Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 7:23 PM (post #422)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 5:03 PM (post #418)
Yakuza may have been the role that was going to be revealed to us.
100%. Had to have been. Wouldn’t have helped us with the activity though since we would have needed to mass claim and were missing two players. Glad the no was achieved
idk bc it gets revealed 1 day later, now that I think about it. hmmmm.
Tailor maybe.
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/31/2026 at 5:12 PM (post #799)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 8:39 PM (post #685)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 7:16 PM (post #639)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 PM (post #527)
Anyways, I’m going to get back to the strategy I came up with in Alien Mafia. The goal is to find the OG scum first based on motives of everyone. It does require everyone to full claim so that we can determine those motivations.
High level, I think we can eliminate Luna from the category because of his early attention on Kohai. I know I’m not scum. That leaves:
Perhaps, but he stuck to you. I like Lunatic on behavior, I'll say that. But in the same way DP1 I saw a world where Thoth was always your first choice and Kohai was second, I can see a world where Lunatic kept his sus on Kohai but was always gonna push you first. Worth noting.
Mag1c
I would've hammered you all day every day if I were scum. Last game, I pushed to get you lynched, and then killed you when I couldn't lol. Even if you stopped sussing me that game, it was worth killing you just so that you couldn't argue your way out of a lynch. You are the master of that.
Wylted
Thoth
Kohai was one of two original scum. Miller and cop go hand-in-hand, so odds are Thoth and Wylted confirm each other as OG town. Unless we really think Wylted pulled off a crazy big brain play. Wylted is capable but he loves his PGO/miller shenanigans, so I doubt it. He also hinted that he was miller before everyone entered thread, so he probably is just a real miller.
Mago
I don't know what to think of his claim or the timing of it. He followed his scum meta DP1, and with his partner being a yakuza, he would need to survive that DP.
Mikal
His claim is interesting. Given that it's in the game, Banana clearly had no problem with it being scum. The question is if she gave it to scum or if it were designed to be a role that scum could pick up. If it's the latter, not Mikal.
Mag1c is pure big brain. I can see the strategy with him and Kohai at EOD. Goal was to get REF so they could kill two birds with one stone and the switch to Pie was theatric. I think this is unlikely though, and my townread of him during DP1 was pretty solid.
Theatrical? lol how?
Also, you referring to yourself in the 3rd person gives me the impression you may have copy-pasted this from the scum chat. If this is the case, I expect a higher-level player to be with you in scum chat. I don't think a lower-level player would help you write a convincing reads list. You don't need the help, but I think you would accept it from a higher-level player.
Wylted is an interesting one. He’s pulled this Miller ploy before when he was scum with Luna. They basically cruised to the win in that game. I can see the same thing here. Take the fake claims. Soft claim Dreamer early and then come out with Miller.
He did this before? Wait, as in he claimed miller at the start, or that he faked something, then claimed miller later?
Thoth also is interesting, but is reliant upon Wylted. In certain ways they’re intertwined. I don’t think Thoth can be the OG if Wylted is telling the truth about Miller.
This.
Mago I can see being the OG scum. He was in the shadows (normal scum meta). The dynamic between him the Kohai was non existent. The questioning about Yakuza also came off a bit disingenuous to me, especially with the side quest of Tailor. No reason to believe there’s a Tailor or anything similar
Yup. Although I don't find his tailor musings to be completely unfounded. It's worth exploring, especially since it existed last game. This one would have to function differently than the last, sure, but I don't blame Magoroth for exploring the idea.
Mikal is hard to judge as OG scum from posts. Only thing there to read is Kohai chose REX over Casey/Mikal initially. The role Mikal has though is really powerful for scum if used correctly. It basically reduces a town vote. At 3-2 LYLO, town instantly loses because they lose the ability to gain a majority. Magistrate is also an exotic role. We have Watcher, Miller, Doctor, Cop, and then a Magistrate?
True. Saying it again, Banana is ok with scum having this role. Question is if she wanted scum to have it from the start, or if it were something cool scum could pick up. I somewhat lean toward the latter on mod psych, as the role has plenty of usage on either town or scum that way. I know if I gave a scum a recruitment mech, I would try to give town roles that would be like prizes for mafia recruiters. But my mind is open.
