Mag1cman


Helz wrote:
Kohai should not be dead. I figured I am basically the town protective on crack. Every role to include killing roles should have been neutralized that visited Kohai last night. My best guess is that I was redirected or they were swapped before my action hit. We do not have a formal OoO to work with which makes it more difficult to figure out but host did confirm to me that I stop normal killing roles. Figured Mags function would have been an exception but unless Mafia has some strongman or equal role to what Mag did its simply a redirect that happened.

Maybe, but you're not an investigative, which is what the mafia team is always after. You're a prime target for a redirector, for example. I've seen the comparisons to the CoD Mafia setup already. If we run with that, mafia has a redirector. If not, redirector is still fairly common around here.

Mag1cman


Helz wrote:
Lunatics is separately a question. I hate the "Too scummy to be scum" arguments but its where my mind jumps with them. Like why would such a strong player claim such an obviously scum sided role? Thats a simple thing to lie about if they were scum and they had to know it would look terrible as they claimed it.

Then their progression with Casey does not make sense to the point I have some level of confidence that Casey/Lunatic are not WvW.

What makes you say that?

Mag1cman

Justification Tracker


Role justified by character's properties:

-Magoroth

-Kohai

-Mag1cman

-Thoth*

-Mikal

-Whiteflame


*or lack thereof, in Thoth's case


Role justified by character's usage:

-Rex

-Casey

-Bullish


Role justified by its name

-Lunatic

Mag1cman

As for the three investigatives, it's possible to have three because we in a 13 player game.


That being said, the time traveling motion detector and the tracker could clash a little. Possibly, will need to check some past games bc I swear I remember someone made a setup with both.

Mag1cman

Longshot, but perhaps worth noting: Lunatic's claim comes after a statement I made about all the noble gases being the same. I would not be shocked if some nerd in the scum chat saw and thought out loud "well here's a fun fact about x noble gas that isn't true of the rest." And then someone in scum chat decided it could be decent for a fakeclaim. Take this with a grain of salt but my first thought here is Thoth bc he's a nerd who spouts endless fun facts.

Mag1cman


Casey_Risk wrote:
I wouldn't say it's accurate to say that my justification has to do with the "practical usage" of my element. It's simply based on what magnesium does at the biochemical level in the human brain.

close enough

Mag1cman

Lunatic is definitely the odd man out. Keep in mind that scum Lunatic haslittle reason to shift the wagon away from town Casey. Yes some WIFOM is possible, but just not as likely.

Mag1cman

Justification Tracker


Role justified by character's properties:

-Magoroth

-Kohai

-Mag1cman

-Thoth*

-Mikal


*or lack thereof, in Thoth's case


Role justified by character's practical usage:

-Rex

-Casey

-Bullish


Role justified by its name

-Lunatic

Mag1cman

Justification Tracker


Role justified by character's properties:

-Magoroth

-Kohai

-Mag1cman

-Thoth*


*or lack thereof, in Thoth's case


Role justified by character's practical usage:

-Rex

-Casey

-Bullish


Role justified by its name

-Lunatic

Mag1cman


Mag1cman wrote:
First glance is that in retrospect, Mikal still seems town. I don’t seee the point in trying to shift the wagon away from Magoroth there from the pov of scum Lunatic.

*scum Mikal


As for scum Lunativ, the only way he shifts the wagon away from Casey is if Casey is scum, I think.


There is however an additional layer of WIFOM in both cases, not wanting to be on the wagon of mislynched town, which I will deep dive later to find out if this WIFOM tinfoil has any real ground to stand on

Mag1cman


Lunatic wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:
If anything I am more sus of people not on the wagon trying to farm town cred. 

I’ve been towning Magoroth for the whole DP, fighting actions against him whenever I’m online. This is disingenuous
Yeah but it never really made sense why, your explanations never added up. If he is town the entire read looks dis-ingenuous. Your whole thing was that Activity = town was actually NAI. I can see town reading him from ignorance as you werent in some major mago games where he was extremely townie. But even mago admits he was playing differently, multiple times. So if he flips town, your reading him town doesn't do much for me.


It’s for Magoroth specifically and it’s a meta read. He’s clearly been driving activity, which is not his scum meta.