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Lunatic hard town
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 10:44 AM (post #291)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/28/2026 at 8:41 AM (post #285)
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Do you have significant reason to town read pie? You are choosing to shoot completely randomly in the dark if you choose this path. We have mikal as a reserve who could still replace in.
Casey inactive Magoroth pretty low activity too
i don’t have a reason to townread Pie. There’s a few things that I would be townreading a lesser skilled player for
If Rex town my top guess is Pie+Kohai
Idt we can replace every inactive
I still am narrowing my eyes at Pie but Rex is a liability
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Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 12:25 AM (post #170)
Mago, Casey, and REF are all inactive.
I townread Wylted right now, could change depending on what happens tomorrow
I townread Mag1cman. The angle with Wylted is interesting. I don’t think that’s an angle to bring as scum esp with 3 people townreading Wylted. Scum would’ve moved on. Pie paranoia is typical
Thoth is claimed PR. Discrepancy with PGO still stands, but it’s early
Kohai we deal with tomorrow
Luna I want to keep around cause he’s probably the only one with theme knowledge. The push on me is also typically Luna paranoia. He’d do it either affiliation so he’s null.
So, what do you want to do then? Feels like you’re at an impasse.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/28/2026 at 12:50 AM (post #184)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/27/2026 at 11:33 PM (post #181)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/27/2026 at 10:25 PM (post #171)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/27/2026 at 11:23 PM (post #167)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/27/2026 at 10:22 PM (post #164)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/27/2026 at 10:48 PM (post #135)
Also there arguably another player in this game he isn’t pushing who is known for fucking up worse as scum, so it’s interesting he’s pressing Thoth over that player.
Kohai?
Right
Pie fucked over Kohai in that MAGA game where they asked if there was a Cop and were told no. Joe Arpaio's 1x Cop should have registered for that question.
There has been several games where kohai is found out early as scum, which is why pie tends to push him early a lot. Interesting he’s not doing so and instead focused on you for much of the last 24 hours.
I honestly kinda felt bad after he got quickhammered by Wryly for not claiming (even though he should’ve known that Pie gets what he wants). I haven’t been pushing him as hard since. I haven’t in a few games.
I can see a Kohai/Pie world where Kohai is always second on Pie’s list and never first.
tbf to Pie, his pressure on Thoth and Kohai specifically is within his town meta. I'm just not convinced he can't easily fake it as scum.
I will note a Pie/Thoth unpairing. If Pie had a plan for his teammate to use a claim early, and pressured his teammate for it, said teammate would've claimed, instead of being as resistant as Thoth has been.
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Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/27/2026 at 10:16 PM (post #129)
Lunatic learned last game that not alphaing up makes him scummy to some, the question is, does he fake that as scum *in this specific spot*? Scum Lunatic would find a spot to alpha up at some point, but here it could really blow up in his face if town believes Wylted's claim.
Negative utility SOPs are typically bought by town and as such are the easiest thing for scum to try and buddy. "Yup x is obv town let's move on to the next person" "hey x you're obviously town, what do you think of y?" ... that sort of thing. I think I'll give early town points to Lunatic because while he can fake being mr big balls, it just doesn't feel like the specific sport where mafia would have an incentive to do so.
ALthough I should ask how Lunatic backing off on Wytled factors into this actually, then it could be more theater, or testing Wylted I guess? I don't think scum Lunatic would challenge his teammate's claim specifically while distancing, so I think Lunatic and Wylted are unpaired at least.
Testing feels fine but if Lunatic wanted an excuse to look like mr big balls without doing it then pushing and backing off Wylted could be something he would do. Like just to show his ballsiness and then duck the conflict after he's shown it off. There's no way I can prove it's not just a test of Wylted, though. Or that he's letting an off claim go based on Wylted's behavior.
Lunatic learned last game that not alphaing up makes him scummy to some, the question is, does he fake that as scum *in this specific spot*? Scum Lunatic would find a spot to alpha up at some point, but here it could really blow up in his face if town believes Wylted's claim.
Negative utility SOPs are typically bought by town and as such are the easiest thing for scum to try and buddy. "Yup x is obv town let's move on to the next person" "hey x you're obviously town, what do you think of y?" ... that sort of thing. I think I'll give early town points to Lunatic because while he can fake being mr big balls, it just doesn't feel like the specific sport where mafia would have an incentive to do so.
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/27/2026 at 9:32 PM (post #126)
Originally Posted by Casey_Risk on 8/26/2026 at 12:06 AM (post #12)
Alright, I'm caught up, but I gotta be honest, I'm tired af and don't really have the brain power to engage deeply rn. I will say that I wouldn't expect scum Wylted to enter the game with a fake PGO claim like he did. The idea about intentionally splitting the vote is interesting. Fwiw, I haven't voted yet. Will have more thoughts in the AM
I can see scum Wylted gambling it. Doesn't mean he is, but I can see him doing it. He's a bold player.
This is why I asked if we've punished Wylted in the past for not SoPing by the way. I feel like the more Wylted play with a PGO would be conceal it and try to bait a scum NK.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 9:13 PM (post #123)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/27/2026 at 8:12 PM (post #121)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 9:09 PM (post #119)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/27/2026 at 8:04 PM (post #115)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 8:58 PM (post #114)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/27/2026 at 7:47 PM (post #111)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/27/2026 at 8:39 PM (post #110)
That's not pure OMGUS. I don't think town!Pie tunnels me for suggesting the same idea that he apparently thought he came up with and then demands everyone vote me over inactives.
