Mag1cman

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 6:15 AM (post #499)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 29/08/2026 at 10:15 (post #495)

I think we have been tunneling Pie too much. Deservedly, but I want to look somewhere else for now, i.e., I am going to try to sleep now and I hope that y’all will have done so by the time I wake up.

It’s possible, yesterday I thought Pie’s screaming and yelling was Townish but Pie tends to be able to replicate his Town meta as scum so I’m nt sure how much value to put in this.

Another thing I noticed is that, nowhere in Kohai’s role card does it say his ability precludes the use of a night kill, and yet we had no night kill last night. Thoughts? The Doctor died day 1 and I find very unlikely he was Tailored.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a yakuza that doesn’t require scum to forfeit their night kill upon usage. The tailor Lunatic and I had last game was only usable on our night kills, because it was a *night* action.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/28/2026 at 7:24 PM (post #423)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/28/2026 at 5:49 PM (post #416)

This role looks scary lol. So it turns a Town player into scum is what I understand but dies doing it?

Yes. I have only seen it before on here in Lunatic’s Alien game, where Casey was town but Tailored to a Yakuza.

Re: Tailoring someone into a yakuza. This is only possible if the tailor allows players to edit alignment. I don’t know if Banana would do that, considering that the previous tailor, the one Lunatic and I had last game, didn’t grant the ability to do that.

If it is a tailor, that seems like a play specifically designed to screw Pie, taking advantage of how paired Kohai-Pie looked.

If it is a tailor, then this post really looks like TMI.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 6:13 AM (post #498)

It seems kinda obvious the role mechanic or whatnot that would’ve been revealed to us is the Yakuza thing. There’s also a possibility Kohai was tailored, in which case that’s a pretty big brain play and whoever did it deserves a medal, although I consider this unlikely (remember I wasn’t paying much attention to the day chat yesterday so behavioural reasons aren’t the reason), because giving scum a Tailor only to allow town on D1 to negate that role by finding out it exists is really weird. Yakuza makes way more sense.

I’ll be more active today

hmmmm noted.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/29/2026 at 8:10 AM (post #504)

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investigative. That was the one way you could be town. You weren’t producing scumreads so you could avoid the usual NP1 fearkill.

idk about yakuza mind games yet, but first thought is that I find it hard to believe they chose you based on the situation.

*you avoided producing scumreads to avoid being an annoyance to the scum team, because you were trying to avoid a fearkill, so you could get value out of your role.

You were town DP1, no doubt about that.

there is a real chance Kohai kept you alive to Yakuza you, now that I think about it.

There’s an incentive to Yakuza you bc you’re Pie. But there’s also an incentive to avoid choosing you bc of how scumread you were. It’s a ballsy play for sure. But Kohai could’ve quick hammered you and then yakuza’d someone else. He didn’t.

Admittedly, there’s mind games Kohai could play with that, too. By allowing you two to seem very paired, it does more to setup the Pie mislynch DP2. I don’t know if that’s too high level of a play for Kohai or not. It’s possible it’s not, and there’s a strong player as Kohai’s teammate.

I’ll revisit you later.

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investigative. That was the one way you could be town. You weren’t producing scumreads so you could avoid the usual NP1 fearkill.

idk about yakuza mind games yet, but first thought is that I find it hard to believe they chose you based on the situation.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/28/2026 at 7:24 PM (post #423)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/28/2026 at 5:49 PM (post #416)

This role looks scary lol. So it turns a Town player into scum is what I understand but dies doing it?

Yes. I have only seen it before on here in Lunatic’s Alien game, where Casey was town but Tailored to a Yakuza.

oh that’s a crazy play

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/28/2026 at 7:22 PM (post #420)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 6:03 PM (post #418)

Yakuza may have been the role that was going to be revealed to us.

This sounds overwhelmingly likely except that I don’t know what good it would have done us to know this yesterday.

True.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 6:21 PM (post #408)

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/28/2026 at 4:16 PM (post #405)

Do people lose their ability it a Yakuza recruit? Because lunatic is the most obvious target here

If it was pie/kohai like I suspect, Pie would have known that I would look sus as fuck and wouldn't have recruited me. But yeah it's all going to be WIFOM at this point regardless.

Pie needs to full claim, but yeah with kohai being scum, I'd say there's very little chance he's town here. Down to lynch him outright.

VTL: ILikePie5

Yakuza may have been the role that was going to be revealed to us.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 6:26 PM (post #410)

Can I just say I fucking hate yakuzas?

amen brother

I feel like Magoroth is playing to scum meta. Kohai and Pie are very much tied together.

Welp Lunatic you or I is probably the NK. There’s a sneaky chance Pie could be.

Wans sure if my vote was still on Rex or if I unvoted

VTL: RexFavilla

What type of role do you have? I know you probably don’t wanna answer this but I see one way you can be town here.

I can see exactly one world in which Pie is town rn

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 11:23 AM (post #371)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 8/28/2026 at 9:22 AM (post #365)

Are we really about to NL?

Your avoidance to voting pie is extremely noticed.

yeah scum Kohai is practically spewing scum Pie. They are very paired.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 11:23 AM (post #368)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 9:23 AM (post #366)

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VTL: RexFavilla

honestly probably our only option at this point.

