Mag1cman

I won’t be in thread until much later today.

As I said last DP, Shining almost certainly town for mechanical reasons. Now it hinges on Tex being town but I’m highly confident in my town read of Rex, from the behavior to the claim.

Kek

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if Lunatic really does get modkilled just VTNL

Lunatic wrote:

Looks like I am getting modkilled. GG guys.

Figured it was enough of a paraphrase but I guess pie doesn't see it that way.

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ugh. i can't read this game at all. I'm going to bed. whatever happens happens

that's more of a justification on properties than the Greek. The Greek is just a fun fact.

I don't know if i believe it yet but this helps, thank you

Lunatic wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

I have a ton of justification, that was a short summary.

Can you elaborate more?

What specifically? I have a book of justification, but the gist of it is what I said. Want me to copy past it in AI and translate it or something?

well that's not allowed but give your own summary. Is it reall just about Krypton being a Greek word for hidden? Like do the other contents of the PM add anything else?

noted

Mag1cman wrote:

There is no town motive for targeting Shining. If Rex wasn't messed with, Whiteflame is scum.

Whiteflame could've been messed with. That too.

a PR worth targeting, specifically

Is there any post you made last DP that could've made mafia realize you're a PR?

There is no town motive for targeting Shining. If Rex wasn't messed with, Whiteflame is scum.

Mag1cman wrote:

Let's say the person you targeted visited multiple. What result would you get? Ask Pie please.

visited multiple players*

Let's say the person you targeted visited multiple. What result would you get? Ask Pie please.

Because Shining is town, either Whiteflame was redirected, or there's a bud driver between Shining, and one member of the scum team.

So Shining, from a mechanical standpoint, is very towny imo

A Shining/Whiteflame world is theoretically possible, but then why does Whiteflame target Shining? It's not like scum Whiteflame has a reason to shove anything targeting him scum Shining's way. It's not like Shining was a high-priority cop target either.

I have a ton of justification, that was a short summary.

Can you elaborate more?

Given that Neodymium is literally the element famous for magnets, the only world in which Shining is a magnet is slim. Even if the role isn't called magnet, it still feels like the odds are slim.

I feel comfortable in asserting that Shining is town.

CLAIMS LIST

Magoroth - Calcium - Town Strengthener

Kohai - Helium - Town Activated Innocent Child

Lunatic - Krypton - Hider

REF - Technetium - 2x Tracker

Shining - ??? - ???

Mikal - Cobalt - Redirector

Thoth - Oganesson - unknown role

Bullish - Cesium - Time Traveller

Casey - Magnesium - Dreamer

Banana - ??? - ???

Whiteflame - Neodymium - Pseudo-Lightning Rod

Mag1cman - ??? - ???

Helz - ??? - Rolestopper

First things first, I trust Rex. I found him towny last DP, nothing here changes that. Whiteflame isn't an unreasonable track target.

So we know Rex targeted Whiteflame, and that he got the result that Whiteflame visited Shining. I do not believe there is any town reason to target Shining. The only mafia reason I can think of, is that scum has a role that deflects actions from themselves, to their target. It is possible that they could move actions from a teammate, to their target as well, depending on the answer to a question I want Rex to ask Pie.

In either situation, town Shining was chosen because there wasn't going to be any watching eye on him, and anything scum gets targeted with, goes to Shining.

However, if we think of a world where Shining is scum, the role responsible for this has to be a magnet.

ok, i got night actions figured out. trying to separate fact from fiction

I will note that dreamer is a crazy risky claim, if even one person says they targeted you, then you're in trouble. The only saving grace is you could argue they were redirected and didn't end up hitting you. But with no knowledge of who would target you, it's not super easy to make a case for that person being redirected.

Why did you target Lunatic?

Did you soft, or make any post saying you didn't want to claim or soft last DP?

oh that's right.

sorry my head is spinning

Who did you target last night?

whiteflame wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE CLAIMED NIGHT ACTIONS ALREADY

could you remind me?

See #369. I broke down how my night action played out there, how Mikal's did, and two unknown night actions that affected at least mine. To clarify since it might initially be unclear, my intended target was Luna.

I have a very hard time believing Shining would be a target for a vanillizer.

I will say this: Pie puts little traps for town in his setups to keep us all on our toes. He does it to the mafia team as well. For example, in that CoD game, he gave the mafia team a strongman even though there was no doctor.

It was very mean :(

remind me who you targeted and with what

for everyone who has claimed their last night action