So yeah we basically just really need to hear from wryly right now. But I honestly don't know what she can say to make this situation better for herself. But I am in no rush.
So yeah we basically just really need to hear from wryly right now. But I honestly don't know what she can say to make this situation better for herself. But I am in no rush.
You know what? I think Rex may be confirmed-ish.
Remember what thoth said dp1 OP?
"I mainly picked regulars, but I also included at least one player who would not be considered a regular or to have had much impact on this site's Mafia community."
Ultra is like the only one who matches that desription, and I don't see why he gives the non regular player to scum, but its possible IG.
Dead
Kohai- Whiteflame- Lie detector- Town - Lynched DP1
Banana- Lunatic- Inventor- Town- Killed NP1
Claims
Shining- iLikePie- Popular or hated (Post 15, dp1, Post 161 dp2)
Wryly- Received a carol, was roleblocked (Post 32, dp2)
ILikePie5- Mikal- Odd night Roleblocker (Post 75, dp2)
RexFavilla- Ultra- Ascetic (Post 81, dp2)
Lunatic- Vader- Oracle, learned about an innocent child (Post 84, dp2)
Wylted- MagicMan- Innocent Child (Post 94, dp2)
Magoroth- Kohai- Reroller (Post 90, dp2)
Anyway, I am ILikePie. My justification is that many are in awe of me because I dominate town as either alignment, but people also think I am a bit of a knob and that there are big overlap of people who think both about me.
I really like this role and justification. The early role claim gives it a lot of town cred as well.
Anyway, I am ILikePie. My justification is that many are in awe of me because I dominate town as either alignment, but people also think I am a bit of a knob and that there are big overlap of people who think both about me.
I really like this role and justification. The early role claim gives it a lot of town cred as well.
but that’s my point. why would he draw attention to the fact that “everyone thinks you’re wrong” lol
Pie used ad populum against magic in the last game. Also just look at any endgame ever with pie where he feels indignant and self righteous about something. He has done this as town.
The thing is, Pie plays aggressively as scum and gets away with it, last game when he was scum in Rex’s game he pushed me consistently and scumread me when nobody else was, and it just so happens this matches a scum motivation, and it doesn’t make sense as a town strategy to try to get a claim out of a player right out the gate. That and it happens to be a dick move, and I dont think Pie is a dick so I think he’s just scum
The difference here is he wasn't aggressively pushing anyone for made up behavior reasons this time, it was completely OGI with kohai, which is very consistent with him in either affiliation. But yeah I agree that pie would pursue whoever he wants as scum too. But that's also kind of the problem, he could have easily mislynched banana, we saw that in ruyi zhan, why does he kill her? Pie killing banana is baffling. And why would pie claim roleblocker as scum?! He can come up with better than that.
Also I have trouble ignoring the elephant in the room here with wryly and her caroler results.
Like this “Everyone thinks you’re wrong"
since when does Pie care about what “everyone” thinks???
Pie is also known for being a mafia ego maniac, thinks he is a god so this is also common knowledge lol. No offense pie, love ya buddy. Tbf he does have a pretty good win percentage and elo, not that that he isn't ever wrong.
I didn’t hear an explanation all I heard was a bunch of wah wah he didn’t wanna claim and it’s not my fault
I mean you can scum read him for it, but if you've played more than a few games with pie, the logic he used towards kohai claiming is pretty consistent for him and this isn't the first time we as a community have punished people for stubborness and refusal to claim via lynching. If you want to tell him he shouldn't do it or that he's wrong for it thats another thing. I tell pie often that I don't like his "lynch all millers" policy idea, but I am not scum reading him for pursuing it either, since its something he would always do.
Idk, gun to the head my thought is that it's Shining
So your scum team is pie/shining, and they both just happened to show up on the carol results? I mean technically possible but kind of a convenient read also
Even if there is a scum Caroler, which itself is bastard, the only utility it has is
A) Scum claims the role and confirms themselves, which didn’t happen herw
B) Scum says nothing and just gets the person lynched, but that strategy makes zero sense compared to A
I am hung up on the fact that scum wryly would claim a carol result if there wasn't actually a caroler. But there literally is no other explanation unless town is lying here. Which makes even less sense.
Yes.
Pie could be non-Caroler scum. I don’t trust Pie’s reaction test D1, it feels more like opportunism designed to get Kohai mislynched. Like I said it makes sense as a town strategy IF you have reason to suspect someone is scum, not as a “blind lets get someone to claim” thing, cause it can easily backfire and get a town lynched (as it did).
