor are likely recruit targets so it basically makes them a liability for scum to recruit. But at the end of the day it’s all wifom

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 5:03 PM (post #418)

Yakuza may have been the role that was going to be revealed to us.

100%. Had to have been. Wouldn’t have helped us with the activity though since we would have needed to mass claim and were missing two players. Glad the no was achieved

Also why can’t I vote or be voted for? Just noticed that. What even is that role lol and why me

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/28/2026 at 4:44 PM (post #411)

Imma have to read up from last DP this evening since I missed about half of it. The good news is that the Yakuza does not change town/scum count versus a night-kill.

True. And it’s not like there were a lot of hard claims or anything so we are kind of just as much at square one as we were yesterday with the added benefit of knowing pie is likely confirmed scum based on kohai not voting him yesterday.

Can I just say I fucking hate yakuzas?

Any results? Wylted you probably need to fess up about what you are now. Because I gave you a pass dp1 because I thought you were cooking.

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/28/2026 at 4:16 PM (post #405)

Do people lose their ability it a Yakuza recruit? Because lunatic is the most obvious target here

If it was pie/kohai like I suspect, Pie would have known that I would look sus as fuck and wouldn't have recruited me. But yeah it's all going to be WIFOM at this point regardless.

Pie needs to full claim, but yeah with kohai being scum, I'd say there's very little chance he's town here. Down to lynch him outright.

Jesus there was a yakuza? Of course it was kohai. No wonder he went stark quiet at the end of the day.

Damn.