As for all the power roles town has: I can see them all with a yakuza in play. A recruitment isn't a roleblock, but since you change someone's affiliation, you prevent them from outing you as scum DP2 if they have a result. And if night actions process how I think, scum's recruit target shouldn't be ruled guilty the night they were recruited. I am asking Banana about this. It's not just relevant here; it's also relevant for the case against you.
@Pie let's start with this post. First, there's a small chance that you are OG scum and just tried to gamble a watcher claim. Although it is unlikely bc your DP1 behavior does match watcher. Unless you picked up what I was putting down last DP and are playing to that as scum by claiming watcher.
OG scum pool: Mag1c, Pie, Magoroth, Mikal, Lunatic
Now let's build a recruit pool using incentives, using the OG scum pool.
Idk who you think I'd have the most to least incentive to recruit, so I'll leave it up to you.
If you're (Pie) OG scum, you're probably recruiting either Mikal, me, or Lunatic. Thoth is an option just to find out his role. Magoroth and Wylted are for mindgames only. But given the four candidates already here, I doubt you'd go for mindgames by recruiting Magoroth or Wylted.
If you picked up Thoth was investigative, then he's a fantastic option. Problem is, he's hard bussing you rn with results and I don't think he has to do that.
So me, Lunatic, or Mikal. I can't speak on myself outside of what I've already said; I know I'm town.
Lunatic or Mikal? Lunatic not bussing you would be sus. And you know that. So you're signing up to be bussed if you recruit him. That leaves Mikal. Best option for you IMO.
Although if Mikal and I are the only good options, maybe you would try some mindgames. Although yeah, Magoroth was sussed so that's even more mindgames. And Wylted doesn't have a good role to take, unless you genuinenly thought he was dreamer. hmm. Your posts seem to indicate you did. But you could also just pay Wylted a visit then. Although you'd risk him actually being a PGO. Not a bad risk to take considering the situation tbh. Odds seem low he was actually PGO.
Also for Thoth, why pressure him so much DP1 if you can just figure him out upon recruiting? Unless you were scouting for something to recruit? You (Pie) would've pressed even more people for info at that point tho... so I don't think that was your plan.
TEAM COMBOS IF PIE OG SCUM (RANKED IMO)
1Pie-2Mikal
1Pie-2Wylted
1Pie-2Lunatic
1Pie-2Thoth
1Pie-2Magoroth
Imma make a call and drop the bottom three for now. They just seem too unlikely to me.
And I'll get back to this later. Imma do some gaming
Getting back to this. Now let's assume Magoroth is OG scum. Who does he have the most incentive to recruit? Figuring out what Thoth's role is would be good, although Thoth isn't one of the site's strongest players.
Given that he was going for Pie last DP, it makes little sense for him to want Pie. He could, sure, but it's not what looks like his plan was. So from scum Magoroth's POV, he probably wants to recruit someone who helps him lynch Pie. If Thoth has an investigative, that could produce damaging results on Pie.
But Lunatic has been on Pie all game long. Why not him? The downside is that if he isn't investigative, then someone could clear Pie or show him guilty. Same goes for Mikal. I can see Magoroth misunderstanding the timing of investigatives in the order of operations, and then recruiting someone not realizing an investigative could still pop them. But that leaves the issue of Pie being cleared.
Unless Magoroth has framer. Then, he can recruit someone like Lunatic or Mikal, without having to recruit Thoth. I imagine Magoroth in particular would be less likely to visit Wylted, with his PGO mindgames. Unless Kohai picked up on it. But then they know he's a miller and wouldn't want to recruit him.
That presents another avenue for manipulation by the way. A deflector could take any role that targets Pie and move it to Wylted.
So, Lunatic, or Mikal? Mikal has just been replaced in. Lunatic will help mislynch Pie. I think Mikal is the slightly better option because Lunatic being on Pie is already guaranteed this DP, basically. While Lunatic was widely townread, that, in a way, means he's not as likely, due to mindgames. Mikal can get himself townread. And with town's focus on Pie, Mikal isn't going to be the next lynch.
