the only issue, again, I have with whiteflame being scum is, what the hell is this setup?
if it’s somehow Thoth, and he’s not actually governor, I will laugh.
the only issue, again, I have with whiteflame being scum is, what the hell is this setup?
if it’s somehow Thoth, and he’s not actually governor, I will laugh.
No, you’re just saying OMG TOWN HAS BE SECRETIVE!
I give you props for changing your mind on that but going full-180 isn’t the answer to being wrong
Please cover me out here before I go insane because Mag1cman literally just refuses to listen to me at all, he keeps saying he will but he keeps finding reasons why I am scum, he is either scum or he is really, really tunnelled
Not sure if I buy the tunnelling allegation because I’m apparently the only one who’s annoyed here, so I’m going to do this
VTL Mag1cman
if anyone hammers this, they will be lynched tomorrow.
a townie who is wrong 3 times in a row would question things, you’re not questioning anything you’re just ABSOLUTELY convinced I am scum and you wish for me to answer why “an Investigative would claim”
except I didn’t even claim, I claimed my character,
1. so this kinda defeats your point
No, Town does not have critical thought. Town can fuck around and do stuff, it’s way less stressful as Town (except when everyone scumreads you). Scum do troll but it’s usually fake trolling to “fit in”.
I can’t believe you’ve never seen anyone do dumb shit as Town, WE LITEARLLY have people who refused to claim on D1 and yet somehow you find thins unbelievable?
you are literally scum reading me for the same reasons as those two who died N1/D1, if I was in your shoes my confidence would be shaken, YOU DIDN’T EVEN VOTE Shining yesterday, where does this sudden confidence of yours that I am scum even come from?
It’s a mixture. I don’t just do mechanically correct things but I also don’t just fuck around, I obviously play the game with my wincon in mind. I just don’t necessarily just do the “optimal” play, I hate that shit because this game is more about reading people and figuring things out, at its heart.
there’s also the possibility of Wryly as scum, but I don’t want to believe that behaviourally. is Wryly known for deep wolfing?
actually I believe anyone who claims they only do mechanically correct things to be lying
“does not align with the incentive of an investigative"
you’re also making the mistake of ASSUMING people do ONLY mechanically correct things.
I don’t play this game to be a robot. I play this game to have fun. Sometimes I do dumb shit just for the sake of it, sue me.
How exactly am I supposed to prove you wrong, man? The only weapon I have is to tell the truth, and the truth is, I just fucking felt like claiming my character because I saw everyone else doing it. Is it the best play as Town? Idk maybe it isn’t but I felt like doing it so I did, it’s not even like my role is even related to my character in any way so I didn’t slip anything
you do realise, I actually was RIGHT to doubt my results? I don’t know what the setup is but he literally said “results you get 100% accurate” EXCEPT it’s not fucking true! he later confirmed Godfather and Miller would mess with my results!
VTL Mag1cman
Ok then. Your answer is literally “you must be faking”. if everything I do is scummy, then you’re just scum and you want to mislynch me. That or you should learn better for next time.
Mag1cman if you’re Town you should step away and focus on someone else or at least CONSIDER the possibility that I am Town, - no, fuck that, you don’t consider it, you just always end up in the same spot “Magoroth is scum” EXCEPT YOU GIVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REASONS EVERY SINGLE TIME!
VTL Mag1cman
Nah, I can’t deal with this, lynch this, I don’t care anymore, either he’s scum trolling me and refusing to listen because he wants me to bury myself or he’s just fucking useless town, either way I don’t care, fucking listen to people next time and stop fucking trolling and tunnelling like an ass
I’m tired of your ass fucking painting me all the fucking time you’re just fucking pissing me off at this point
HOW AM I FLAILING?
I’M FUCKING MAD
DUDE, YOU EITHER FUCKING LYNCH ME OR YOU FUCKING LISTNE TO ME!
I don’t know what to think.
maybe it’s WIFOM and the setup is intentionally town sided so that nobody would actually believe it’s this town sided. idk
people do that sometimes
the ONLY problem I have with Whiteflame!scum is what the fuck is this setup?
and no, that’s not shade but you’re blaming me for shit when I don’t know why ANYONE would trust their results in this fucking HIDDEN setup where ANYTHING is possible
like that’s what I don’t get, why do people get mad at me for distrusting my results when literally ANYTHING is possible - I am immune to manipulation yes but that’s a no-brainer when my role doesn’t target PEOPLE when I get results
I blame Mag1cman for this shit if we lose for tunnelling on me and not even wanting to consider I may be Town, making up shit because he’s convinced I’m scum when he was wrong about LITERALLY EVERYONE
he literally just wants to be right because he was wrong about 2 people before - he is either scum or playing horribly
change the lynch to Whiteflame regardless of who else it is, if Whiteflame flips Town we lynch Mag1cman or you tomorrow
@Wryly why do you keep screaming about me doubting my results when your results are useless?