Okay so who is the caroler? Wryly is the only unclaimed and it can't be her. You town read her, and everyone but rex and shining is role confirmed.
PoE is Shining, Pie, and Rex. I don’t trust either one of them lol
If you think wryly is town and telling the truth pie can't logically be in your POE, despite the result.
Why would a Scum Caroler even use their ability, then never mention it? Doesn’t make sense.
They wouldn't thats the thing. Unless it's just a bastard role that gives town wrong info but I doubt that.
I also don’t think Wryly would make up a Caroler claim as scum. I think she’s probably telling the truth
So your theory is that one of the townies here is lying then? Why? Also it can literally only be Rex or shining from your POV. I confirmed my role via outing the innocent child who wylted confirmed he is. Pie is confirmed the role blocker via wryly being roleblocked.
It’s a bit of a stretch, but I guess Thoth really wanted Kohai to be “bad at fake claiming” and didn’t put any thoughts into how the role would work
Alright, just weird that he would put so much thought into every other role. Regardless, I think we lynch wryly here and we can look into you tomorrow.
Trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here but I really don't see why you would lie about a caroler unless you were just super confident scum was in those three people. We need absolutely every bit of information about your role pm asap, or you are likely the lynch here.
I’m bad at fake claiming so I get a “new” claim every night. That’s the justification.
That doesn't make sense though. I get the bad at fake claiming thing, but why would that mean he randomly would get a new claim every night? So far every other justification has like a direct correlation from the persons behavior to their action. Yours doesn't...
The funny thing is no one claimed Caroler lmfaooo
Thats crazy. So wryly is lying or there is a scum caroler lol
Dead
Kohai- Whiteflame- Lie detector- Town - Lynched DP1
Banana- Lunatic- Inventor- Town- Killed NP1
Claims
Shining- ???- Popular or hated (Post 15, dp1)
Wryly- Received a carol, was roleblocked (Post 32, dp2)
ILikePie5- Mikal- Odd night Roleblocker (Post 75, dp2)
RexFavilla- Ultra- Ascetic (Post 81, dp2)
Lunatic- Vader- Oracle, learned about an innocent child)
Wylted- MagicMan- Innocent Child (Post 94, dp2)
Magoroth- Kohai- Reroller (Post 90, dp2)
My first ability was Deflector. I hid behind Pie last night
What is a deflector? Hid? You mean hider??
I’m Kohai.
I’m Reroller. Every night I get a new ability from Thoth.
Justification is that I’m bad at fake claiming.
So far this is the only role in the game I have never seen or heard of. Also I don't get the link from the justification to the roll.
There is absolutely no reason to withhold information. Basically every power role is outting, you are not special.
unvote, just saw he claimed
You are not the boss around in these parts wylted. Stop acting like you are.
We can do this the hard way then. You saw how that ended for kohai.
vtl magoroth
Just need claims from wryly, magoroth, and a character from shining.
I had a feeling you were the innocent child based on what you said earlier lol
Dead
Kohai- Whiteflame- Lie detector- Town - Lynched DP1
Banana- Lunatic- Inventor- Town- Killed NP1
Claims
Shining- ???- Popular or hated (Post 15, dp1)
Wryly- Received a carol, was roleblocked (Post 32, dp2)
ILikePie5- Mikal- Odd night Roleblocker (Post 75, dp2)
RexFavilla- Ultra- Ascetic (Post 81, dp2)
Lunatic- Vader- Oracle, learned about an innocent child)
Wylted- MagicMan- Innocent Child
No claims
Magoroth
I am vader, the Oracle. Each night I receive a random result about a role that is in the game. Justification is because when Vader get's angry he always somehow is able to call out the entire scum team as if from a supernatural source.
Np1 I received info that there is an innocent child in the game.
I roleblocked Wryly, which means she couldn’t have visited anymore. Whether she is scum is still possible but less likely because she didn’t execute the NK at the very least
Still worth being open minded about.
I also received a message from Thoth saying that I got a slice of fruit pie, and that looking closer, there was a handwritten note that told me to get my actions in quicker next time.
Is the fruit pie a role or mechanic related thing, or thoths attempt at a joke? The latter wouldn't surprise me.
How do you know it was scum vs town though?
I feel like 90% of the time it's always scum, at least from a modding POV. But I lowkey have also stopped giving slow or indecisive players power roles for that reason so that also might play into it.
Character: Mikal
Role: Odd Night Roleblocker
Justification: I am a dominating player when I am playing mafia to the point where it’s been called bullying. And I use that to my advantage by bullying people out of their lunch money (night actions.)
This claim makes a lot of sense.