TEAM COMBOS IF MAGOROTH OG SCUM (RANKED IMO)
1Magoroth-2Mikal
1Magoroth-2Lunatic
1Magoroth-2Thoth
1Magoroth-2Pie
1Magoroth-2Wylted
Once again, I think the bottom two are way too outside the realm of possibility.
Moving onto Mikal.
Once again, Wylted is a poor option. Unless Mikal thought dreamer. I guess Magoroth could have too. But then Wylted claiming miller when he did is just strange. He still claimed it before so many people did... but he could've asked about it using the questions format. I guess he's a mindgames option, but eh. Why not just disturb Wylted then? I don't think Magoroth or Mikal are as limited as Pie in their options, so going for mindgames with Wylted isn't as appealing for either of them.
Thoth, Lunatic, or Pie?
I can see Mikal using his voting role to throw a sus on Lunatic while ensuring he doesn't vote for Pie, hoping to save Pie that way. But if that were his plan, wouldn't he have concealed his ability and not claimed? So probably not Pie. But going for Lunatic ties both together. There's Thoth, who has an investigative, but can scumslip/tmislip easily.
Well, Lunatic and I did get away with stting up the easy win and we tied ourelves together. I can see Mikal taking Lunatic over Pie, over Thoth. I think Mikal in particular wouldn't want Thoth. He knows Thoth's potential to slip and knows it bluntly. But then again, if he's the OG scum, this looks like a plot against Pie.
I don't think he's take Magoroth based on him being sussed by me last DP.
TEAM COMBOS IF MIKAL OG SCUM (RANKED IMO)
1Mikal-2Lunatic
1Mikal-2Thoth
1Mikal-2Pie
1Mikal-2Wylted
1Mikal-2Magoroth
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 8:39 PM (post #685)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 7:16 PM (post #639)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 PM (post #527)
Anyways, I’m going to get back to the strategy I came up with in Alien Mafia. The goal is to find the OG scum first based on motives of everyone. It does require everyone to full claim so that we can determine those motivations.
High level, I think we can eliminate Luna from the category because of his early attention on Kohai. I know I’m not scum. That leaves:
Perhaps, but he stuck to you. I like Lunatic on behavior, I'll say that. But in the same way DP1 I saw a world where Thoth was always your first choice and Kohai was second, I can see a world where Lunatic kept his sus on Kohai but was always gonna push you first. Worth noting.
Mag1c
I would've hammered you all day every day if I were scum. Last game, I pushed to get you lynched, and then killed you when I couldn't lol. Even if you stopped sussing me that game, it was worth killing you just so that you couldn't argue your way out of a lynch. You are the master of that.
Wylted
Thoth
Kohai was one of two original scum. Miller and cop go hand-in-hand, so odds are Thoth and Wylted confirm each other as OG town. Unless we really think Wylted pulled off a crazy big brain play. Wylted is capable but he loves his PGO/miller shenanigans, so I doubt it. He also hinted that he was miller before everyone entered thread, so he probably is just a real miller.
Mago
I don't know what to think of his claim or the timing of it. He followed his scum meta DP1, and with his partner being a yakuza, he would need to survive that DP.
Mikal
His claim is interesting. Given that it's in the game, Banana clearly had no problem with it being scum. The question is if she gave it to scum or if it were designed to be a role that scum could pick up. If it's the latter, not Mikal.
Mag1c is pure big brain. I can see the strategy with him and Kohai at EOD. Goal was to get REF so they could kill two birds with one stone and the switch to Pie was theatric. I think this is unlikely though, and my townread of him during DP1 was pretty solid.
Theatrical? lol how?
Also, you referring to yourself in the 3rd person gives me the impression you may have copy-pasted this from the scum chat. If this is the case, I expect a higher-level player to be with you in scum chat. I don't think a lower-level player would help you write a convincing reads list. You don't need the help, but I think you would accept it from a higher-level player.
Wylted is an interesting one. He’s pulled this Miller ploy before when he was scum with Luna. They basically cruised to the win in that game. I can see the same thing here. Take the fake claims. Soft claim Dreamer early and then come out with Miller.