Agreed but I'm hesitant because I always scumread Pie. I'm unsure if I want to use your claim to check Pie or just join you on Pie.
You always do, and you’re always wrong. I’ll let last game go cause you were scum, but this is a classic case of buddying by Thoth. Also, what claim are you talking about? He hasn’t claimed
I'm saying I'm considering helping you get Thoth's claim to help inform myself on you. I think Thoth makes some valid points and I if the claim is good, I'm on you.
What valid points? He hasn’t even addressed my argument. If you’re talking about the 4 people thing, most people have already voted. The two inactives should definitely be on the 4 person list, and imo Thoth and Kohai
ok that clears things up a bit for me. I had thought you were sussing him for that and you weren't.
No, I’m sussing him for the buddy on Luna. The flip flip and double standard
yes i get it now
Originally Posted by Casey_Risk on 8/26/2026 at 12:06 AM (post #12)
Alright, I'm caught up, but I gotta be honest, I'm tired af and don't really have the brain power to engage deeply rn. I will say that I wouldn't expect scum Wylted to enter the game with a fake PGO claim like he did. The idea about intentionally splitting the vote is interesting. Fwiw, I haven't voted yet. Will have more thoughts in the AM
I can see scum Wylted gambling it. Doesn't mean he is, but I can see him doing it. He's a bold player.
3/5 L-2 just claim so we can move on
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 9:09 PM (post #119)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/27/2026 at 8:04 PM (post #115)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 8:58 PM (post #114)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/27/2026 at 7:47 PM (post #111)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/27/2026 at 8:39 PM (post #110)
That's not pure OMGUS. I don't think town!Pie tunnels me for suggesting the same idea that he apparently thought he came up with and then demands everyone vote me over inactives.
Agreed but I'm hesitant because I always scumread Pie. I'm unsure if I want to use your claim to check Pie or just join you on Pie.
You always do, and you’re always wrong. I’ll let last game go cause you were scum, but this is a classic case of buddying by Thoth. Also, what claim are you talking about? He hasn’t claimed
I'm saying I'm considering helping you get Thoth's claim to help inform myself on you. I think Thoth makes some valid points and I if the claim is good, I'm on you.
What valid points? He hasn’t even addressed my argument. If you’re talking about the 4 people thing, most people have already voted. The two inactives should definitely be on the 4 person list, and imo Thoth and Kohai
ok that clears things up a bit for me. I had thought you were sussing him for that and you weren't.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 9:05 PM (post #116)
Lunatic #8:
Originally Posted by wylted on 8/25/2026 at 12:09 PM (post #4)
SOP claim. I am a paranoid gun owner.
Sarah myers apparently voices told her to kill everyone that arrived or something
Yeah that is not accurate. This is a character I do remember and I would definitely remember if voices told her to kill everyone. It’s like half accurate, she was told to kill someone and I think she left the door open and got the old Asian guy killed.
Antways I’ll research this in a bit to make sure but like 70% sure you are lying already
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Thoth #22:
I asked Banana some questions about my role, and, if I understand the answers correctly, they tilt me towards believing PGO is unlikely. I'm sussing wylted, but I guess it's possible.
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Luna #13:
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/25/2026 at 4:29 PM (post #22)
I asked Banana some questions about my role, and, if I understand the answers correctly, they tilt me towards believing PGO is unlikely. I'm sussing wylted, but I guess it's possible.
The more I thought about it the more I think he's probably town doing some stupid shit that probably won't work. But I'll let him cook.
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Thoth #11 (new thread)
Per wiki:
Sarah's biggest burden is from the voices telling her that if she did not kill everyone who arrived in the two vehicles (Jim, Tabitha, Julie, and Ethan from the RV and Tobey and Jade from the Audi), her brother would die and there would be a massacre like the last time two cars arrived the same day.
This seems like solid justification for PGO to me. Sure, there might be other details that don't fit with PGO, like the next sentence in that article, but any justification can have holes poked in it.
I see what you mean but I also think this could just be Thoth thinking things through. I'll help you check Thoth out to advance the game.
VTL: Thoth
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/27/2026 at 8:58 PM (post #114)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/27/2026 at 7:47 PM (post #111)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/27/2026 at 8:39 PM (post #110)
That's not pure OMGUS. I don't think town!Pie tunnels me for suggesting the same idea that he apparently thought he came up with and then demands everyone vote me over inactives.
Agreed but I'm hesitant because I always scumread Pie. I'm unsure if I want to use your claim to check Pie or just join you on Pie.
You always do, and you’re always wrong. I’ll let last game go cause you were scum, but this is a classic case of buddying by Thoth. Also, what claim are you talking about? He hasn’t claimed
I'm saying I'm considering helping you get Thoth's claim to help inform myself on you. I think Thoth makes some valid points and I if the claim is good, I'm on you.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/27/2026 at 8:39 PM (post #110)
That's not pure OMGUS. I don't think town!Pie tunnels me for suggesting the same idea that he apparently thought he came up with and then demands everyone vote me over inactives.
Agreed but I'm hesitant because I always scumread Pie. I'm unsure if I want to use your claim to check Pie or just join you on Pie.
real quick, do you townread or scumread wylted rn?
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/26/2026 at 10:33 PM (post #30)
You sound opposed to it. Coming from you, that's enough behavioral information that I am tempted to give into the urge to OMGUS. I would expect you to be the first person other than Mikal to exploit a bug.
Im all for it, but I need everyone else to agree with me too. This ain’t a one man show unfortunately
this just feels off. i feel like you'd do more to rally people to the cause if you were town, knowing you
how much time left in the dp?