Originally Posted by Mikal on 9/1/2026 at 7:55 PM (post #950)
Lowkey I just stopped reading what magic is posting. Town or scum hes just spamming and the arguments are retarted. Lmk the order and im down to hit either
Lol that's because you've already lost the argument. Now ur jusr defaulting to ignoring.
"oh yeah that mag1c guy is just spamming like a retard.. his arguments are trash don't look into those, mmmkay?"
Pay attention, folks. All he can do is play the optics game.
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/1/2026 at 7:06 PM (post #934)
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 7:02 PM (post #931)
It might be a post by pie or Kohai though so I have to do their handwriting analysis
both of them would've been dead when i received this message. I'm asking Banana if my results can include messages from dead scum. If not, I'm either making things up or it was typed by Mikal. And if I can receive messages from dead scum, that would be really stupid.
This is still very much an angle and I'm still awaiting a response from Banana to my question.
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/1/2026 at 7:15 PM (post #939)
Ok, but he put them all on separate lines. You're telling me scum just had this open while typing that? I think it's a coincidence.
And this doesn't erase any of my behavioral arguments. He's not joining you on Magoroth because he knows he can't. Pie has an incentive to pick him. And the fact that Pie clearly copypasted something from scum chat is a tell that he accepted help from an experienced player.
eh. It can't be a coincidence bc Wylted is the only name not capitalized.
Sure.
I'll drop the argument on the first paragraph. But my point in the second paragraph remains.
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 7:21 PM (post #944)
Your right that only addresses one of your arguments. I think you are town tbh after this exchange.
I have a hard time getting past Mago's role though. Like why did he out his role at all? Why is it something that I just seriously doubt banana would add?
It's possible that we all have to just vote once from PM and make it final or he is leaving something like that out.
Mikal's ability does make it dangerous to keep him alive. If he uses it and is scum than this is mylo, but it's only mylo if he is scum. So we could potentially make sure it's not lylo by Lynching him.
I have a good feeling about lunatic and easily picked up his scum vibes last game. So I have a really good feel for lunatic lately. Most of the feeling comes from dp1 but he has appeared okay even following that.
My best explanation is Magoroth was being retarded.
Magoroth, like me, was musing about tailor last DP. As he should. At the time, there was no guarantee Kohai hadn't been tailored into yakuza from what we knew. Scum is more likely to be in the people who were uber confident it was a yakuza the second Kohai flipped. I find it towny from Magoroth.
MAGOROTH IS CLEAR
WYLTED IS CLEAR
LUNATIC IS CLEAR
IT IS BETWEEN MIKAL AND I.
I think Mikal picked it up from Kohai. We know he likes his shorthand.
I couldn't find an instance of Mikal using "ml" to abbreviate "mislynch"... it's a Kohai thing. But you've already ruled Magoroth and Lunatic out.
So if I can't receive messages from dead scum, it's back to being between Mikal and I.
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/1/2026 at 7:16 PM (post #940)
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 7:13 PM (post #938)
Kohai is also the only douchebag here who would just copy paste the names instead of doing them from memory and Mikal double spaces between each line when writing out names
there was a double space in the message i received. Dcraft erases doubles spaces so I cant show you, but it was written
"1 [space] vs [space] [space] 4."
EBWOP
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 7:13 PM (post #938)
Kohai is also the only douchebag here who would just copy paste the names instead of doing them from memory and Mikal double spaces between each line when writing out names
there was a double space in the message i received. Dcraft erases doubles spaces so I cant show you, but it was written
"1 [space] vs [space] space 4."
Ok, but he put them all on separate lines. You're telling me scum just had this open while typing that? I think it's a coincidence.
And this doesn't erase any of my behavioral arguments. He's not joining you on Magoroth because he knows he can't. Pie has an incentive to pick him. And the fact that Pie clearly copypasted something from scum chat is a tell that he accepted help from an experienced player.
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 7:08 PM (post #935)
It means nothing. Look at the top of the page. It lists living players at the top of the page and my name is lower case while everyone's is uppercase. It's just copied and pasted from the list of living players, the order is meaningless
where? The best I can find is on page 1. And every name is lowercase.
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 7:02 PM (post #931)
It might be a post by pie or Kohai though so I have to do their handwriting analysis
both of them would've been dead when i received this message. I'm asking Banana if my results can include messages from dead scum. If not, I'm either making things up or it was typed by Mikal. And if I can receive messages from dead scum, that would be really stupid.
NP2:
"After tonight we'll be 1 vs 4.
Mikal
Mag1cman
Lunatic
wylted
Magoroth
We need 2 mls to win"
Mikal is the 1. Mag1cman, Lunatic, Wylted, and Magoroth are the 4.