He did this before? Wait, as in he claimed miller at the start, or that he faked something, then claimed miller later?
Thoth also is interesting, but is reliant upon Wylted. In certain ways they’re intertwined. I don’t think Thoth can be the OG if Wylted is telling the truth about Miller.
This.
Mago I can see being the OG scum. He was in the shadows (normal scum meta). The dynamic between him the Kohai was non existent. The questioning about Yakuza also came off a bit disingenuous to me, especially with the side quest of Tailor. No reason to believe there’s a Tailor or anything similar
Yup. Although I don't find his tailor musings to be completely unfounded. It's worth exploring, especially since it existed last game. This one would have to function differently than the last, sure, but I don't blame Magoroth for exploring the idea.
Mikal is hard to judge as OG scum from posts. Only thing there to read is Kohai chose REX over Casey/Mikal initially. The role Mikal has though is really powerful for scum if used correctly. It basically reduces a town vote. At 3-2 LYLO, town instantly loses because they lose the ability to gain a majority. Magistrate is also an exotic role. We have Watcher, Miller, Doctor, Cop, and then a Magistrate?
True. Saying it again, Banana is ok with scum having this role. Question is if she wanted scum to have it from the start, or if it were something cool scum could pick up. I somewhat lean toward the latter on mod psych, as the role has plenty of usage on either town or scum that way. I know if I gave a scum a recruitment mech, I would try to give town roles that would be like prizes for mafia recruiters. But my mind is open.
As for all the power roles town has: I can see them all with a yakuza in play. A recruitment isn't a roleblock, but since you change someone's affiliation, you prevent them from outing you as scum DP2 if they have a result. And if night actions process how I think, scum's recruit target shouldn't be ruled guilty the night they were recruited. I am asking Banana about this. It's not just relevant here; it's also relevant for the case against you.
@Pie let's start with this post. First, there's a small chance that you are OG scum and just tried to gamble a watcher claim. Although it is unlikely bc your DP1 behavior does match watcher. Unless you picked up what I was putting down last DP and are playing to that as scum by claiming watcher.
OG scum pool: Mag1c, Pie, Magoroth, Mikal, Lunatic
Now let's build a recruit pool using incentives, using the OG scum pool.
Idk who you think I'd have the most to least incentive to recruit, so I'll leave it up to you.
If you're (Pie) OG scum, you're probably recruiting either Mikal, me, or Lunatic. Thoth is an option just to find out his role. Magoroth and Wylted are for mindgames only. But given the four candidates already here, I doubt you'd go for mindgames by recruiting Magoroth or Wylted.
If you picked up Thoth was investigative, then he's a fantastic option. Problem is, he's hard bussing you rn with results and I don't think he has to do that.
So me, Lunatic, or Mikal. I can't speak on myself outside of what I've already said; I know I'm town.
Lunatic or Mikal? Lunatic not bussing you would be sus. And you know that. So you're signing up to be bussed if you recruit him. That leaves Mikal. Best option for you IMO.
Although if Mikal and I are the only good options, maybe you would try some mindgames. Although yeah, Magoroth was sussed so that's even more mindgames. And Wylted doesn't have a good role to take, unless you genuinenly thought he was dreamer. hmm. Your posts seem to indicate you did. But you could also just pay Wylted a visit then. Although you'd risk him actually being a PGO. Not a bad risk to take considering the situation tbh. Odds seem low he was actually PGO.
Also for Thoth, why pressure him so much DP1 if you can just figure him out upon recruiting? Unless you were scouting for something to recruit? You (Pie) would've pressed even more people for info at that point tho... so I don't think that was your plan.
TEAM COMBOS IF PIE OG SCUM (RANKED IMO)
1Pie-2Mikal
1Pie-2Wylted
1Pie-2Lunatic
1Pie-2Thoth
1Pie-2Magoroth
Imma make a call and drop the bottom three for now. They just seem too unlikely to me.
And I'll get back to this later. Imma do some gaming
Getting back to this. Now let's assume Magoroth is OG scum. Who does he have the most incentive to recruit? Figuring out what Thoth's role is would be good, although Thoth isn't one of the site's strongest players.
