Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 PM (post #527)
Anyways, I’m going to get back to the strategy I came up with in Alien Mafia. The goal is to find the OG scum first based on motives of everyone. It does require everyone to full claim so that we can determine those motivations.
High level, I think we can eliminate Luna from the category because of his early attention on Kohai. I know I’m not scum. That leaves:
Perhaps, but he stuck to you. I like Lunatic on behavior, I'll say that. But in the same way DP1 I saw a world where Thoth was always your first choice and Kohai was second, I can see a world where Lunatic kept his sus on Kohai but was always gonna push you first. Worth noting.
Mag1c
I would've hammered you all day every day if I were scum. Last game, I pushed to get you lynched, and then killed you when I couldn't lol. Even if you stopped sussing me that game, it was worth killing you just so that you couldn't argue your way out of a lynch. You are the master of that.
Wylted
Thoth
Kohai was one of two original scum. Miller and cop go hand-in-hand, so odds are Thoth and Wylted confirm each other as OG town. Unless we really think Wylted pulled off a crazy big brain play. Wylted is capable but he loves his PGO/miller shenanigans, so I doubt it. He also hinted that he was miller before everyone entered thread, so he probably is just a real miller.
Mago
I don't know what to think of his claim or the timing of it. He followed his scum meta DP1, and with his partner being a yakuza, he would need to survive that DP.
Mikal
His claim is interesting. Given that it's in the game, Banana clearly had no problem with it being scum. The question is if she gave it to scum or if it were designed to be a role that scum could pick up. If it's the latter, not Mikal.
Mag1c is pure big brain. I can see the strategy with him and Kohai at EOD. Goal was to get REF so they could kill two birds with one stone and the switch to Pie was theatric. I think this is unlikely though, and my townread of him during DP1 was pretty solid.
Theatrical? lol how?
Also, you referring to yourself in the 3rd person gives me the impression you may have copy-pasted this from the scum chat. If this is the case, I expect a higher-level player to be with you in scum chat. I don't think a lower-level player would help you write a convincing reads list. You don't need the help, but I think you would accept it from a higher-level player.
Wylted is an interesting one. He’s pulled this Miller ploy before when he was scum with Luna. They basically cruised to the win in that game. I can see the same thing here. Take the fake claims. Soft claim Dreamer early and then come out with Miller.
He did this before? Wait, as in he claimed miller at the start, or that he faked something, then claimed miller later?
Thoth also is interesting, but is reliant upon Wylted. In certain ways they’re intertwined. I don’t think Thoth can be the OG if Wylted is telling the truth about Miller.
This.
Mago I can see being the OG scum. He was in the shadows (normal scum meta). The dynamic between him the Kohai was non existent. The questioning about Yakuza also came off a bit disingenuous to me, especially with the side quest of Tailor. No reason to believe there’s a Tailor or anything similar
Yup. Although I don't find his tailor musings to be completely unfounded. It's worth exploring, especially since it existed last game. This one would have to function differently than the last, sure, but I don't blame Magoroth for exploring the idea.
Mikal is hard to judge as OG scum from posts. Only thing there to read is Kohai chose REX over Casey/Mikal initially. The role Mikal has though is really powerful for scum if used correctly. It basically reduces a town vote. At 3-2 LYLO, town instantly loses because they lose the ability to gain a majority. Magistrate is also an exotic role. We have Watcher, Miller, Doctor, Cop, and then a Magistrate?
True. Saying it again, Banana is ok with scum having this role. Question is if she wanted scum to have it from the start, or if it were something cool scum could pick up. I somewhat lean toward the latter on mod psych, as the role has plenty of usage on either town or scum that way. I know if I gave a scum a recruitment mech, I would try to give town roles that would be like prizes for mafia recruiters. But my mind is open.
As for all the power roles town has: I can see them all with a yakuza in play. A recruitment isn't a roleblock, but since you change someone's affiliation, you prevent them from outing you as scum DP2 if they have a result. And if night actions process how I think, scum's recruit target shouldn't be ruled guilty the night they were recruited. I am asking Banana about this. It's not just relevant here; it's also relevant for the case against you.