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 6:40 PM (post #924)
The second message actually sounds like how Kohai writes. The first one was obviously pie.
Show me a single example of Mikal using "ml" in place of mislynch and I will vote him though
UNVOTE
I'll go look but:
"1v4" followed by a list of names that puts Mikal at the 1 is very damning.
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 6:41 PM (post #925)
We already have a cop why would you bring able to read scum messages make any sense at all?
My role doesn't always guarantee I get anything useful with it. It's random.
I could get anything from "Mikal I'm your buddy Pie please listen to me and get Lunatic mislynched tomorrow" to "lol"
And the three roles you have here are magoroth's role, my role, and Thoth's cop. There can absolutely be three investigatives in a game with freaking yakuza. It's a literally a yakuza. Plus recruiting one of the investigatives is great.
Pie's watcher was fake so it doesn't matter here.
I want to lynch Mikal this DP. I'm so utterly confident that he's scum I'm pulling out the "if not him, me" Among Us-style.
I don't want even the slightest chance for him to pull something with some ability he has and lock the game up after this DP.
But if you people really can't bring yourselves to lynch him this DP despite everything, then you have two other options.
1) You lynch me to confirm my results are real, and then you turbolynch Mikal tomorrow
or better than that...
2) You lynch Magoroth and force Mikal to hammer to test him. If votes are anonymous you know it's Mikal. And if they aren't, you know it's me.
... but lynching Mikal is better than both.
Please, do not ignore what I have to say here. Take the time to understand and appreciate it. And Wylted for the love stop letting Mikal snow you so easily.
Originally Posted by Mikal on 9/1/2026 at 5:15 PM (post #915)
I said luna was town yesterday
Pie flipping and who he targeted makes me second guess that. I know pie didnt pick me. Think there is no shot he picked mago. Wylted is way less likley so its you its you or luna
You are doing the spazzy weird conspiracy theory shit and tried ti move off pie. You also would be at the top of who pie picked.
But looking back after pies flip and luna claiming vanilla (this dp) pie daid he watched you. Makes sense if he used a role on you and someone saw him go to you. Its a way to safe claim. So yeah luna seemed town but reading back with the flip and what we know, there is a possibility luna gave pie his claim after he was yakuzaed to see if they could get people off which is why luna is claiming vanilla. Luna would do that and bus. It also seems like he set up mago for a mislynch.
Im sure its one of you two. So dont care how we lynch. Just that it needs to be between you both.
lol of course you would say you know Pie didn't pick you. But you don't have any argument against it.
And why would Pie be thinking about a watcher seeing him visit me? He claimed it so he clearly used one of his questions on it. At which point he has no reason to be concerned about it.
So from your pov you should be on me even more, but you're thinking about Luna because you need to keep your options open. We know you aren't going to have Magoroth as an option because that would town confirm someone with you dancing around not hammering him, or you
You're so scum it's painfully obvious. On results and behavior.
I'm shocked Magoroth and Lunatic haven't insta-lynched you. Wylted feels like a lost cause but I'll keep trying.
And yes, the thing about Pie was worth exploring. But I wasn't going to lead town off him. If that was my plan, boy did I get sidetracked analyzing literally everything else.
Call it spazzy all you want. I'm fine with people sussing me for it, but y'all need to recognize that it can be literally no one else but me or Mikal.
I have a role that makes sense. I have results that clearly incriminate Mikal. And Mikal has been doing everything he can to ally with Wylted and push Lunatic and me with bad arguments.
Pie won't recruit Magoroth bc Magoroth was already sussed DP1. He won't take Lunatic because he's signing up to bussed by Lunatic if he does that. With how hard he fought that, I doubt it.
His options are Wylted, Mikal, or myself.
We can rule out Wylted on behavior. No scum would want to mislynch Magoroth here because of his role.
Again, down to Mikal and I.
You can call a few of my posts sus, but that was by design to ensure that I survived into this DP, so I could get a result with my role. You can say that people appreciate, and sometimes double space, but you can't argue that those two things plus the writer of that message putting mikal as the 1 in the 1v4, amounts to nothing. It's way stronger than y'all are giving credit for. Just look where Mikal was last DP. Completely in the background. Look at what he's doing this DP, going for Lunatic and I specifically, trying to buddy with Wylted, avoiding Magoroth. Look at the fact that Pie blatantly copy-pasted a part of his post from the scum chat last DP, indicating that an experienced player like Mikal was helping him.
Also, how does Mikal go from "I'm pretty sure Lunatic is town" to "my gut says it's Lunatic"
yeah, he's probably still gonna vote me first but
???