Given that he was going for Pie last DP, it makes little sense for him to want Pie. He could, sure, but it's not what looks like his plan was. So from scum Magoroth's POV, he probably wants to recruit someone who helps him lynch Pie. If Thoth has an investigative, that could produce damaging results on Pie.
But Lunatic has been on Pie all game long. Why not him? The downside is that if he isn't investigative, then someone could clear Pie or show him guilty. Same goes for Mikal. I can see Magoroth misunderstanding the timing of investigatives in the order of operations, and then recruiting someone not realizing an investigative could still pop them. But that leaves the issue of Pie being cleared.
Unless Magoroth has framer. Then, he can recruit someone like Lunatic or Mikal, without having to recruit Thoth. I imagine Magoroth in particular would be less likely to visit Wylted, with his PGO mindgames. Unless Kohai picked up on it. But then they know he's a miller and wouldn't want to recruit him.
That presents another avenue for manipulation by the way. A deflector could take any role that targets Pie and move it to Wylted.
So, Lunatic, or Mikal? Mikal has just been replaced in. Lunatic will help mislynch Pie. I think Mikal is the slightly better option because Lunatic being on Pie is already guaranteed this DP, basically. While Lunatic was widely townread, that, in a way, means he's not as likely, due to mindgames. Mikal can get himself townread. And with town's focus on Pie, Mikal isn't going to be the next lynch.
TEAM COMBOS IF MAGOROTH OG SCUM (RANKED IMO)
1Magoroth-2Mikal
1Magoroth-2Lunatic
1Magoroth-2Thoth
1Magoroth-2Pie
1Magoroth-2Wylted
Once again, I think the bottom two are way too outside the realm of possibility.
here
I gotta go run a couple errands and then I’ll be back to give thoughts + finish my solve effort
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/31/2026 at 12:00 PM (post #771)
Lynching Mago is guaranteeing an investigation tomorrow. Lynching me is equal to zero tomorrow. I really don’t see the downside
Mago mislynch + redirect Mikal to Pie. That’s the downside. Or just sending your teammate to D4. That’s the downside.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/31/2026 at 12:28 AM (post #746)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 11:09 PM (post #745)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/31/2026 at 12:07 AM (post #744)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 28/08/2026 at 17:27 (post #378)
I can see exactly one world in which Pie is town rn
I know it’s late but which world?
the one where he claims investigative
He claimed Watcher
im aware
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/30/2026 at 8:50 PM (post #688)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 4:09 PM (post #635)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:00 PM (post #436)
Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/28/2026 at 6:53 PM (post #435)
Enough to glance. I think your town this game. Behvaior seems normal compared to last one. Back to being aggressive yada yada. Yakuza is dead so I can confirm myself. I blocked you from voting or being lynched
Any reason you chose me? Your probably town
such a fast clear for no reason
He was town dp1, that I’m pretty sure of. He could have been recruited. His character claim is like the main character, plus his role is OP as fuck for mafia.
i know but the way you wrote this doesn't indicate you were thinking about the possibility of him being recruited
dawg we have until 6pm tomorrow lol
im hopping on champions rn
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 7:16 PM (post #639)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 PM (post #527)
Anyways, I’m going to get back to the strategy I came up with in Alien Mafia. The goal is to find the OG scum first based on motives of everyone. It does require everyone to full claim so that we can determine those motivations.
High level, I think we can eliminate Luna from the category because of his early attention on Kohai. I know I’m not scum. That leaves:
Perhaps, but he stuck to you. I like Lunatic on behavior, I'll say that. But in the same way DP1 I saw a world where Thoth was always your first choice and Kohai was second, I can see a world where Lunatic kept his sus on Kohai but was always gonna push you first. Worth noting.
Mag1c
I would've hammered you all day every day if I were scum. Last game, I pushed to get you lynched, and then killed you when I couldn't lol. Even if you stopped sussing me that game, it was worth killing you just so that you couldn't argue your way out of a lynch. You are the master of that.