white flame is trying to act like the nice Town leader going “we got this boys” and organising shit
one of my old time friends, very, very good Mafia player did this when he was scum, it makes town feel comfortable and makes him into town leader
white flame is obviously not town leader but he’s definitely manipulating people
he is scum
he asked me why I unvoted Shining because he wanted to shade me for it, it’s 100% whiteflame
he gave reasons why I’m Town and yet I’m scum for it.
only fucking issue is that both Whiteflame and Mag1cman might be scum it’s hard for me to pick between them, but gun to the head it’s probably Whiteflame and not Mag1cman, just, GUN TO THE HEAD, can’t explain it but he voted Shining whereas Mag1cman didn’t, and he probably thought Thoth would swing the lynch onto someone else so he didn’t care
that’s the thing, with a claimed Governor he would probably feel some what comfortable voting his own partner.
so a scum WOULD vote their own partner if there’s a Dayvig/Governor, kinda like Whiteflame did
he also asked me “why are you unvoting Shining” at the end of the day yesterday
it’s Whiteflame
gg
to be honest the scummiest thing about Whiteflame is that he’s calling me town but still saying he wants to lynch me, like he’s not doing anything
VTL Whiteflame
why do we even care why Shining didn’t claim? does it matter? more important is who voted him/didn’t vote him and why..
like seriously I know you guys think I’m uber scummy but I’m just a fucking sensor and I used my ability N1! there’s no fucking mystery, I’m not being shady or being cagy, I literally just am a sensor who character claimed and doubted his fucking results, WHAT IS SO HARD TO BELIEVE ABOUT THAT?
you’re literally only seeing “why would a Town doubt his own claims”, WHY THE HELL WOULDN’T I DOUBT MY OWN RESULTS?
“I’m trying to keep my options open” - technically yes but the way you put it is SCUMMY of me and that’s BULLSHIT, I’m trying to NOT use my fucking results because it’s MECH and a few games ago my scum buddy shot a lurker and CLAIMED VIGILANTE when there were 2 scum teams that won with each other but didn’t know EACH OTHER’S identities which is technically towny because he coulda shot SCUM but he was scum anyway just pulling a gambit
yes, it’s that fucking simple, I am ignoring mech because it’s garbage
can we move on from me and focus on Whiteflame and Mag1cman, please?
also, why the hell is Thoth voting when he can just cancel the Lynch and confirm himself as Governor so we know he’s not Godfather and if he is, -
why would scum even have a Governor in this setup lol?
I’M A FUCKING SENSOR. YOU THINK I FAKE CLAIM A ROLE I DIDN’T EVEN KNOW EXISTED?
How am I using my fake claim for town cred? What town cred did it even buy me to claim my character?
And, I already said my character has 0 bearing on my role. And even if it had, why do I only have to do things that are “pro-Town”? What is pro-Town about Pie’s refusal to claim?
What is pro-Town about you hunting for investigatives, for that matter?
My side of the story is EXTREMELY simple, yours is just pile on top of piles of bullshit. I claimed because I felt like it and I saw others claiming. I didn’t even claim my role like you’re trying to imply. And your shtick is that I am afraid of claiming as scum because I’m not a Bear Fan? Well, I literally claimed my character at the very start. why would I do that as scum?
as for “downplaying” my sensor role - I didn’t downplay shit. I am new here 1) and my understanding was that you guys like crazy setups 2), so I didn’t trust my results. I don’t like trusting mechanical information, it’s so easy to get interference, perhaps a hidden modifier on my role, or even hidden modifiers from scum - which Vader CONFIRMED would interfere my results, so you might want to give me more credit than that.
why would I even fake claim Sensor of all roles? I could literally just claim Vanilla, it fits my character MUCH better than Sensor does.
as for the remainder? You are scumreading things that don’t matter, so I don’t know what to say. I am not being opportunistic, if I was scum I would pay more attention to how I’m seen than you’re giving me credit for; voting EVERYONE is a TOWN tell, not a scum tell. SCUM = Sheep, Town = LEADERS. I was the first to vote Shining yesterday btw and I also hammered him.
Yes, Tailor is well known on Sc2.
I have a setup that has a tailor.