Instead of trying to help Pie, I went on my own adventure, going out of my way to analyze the incentives of every player who could've possibly been OG scum. And had I died in the night phase, it would have been helpful to any townie paying attention to it.
Originally Posted by Mikal on 9/1/2026 at 1:30 PM (post #897)
Did this same shit last game. My head says magic cus hes spazzy and the detract off pie
But my gut is screaming luna. Was like him and pie were tying to set up a mislynch on mago and luna will bus with a small on his face to win.
But magic defending mago makes no sense as scum
Wasn't detracting from his wagon. Just exploring all the possibilities.
If I really wanted to defend Pie from a lynch, I would be pinging everyone with evidence, demanding we lynch someone not named Pie. Instead, Pie was basically pounding his fist wanting us to lynch Magoroth, and I didn't help him. His irritation with me is spew that reveals me as town. He thought I would eventually overthink my way into saving him. And when I didn't do it, he got upset.
Originally Posted by Mikal on 9/1/2026 at 10:22 AM (post #837)
Pretty sure luna is town but would never put it pass luna to bus.
My role is verified.
Want a claim list. Assumed wykted said Miller becajse someone said he means a cop is in the game
Question is who would pie yazkua.
David did not pick that pie did
Answer is luna or magic.
Magaroth I or wylted would never have been a yakuza target. I was casey and inactive pie would have picked someone to play with
Order should be magic and luna and game is solved
Bad argument. It was obvious Mikal was going to replace in for Casey the second Rex was lynched. One inactive + one replacement... you do the math folks.
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/1/2026 at 3:09 PM (post #908)
Wylted wanting to lynch Magoroth is towny.
I would rather we just lynch Mikal straight-up, but btw, if we really want to we can force someone to hammer Magoroth. If we do this, you know my pick is Mikal.
And this idea is probably why Mikal wants to lynch Lunatic or I and why he doesn’t want to go with Wylted against Magoroth. Because then he has to position himself around not being the hammer which could look awkward. And someone else gets town confirmed, which shrinks his list of people he could get mislynched.
The more details I notice, the more I think Mikal is scum.
If you’re scum here, you don’t want Magoroth being lynched. The only two players who don’t want that are me (I would rather min-max shutting down Mikal’s ability 100%) and Mikal, who is hard pushing and Lunatic and I.
so it’s either Mikal or I. Lynch Mikal. And if it’s not him, you can lynch me.
Wylted wanting to lynch Magoroth is towny.
I would rather we just lynch Mikal straight-up, but btw, if we really want to we can force someone to hammer Magoroth. If we do this, you know my pick is Mikal.
And this idea is probably why Mikal wants to lynch Lunatic or I and why he doesn’t want to go with Wylted against Magoroth. Because then he has to position himself around not being the hammer which could look awkward. And someone else gets town confirmed, which shrinks his list of people he could get mislynched.
The more details I notice, the more I think Mikal is scum.
If you’re scum here, you don’t want Magoroth being lynched. The only two players who don’t want that are me (I would rather min-max shutting down Mikal’s ability 100%) and Mikal, who is hard pushing and Lunatic and I.
so it’s either Mikal or I. Lynch Mikal. And if it’s not him, you can lynch me.
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 2:36 PM (post #904)
If Wylted were scum he'd be more aware of that fact that his teammate is flipped scum. Instead it just looks like he thought Pie flipped town because he skimmed over something.
I think you are misunderstanding my take.
My opinion is that his arguments don't cease to be good despite him being scum. It's a major issue that mago has an ability that banana who is generally on the lower end of active would give him a role that would require her to do a ton of extra unnecessary work
he’s throwing great shade on his own teammate then. I doubt it.
and if you think it’s Magoroth, why don’t you trust my results then?
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 12:54 PM (post #891)
Need you to help me solve. Cus i woild have picked luna or magic esp with luna behavior dp1
I will look closer when I get home. Your point about magic trying to throw off the pie lynch is a great point and he was waffling on voting the entire time. I think we definitely should punish that sort of thing tbh.
Pie also is going to put somebody in chat he enjoys interacting with. I will take your word that he likes magica company
UNVOTE
VTL: Mag1cman
Are you just ignoring the whole big ass post I wrote? #862 nigga come one now
I explained this already. I was gonna hammer PIe. Just wanted to get my thoughts out, plus I knew people sussing me for would ensure I made it to this DP, meaning I have a second result for my role.. At least you sussing me for it means it kinda worked.
Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 9:29 AM (post #831)
I think Pie was onto something tbh
VTL: Magoroth
I'm lowkey buying this as a real derp. If Wylted were scum he'd be more aware of that fact that his teammate is flipped scum. Instead it just looks like he thought Pie flipped town because he skimmed over something.
Also #856