Pie is an option.

if I vote Pie, he’s basically L-1… who would hammer?

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VTL: RexFavilla

honestly probably our only option at this point.

That’s not like Mago idt

VTL: Magoroth

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 11:16 AM (post #351)

If pie flips scum and you vote him, you might be able to buy yourself some town cred. Hint hint, nudge nudge.

kohai+pie world Kohai is never voting pie

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 11:12 AM (post #341)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 10:10 AM (post #333)

I've never known pie to pity his victims. If he thinks someone is scum he pushes them ruthlessly and calls them retarded ten times in the process lol.

You don’t have to take my word for it. Go read the last two games and see if I did the same thing to Kohai. Believe it or not, I am human, and Indint want to scare away players either

hmmmm ig bro…

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #333)

I've never known pie to pity his victims. If he thinks someone is scum he pushes them ruthlessly and calls them retarded ten times in the process lol.

agreed.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 11:11 AM (post #338)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #334)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #331)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 10:08 AM (post #328)

The only people Pie doesn’t townread are the inactives. So I see the idea th at Pie’s dealing with typical scum problem of having ahard time coming up with convincing scumreads bc he knows everyone else is town. But that’s a circular reasoning that assumes he wouldn’t be scumreading the inactives if they showed up, which presupposes he’s scum.

The bigger issue is the lack of a push on Kohai despite declared intent to do so after moving on from Thoth. Pie lmk if you have an additional reason to townread Kohai but from I gleaned its vibes + pity. Vibes is weak and don’t see you as the type to pity someone to point of not pressuring. You’ve always been an “it’s just business” type of guy, so even if you pity someone you’d still pressure if they’ve been a problem for you.

He claimed to be confirmable. Which reminds me that he hasn’t answered whether he’s role or affiliation

ok

that satisfies me on the lower part

im tempted to Cfd Mago bc it feels like his scum meta

if we’re gambling inactives

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #334)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #331)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 10:08 AM (post #328)

The only people Pie doesn’t townread are the inactives. So I see the idea th at Pie’s dealing with typical scum problem of having ahard time coming up with convincing scumreads bc he knows everyone else is town. But that’s a circular reasoning that assumes he wouldn’t be scumreading the inactives if they showed up, which presupposes he’s scum.

The bigger issue is the lack of a push on Kohai despite declared intent to do so after moving on from Thoth. Pie lmk if you have an additional reason to townread Kohai but from I gleaned its vibes + pity. Vibes is weak and don’t see you as the type to pity someone to point of not pressuring. You’ve always been an “it’s just business” type of guy, so even if you pity someone you’d still pressure if they’ve been a problem for you.

He claimed to be confirmable. Which reminds me that he hasn’t answered whether he’s role or affiliation

ok

that satisfies me on the lower part

im tempted to Cfd Mago bc it feels like his scum meta

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #331)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 10:08 AM (post #328)

The only people Pie doesn’t townread are the inactives. So I see the idea th at Pie’s dealing with typical scum problem of having ahard time coming up with convincing scumreads bc he knows everyone else is town. But that’s a circular reasoning that assumes he wouldn’t be scumreading the inactives if they showed up, which presupposes he’s scum.

The bigger issue is the lack of a push on Kohai despite declared intent to do so after moving on from Thoth. Pie lmk if you have an additional reason to townread Kohai but from I gleaned its vibes + pity. Vibes is weak and don’t see you as the type to pity someone to point of not pressuring. You’ve always been an “it’s just business” type of guy, so even if you pity someone you’d still pressure if they’ve been a problem for you.

He claimed to be confirmable. Which reminds me that he hasn’t answered whether he’s role or affiliation

ok

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 11:08 AM (post #328)

The only people Pie doesn’t townread are the inactives. So I see the idea th at Pie’s dealing with typical scum problem of having ahard time coming up with convincing scumreads bc he knows everyone else is town. But that’s a circular reasoning that assumes he wouldn’t be scumreading the inactives if they showed up, which presupposes he’s scum.

The bigger issue is the lack of a push on Kohai despite declared intent to do so after moving on from Thoth. Pie lmk if you have an additional reason to townread Kohai but from I gleaned its vibes + pity. Vibes is weak and don’t see you as the type to pity someone to point of not pressuring. You’ve always been an “it’s just business” type of guy, so even if you pity someone you’d still pressure if they’ve been a problem for you.

Top part is part of the reason I’m ok gambling an inactive

Pie, can I get your reaction to the latter part?

The only people Pie doesn’t townread are the inactives. So I see the idea th at Pie’s dealing with typical scum problem of having ahard time coming up with convincing scumreads bc he knows everyone else is town. But that’s a circular reasoning that assumes he wouldn’t be scumreading the inactives if they showed up, which presupposes he’s scum.

The bigger issue is the lack of a push on Kohai despite declared intent to do so after moving on from Thoth. Pie lmk if you have an additional reason to townread Kohai but from I gleaned its vibes + pity. Vibes is weak and don’t see you as the type to pity someone to point of not pressuring. You’ve always been an “it’s just business” type of guy, so even if you pity someone you’d still pressure if they’ve been a problem for you.

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