Wylted
Thoth
Kohai was one of two original scum. Miller and cop go hand-in-hand, so odds are Thoth and Wylted confirm each other as OG town. Unless we really think Wylted pulled off a crazy big brain play. Wylted is capable but he loves his PGO/miller shenanigans, so I doubt it. He also hinted that he was miller before everyone entered thread, so he probably is just a real miller.
Mago
I don't know what to think of his claim or the timing of it. He followed his scum meta DP1, and with his partner being a yakuza, he would need to survive that DP.
Mikal
His claim is interesting. Given that it's in the game, Banana clearly had no problem with it being scum. The question is if she gave it to scum or if it were designed to be a role that scum could pick up. If it's the latter, not Mikal.
Mag1c is pure big brain. I can see the strategy with him and Kohai at EOD. Goal was to get REF so they could kill two birds with one stone and the switch to Pie was theatric. I think this is unlikely though, and my townread of him during DP1 was pretty solid.
Theatrical? lol how?
Also, you referring to yourself in the 3rd person gives me the impression you may have copy-pasted this from the scum chat. If this is the case, I expect a higher-level player to be with you in scum chat. I don't think a lower-level player would help you write a convincing reads list. You don't need the help, but I think you would accept it from a higher-level player.
Wylted is an interesting one. He’s pulled this Miller ploy before when he was scum with Luna. They basically cruised to the win in that game. I can see the same thing here. Take the fake claims. Soft claim Dreamer early and then come out with Miller.
He did this before? Wait, as in he claimed miller at the start, or that he faked something, then claimed miller later?
Thoth also is interesting, but is reliant upon Wylted. In certain ways they’re intertwined. I don’t think Thoth can be the OG if Wylted is telling the truth about Miller.
This.
Mago I can see being the OG scum. He was in the shadows (normal scum meta). The dynamic between him the Kohai was non existent. The questioning about Yakuza also came off a bit disingenuous to me, especially with the side quest of Tailor. No reason to believe there’s a Tailor or anything similar
Yup. Although I don't find his tailor musings to be completely unfounded. It's worth exploring, especially since it existed last game. This one would have to function differently than the last, sure, but I don't blame Magoroth for exploring the idea.
Mikal is hard to judge as OG scum from posts. Only thing there to read is Kohai chose REX over Casey/Mikal initially. The role Mikal has though is really powerful for scum if used correctly. It basically reduces a town vote. At 3-2 LYLO, town instantly loses because they lose the ability to gain a majority. Magistrate is also an exotic role. We have Watcher, Miller, Doctor, Cop, and then a Magistrate?
True. Saying it again, Banana is ok with scum having this role. Question is if she wanted scum to have it from the start, or if it were something cool scum could pick up. I somewhat lean toward the latter on mod psych, as the role has plenty of usage on either town or scum that way. I know if I gave a scum a recruitment mech, I would try to give town roles that would be like prizes for mafia recruiters. But my mind is open.
As for all the power roles town has: I can see them all with a yakuza in play. A recruitment isn't a roleblock, but since you change someone's affiliation, you prevent them from outing you as scum DP2 if they have a result. And if night actions process how I think, scum's recruit target shouldn't be ruled guilty the night they were recruited. I am asking Banana about this. It's not just relevant here; it's also relevant for the case against you.
@Pie let's start with this post. First, there's a small chance that you are OG scum and just tried to gamble a watcher claim. Although it is unlikely bc your DP1 behavior does match watcher. Unless you picked up what I was putting down last DP and are playing to that as scum by claiming watcher.
OG scum pool: Mag1c, Pie, Magoroth, Mikal, Lunatic
Now let's build a recruit pool using incentives, using the OG scum pool.
Idk who you think I'd have the most to least incentive to recruit, so I'll leave it up to you.
If you're (Pie) OG scum, you're probably recruiting either Mikal, me, or Lunatic. Thoth is an option just to find out his role. Magoroth and Wylted are for mindgames only. But given the four candidates already here, I doubt you'd go for mindgames by recruiting Magoroth or Wylted.
If you picked up Thoth was investigative, then he's a fantastic option. Problem is, he's hard bussing you rn with results and I don't think he has to do that.
So me, Lunatic, or Mikal. I can't speak on myself outside of what I've already said; I know I'm town.
