Lunatic
Lynch all liars boss man

You didn't want to lynch wylted in the last game for baiting magoroth out with his fake result. This lynch all liars has historically been used so inconsistently that is laughable its even still being used as a term.

Lunatic
Thoth, probably. Magicman, no. I don’t understand how yall are falling for this. This is exactly the shit Mikal pulled before in Alien Mafia. If you thought you were a CC, you would check your PM 5 times, not just hammer instantly. Especially if the character claimed was Link


To qoute the great "Hannah Montana". Everyone makes mistakes, everyone has those days!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK_Gcl4yT6w


To be fair also Mikal is a very different player from mharman, mharman is more careful as scum. We literally just saw his scum game in Ted Lasso, this was not even close to a strategy he used. He was very controlled and calculated there. I think as town you are less likely to focus on your own role, and more eager to get in and scum hunt also. Scum are usually more focused on their PM and it's structure. And if you are not majorly into the zelda franchise I could see you getting zelda and link mixed up.

Just my take here.


Lunatic
I have no idea what that was and it also rubbed me the wrong way. If I had to guess, I suspect at least some of those people were just focused on getting a lynch at that point and there was such limited time to do it that they just went along with the flow. Doesn't explain why you, specifically.

Yeah I saw you questioned that, gave me major town vibes on you. I feel as scum you would have been happier to buy into that.

Lunatic
Pie’s was opportunistic last DP, and he’s trying to be opportunistic here. Let’s get his full claim. And then move onto Lunatic.

What if both of you are town here and just being stubborn knuckleheads?


"If you were my sons I would knock your heads together and lock you in a room until you remembered you are brothers!" -Catelyn Stark, GOT

Lunatic
Is there a reason why you guys think any one town member has the right to overturn our lynch and aren't just doubling down on it, particularly a dp1 lynch with so little information that it can't possibly be smart to overturn the lynch there. We should double down unless you guys have new information that clears thoth

I wasn't online when the thoth wagon happened, my sleep schedule is majorly fucked up atm. But I think thoth is probably town.

Lunatic
I sussed you and I townread Thoth. Simple as.

You tried pushing me when I wasn't online to defend myself and clearly stated hours before that I wouldn't be is the issue.


Nice it is looking like Pie + Lunatic they think thy can jump on it


Jump on it? I still town read you homie I just didn't like your push on me combined with the thoth thing is all, I was still leaning you being town, that just gave me pause.


Pie and Lunatic not believing I just goofed is wild

I can buy that you goofed. I feel like you are being very over defensive here man.






Lunatic

What was up with that wierd ass last minute push on me when I said hours before that I would be asleep for EOD? I was literally on all day before that you could have pressured me where I could actually have responded. Idk that was pretty fucking sus ngl. Other than that I was town reading magic man but now I’m questioning combined with that wierd CC thing

Lunatic
No, it’s worded in such a way that I believe other Vanillas (if they even exist?) would immediately realise I’m telling the truth. Even assuming scum know what a Vanilla claim looks like, that doesn’t mean the entire town knows. So they could watch for reactions and see who town reads me after saying it, thereby outing the TPRs.

What makes you think there is other vanillas?

Lunatic
Did I play in Kohai‘s last game? Idr.

But if his design style was chaotic back then and it backfired, I can see him adding vanillas.

Games in MU are vanilla heavy, I’ll say that. Kohai does spend some time on MU.

True, and a vanilla being added isn't anything mind bending. I am buying into a lot of mod psyche since mikal helped him in forming this conclusion, but I kind of like the claim.


Lunatic

Technically if you wanted to really be nit picky about it, advocating for a policy lynch on someone for a pfp is "Out of game influence" which is extremely banned according to kohai. Not that I am suggesting anyone should be mod killed or anything, but outside of the insanity of the idea of that policy lynch, it probably should be mentioned that lynching someone because you don't like them for something outside of a mafia is kind of OGI. Just saying.

Lunatic

Mod psyche question: Does anyone think Kohai would significantly have changed his modding style since the last game? A brief look into 1990's-2000's mafia endgame shows me that there was no vanillas, it was a very role heavy swingy game.


Granted I do see mikal helped balance this one, so do you think mikal would have maybe suggested him putting in a vanilla here?

Lunatic
We should not have given Barney or Kohai any mod powers.

Agreed, I think it was grand-fathered in. But to be fair it wasn't them that messaged me, it was savant, and he didn't force me to change it either, just said some of the mods were concerned, and said if I am keeping it they will have to have discussions debated on what to do with controversial profile pics.

Lunatic

Whelp, I am being dm'ed about changing my profile picture. I guess those not privy to the mafia game probably don't know my point was to make fun of thoth and demonstrate having an edgy pfp doesn't mean you believe and support nazi'ism, but whatever. Point still stands.

Lunatic
Of course I don't believe that, and I don't believe that I ever said that. It's just beyond what I think are the boundaries of acceptable profile pictures.

It's an extremely loose narrative to be that upset over a profile picture.


I would still support a policy lynch, but clearly you all think that trivializing Epstein's atrocities is just fine and dandy.

No one is trivializing anything, you jumped to insane conclusions about someone for a profile picture, the same way people villainize people for voting for presidents they don't like and attach all these wild narratives to people who support them. Again my profile picture is a literal serial killer. Do you think I support serial killers, or am trivializing serial killers?


Thank actual God no one is stupid enough to follow this policy lynch, I would genuinely lose faith in this community if they did.

Lunatic

Also I am not good at getting the ball rolling in these things. RVS is one of the main strategies I've used in the past, but it doesn't really work anymore because most people know what it is and what you are doing with it. I am a reactionary reader, look for something that stands out, once I am suspicious of something I explore it, and I will be a high poster as usual, but I don't want to make up some convoluted scum read either. I am here, I am keeping track of things, and I realized we are close to voting time. It might help me develop some scum reads seeing where the wagons go towards the end here. But for now, yeah not a ton to go off of.

Lunatic

Yea like im scrolling through the day phase again, skimming and just not seeing anything that stands out. a lot of the 6 pages has been intro posts, getting soft claims, fluff, etc. Not very substandard for dp1, but at the same time I don't pick up on anything major either. yet.

Lunatic
I have been trying to look for signs he was trolling here because of he is in think it's not affiliation indicative but feigned seriousness could be. I know a scum I often will do stuff like that so I can have an excuse to focus on a single individual and not have to provide in depth analysis. I might do that somewhat as town but as town I can catch myself and redirect my attention. So I was wondering if this is his way to appear active while coasting

I was kind of sus of it too, but not sure if he is just a snowflake, there are a lot of those these days so who knows

Lunatic

I don't have a lot of reads so far, its been kind of an inactive day phase. Mharman feels good, no red flags from pie yet, whiteflame is just inactive. Wylted seems okay, thoth I can't take seriously because of his wylted hate campaign, Banana feels very afk other than a few odd posts, but ive been inactive too, Rex hasn't said a ton, mago doesn't really stand out, yeah kind of a bad dp1 so far

Lunatic
 I guess we aren't ready to sanction someone for representing themselves with a guy who, among other deeds that don't make him a good role model, fucked underage girls and left a five-star review on a torture video.

There is no way you are actually spreading the narrative that wylted endorses rape and torture because of his pfp. You are acting crazy my guy.

Lunatic
RE: Softing talk

At some point someone should make a thread discussing the merits and results of that meta.

I've always thought the idea of softing was fine, its more of how much information we give away. It seems like there has been multiple games where people either soft too much or just full claim for no reason and under no pressure. It's kind of the execution we struggle on, not the meta itself.