Lunatic or Mikal? Lunatic not bussing you would be sus. And you know that. So you're signing up to be bussed if you recruit him. That leaves Mikal. Best option for you IMO.
Although if Mikal and I are the only good options, maybe you would try some mindgames. Although yeah, Magoroth was sussed so that's even more mindgames. And Wylted doesn't have a good role to take, unless you genuinenly thought he was dreamer. hmm. Your posts seem to indicate you did. But you could also just pay Wylted a visit then. Although you'd risk him actually being a PGO. Not a bad risk to take considering the situation tbh. Odds seem low he was actually PGO.
Also for Thoth, why pressure him so much DP1 if you can just figure him out upon recruiting? Unless you were scouting for something to recruit? You (Pie) would've pressed even more people for info at that point tho... so I don't think that was your plan.
TEAM COMBOS IF PIE OG SCUM (RANKED IMO)
1Pie-2Mikal
1Pie-2Wylted
1Pie-2Lunatic
1Pie-2Thoth
1Pie-2Magoroth
Imma make a call and drop the bottom three for now. They just seem too unlikely to me.
And I'll get back to this later. Imma do some gaming
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/30/2026 at 8:19 PM (post #682)
Here’s an idea:
Let me confirm myself today with Mago’s role. I’ll hammer today. If votes are anonymous tomorrow instalynch me.
Upside is that you’re guaranteed results. Mago is still likely to be OG scum or a convert. His odds of either/or are higher than anyone else. Idt he’s even stated what his role is called yet.
i'll consider it
how much time left in the DP?
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/30/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #675)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 7:02 PM (post #663)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 2:14 AM (post #579)
Jokes aside, I think this day phase is now old enough that I can legally flip it on its back and raw-dog it.
I am Dani Acosta, Methodical Cop. Justification is that Dani Acosta is methodical and a cop. I submitted a list of players before the end of day 1. Each night, I cop the highest player on the list, skipping dead players, including anyone who dies that night.
I would rather not post my list to stop scum from interfering on the off chance I survive this day phase, but Pie was my first choice and I got a guilty result on him last night. Any defenses I made of him or suggestions we move to someone else were reaction tests.
VTL: ILikePie5
seems so weird... why claim now and not at the start of the DP?
and if you submit a list, then do you actually visit the players?
He’s done this type of shit before where he hides stuff. It was in one of my games.
as town or scum?
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 5:41 PM (post #625)
Re: "You never investigate the scummiest person."
By that logic, scum should never frame the scummiest person since they will never be investigated, so this reduces to garden-variety WIFOM. Notwithstanding that this is an admission that you were the scummiest person, at least going into Night 1, unless you only meant the scummiest person from my perspective.
I mean, yeah, there's a lot of mindgames to night actions.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/30/2026 at 8:08 PM (post #672)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 5:16 PM (post #637)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 2:35 AM (post #467)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 5:46 PM (post #414)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/28/2026 at 4:44 PM (post #411)
Imma have to read up from last DP this evening since I missed about half of it. The good news is that the Yakuza does not change town/scum count versus a night-kill.
True. And it’s not like there were a lot of hard claims or anything so we are kind of just as much at square one as we were yesterday with the added benefit of knowing pie is likely confirmed scum based on kohai not voting him yesterday.
Or he was just framing me. Your mind is set anyways. If you have legitimate questions that would allow you to change your mind, feel free to ask
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 2:52 AM (post #483)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 1:40 AM (post #470)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:32 AM (post #275)
If we lynch pie, and he flips scum, look into kohai. Pie has been strangely avoidant of him this game, he always pressures kohai.
This almost locks Lunatic or Pie as the other OG scum if you ask me.
Explain this logic to me. If I’m Kohai and know I’m the Yakuza. Do I take the lynch on Pie first and pray REF doesn’t get replaced or take the REF lynch and frame Pie at the same time? I think it’s common sense.
Credit to this, yes. But you're Pie. There's a chance Kohai wanted you on his team that badly.
Ya but you have to think about his partner too. Would his partner really agree to pick me?
maybe. you either talk your way out of getting lynched... or, you just get bussed for towncred. The latter isn't as appealing, admittedly.
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 4:55 AM (post #597)
There is an exchange somewhere today where Pie tells Thoth he sucks at endgaming bc he would 1v1 him as town and he would lose. In light of Thoths reveal this looks like real frustration at being scum and not being able to do this on Pie’s, which makes Thoth effectively confirmed Town.
I think Wylted is scummiest, I abandon what I said ab Mac1cman. Followed by IMO Mikal for basically stating he wanted to confirm himself noe that Yakuza is dead. This is the type of fake derp he drops as scum. Ofc its also possible its a genuinr mistale, idk how Yakuza works in general.
Lunatic is also a possibility due to how subdued Pie’s responses are to Lunatic, but it looks like Lunatic has no issues talking to pie, its a one sided thing
what I’ll say is, if Pie is actually telling the truth about Mag1cman being his top town read and its not just bullshit, Mag1c might be the one he sent Kohai to recruit yesterday
So yeah my preference is Wylted, Mikal, Mag1c and then Luna; pie goes today obviously
thought process looks independent, so this is a point in magoroth's favor
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/30/2026 at 8:06 PM (post #669)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 4:59 PM (post #633)
Odds are you're the lynch but lets put our heads together for in case you flip town
Im an open book. I can kick and scream all day that I was framed, but I see the writing on the wall. Just like that Anonymous game. I told whoever executed me to just kill me, cause I’ll be a distraction anyways.
I think for now we just assume there's a yakuza and ask who the OG could be, and who the recruit could be.
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 2:41 AM (post #581)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 30/08/2026 at 8:14 (post #579)
Jokes aside, I think this day phase is now old enough that I can legally flip it on its back and raw-dog it.
I am Dani Acosta, Methodical Cop. Justification is that Dani Acosta is methodical and a cop. I submitted a list of players before the end of day 1. Each night, I cop the highest player on the list, skipping dead players, including anyone who dies that night.
I would rather not post my list to stop scum from interfering on the off chance I survive this day phase, but Pie was my first choice and I got a guilty result on him last night. Any defenses I made of him or suggestions we move to someone else were reaction tests.
VTL: ILikePie5
Nice
Question is do they kill me or do they kill you tonight. Town feels kinda stacked what kinda abilities does scum have? Other than Yakuza which is one-shot
i mean your role seems the fakest tbh. but there's some good reasons to sus Pie, yes.
how much time do we have left in the DP?
sorry to anyone who got pinged more than they wanted lol
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 2:40 AM (post #580)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 30/08/2026 at 2:26 (post #546)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 4:07 PM (post #538)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 29/08/2026 at 23:06 (post #536)
So how does the voting piece work? If scum hammers you they basically out themselves?
Yes
Whats the name of the role. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it before
I’ll check, but I don’t think I have one unless it’s the TITLE-looking thing above my character’s name, which just says “LEADER"
uh.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 2:14 AM (post #579)
Jokes aside, I think this day phase is now old enough that I can legally flip it on its back and raw-dog it.
I am Dani Acosta, Methodical Cop. Justification is that Dani Acosta is methodical and a cop. I submitted a list of players before the end of day 1. Each night, I cop the highest player on the list, skipping dead players, including anyone who dies that night.
I would rather not post my list to stop scum from interfering on the off chance I survive this day phase, but Pie was my first choice and I got a guilty result on him last night. Any defenses I made of him or suggestions we move to someone else were reaction tests.
VTL: ILikePie5
seems so weird... why claim now and not at the start of the DP?
and if you submit a list, then do you actually visit the players?
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 9:42 PM (post #567)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:37 PM (post #566)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 8:33 PM (post #565)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:29 PM (post #564)
Yakuza technically is confirmable by using it and flipping lol
But you’re saying if scum had a Tailor, then Kohai was Town right?
I think that goes without saying.
Okay, that means he was telling the truth about having a confirmable role, which explains the NK. Question is which one. If they were Tailoring, wouldn’t they want to take a role from someone who hadn’t soft claimed or anything
true. However, if town doesn't notice then it's a great opportunity
