Can you please switch to Whiteflame? I think Whiteflame is much smarter than this and he wouldn’t have such strong opinions when there’s a claimed cop and sensor who almost 100% make him confirmed scum. it’s bloody weird.
I think if I was Whiteflame, and I was in this situation, I would either disbelieve my claim, Mag1cman’s, or Thoth’s. I certainly don’t understand why he thinks Thoth has to be town.
I may be getting as tunnelled as Mag1cman, but Whiteflame’s insistence feels weird. It’s weird to insist on Thoth and Wryly being “basically confirmed Town” when from his perspective, there’s an unexplained “100% scum” between him and Mag1cman from me, when Mag1cman has a clear on him. it just doesn’t make sense.
Whiteflame, how is anyone town confirmed if Mag1cman is scum?
because it either means you’re some kinda crazy Miller role that you don’t even know about or there’s a Framer/Redirector, in which case, mechanically speaking, it could actually be anyone in this game...
If you’re gonna lynch me, please lynch me now. This is not frustration speaking, because if you don’t trust me if the person we lynch today flips Town, we are going for a 100% town loss, that is kinda partially on my head. so please, if you don’t trust me if either of those two flips Town, Lynch me right now and you’ll have a chance tomorrow.
I do wonder who dies tomorrow, though.
if Whiteflame really is bodyguard there’s no way he survives tonight, but if he doesn’t survive, would Mag1cman kill him? Idk. We’ll see.
It might be better if you lynch me now. I’d rather not get mislynched at LyLo.
So, the options are, either you Lynch me now, or you trust me all the game. there is literally no other option.
then you have to pick between [Thoth, Whiteflame, Mag1cman]. I probably think Thoth is the least likely to be scum in this group but I don’t like the fact that he disappeared after a hard town clear on him. would be pretty funny if all four of us were Town and Thoth was scum, just... letting us fight each other
Okay I think whiteflame is scum.
He just gives ridiculously solid reasons to townread me then he votes me. Lynch whiteflame when I flip Sensor.
Okay, maybe it’s not a contradiction. It’s still weird for you to be claiming I’ve been under the spotlight and that’s why I’m “obvious” whereas Whiteflame isn’t, when in fact I’ve been “obvious” all game. The natural conclusion is that it has nothing to do with me being under the spotlight and I’m just not sure. I think you’re either scum or you’re ridiculously tunnelled.
But then again if he is scum, then how does this setup make any sense?
Idk. Crazy. Maybe we should just ignore claims. I don’t know what to think. I don’t like the fact that Thoth disappeared after becoming borderline confirmed Town.
Let’s assume for a moment Thoth really is Governor, but that he’s also Framer or Redirector or something. Does that make sense as scum? Idk.
I hope Whiteflame flips scum, because I probably will die tomorrow if he doesn’t.
VTL Whiteflame
Yes, and I’ve been “obvious” all game so it obviously has nothing to do with being in the spotlight.
"You’re hard defending your own lynch. You’re forced into the spotlight."
Yes. You just said this. This was in reference to me keeping my options open, btw. So IT is a contradiction. Because you’re saying it’s okay for me keeping my options open to be so obvious because I don’t want to die, but I’ve been supposedly keeping my options for... pretty much since I claimed Sensor, I think.
I guess I would find it easier to convince people if I was less contrarian but I just don’t have that in me.
what does that mean
No, you don’t get to say that. You literally just accused me of keeping my options open AFTER I was close to being lynched, now you’re saying I was doing that before I was to close to being lynched? Can you please make up your mind?
You’ll notice I am not voting you, I wonder why that is?
Flailing - I’m not flailing, I’m frustrated, it’s different. When scum gets under pressure they usually collapse. I haven’t collapsed. I’m frustrated.
reaction under pressure is very telling, merely being DEFENSIVE and OMGUSSY isn’t scummy, it’s the aggression that comes with it that is telling. scum usually collapse under pressure.
so yes, I would definitely fight back as scum, I just wouldn’t do it as well and I would eventually give up. I don’t know how to convince people as Town, let alone as scum. as Town I have the advantage that I know I’m town, I don’t have that luxury as scum.
Dude, you’ve been accusing me of keeping my options open FROM D2. Way before any of this shit.
Dude, you’ve been accusing me of keeping my options open FROM D2. Way before any of this shit.
You realise my “keeping my options open” is MUCH, MUCH more in your nose than Whiteflame doing it, right? Scum care about being in the spotlight, Town doesn’t. that alone makes him scummier than me
Wryly, if you’re gonna lynch me tomorrow, please unvote. I really need to know first if Whiteflame is scum or not. I’d rather Lynch him.
you are literally lynching your Inno check and complaining about me disbelieving my results, btw.
yes, I’m frustrated, you would be frustrated too if someone refused to listen to you and every time you tried to explain shit they brought up against they just went “nuh uh, you gotta do better than that"
why the fuck do I have do better than that WHEN I AM TOWN AND TELLING THE BLOODY TRUTH?
you keep saying stuff but you don’t really commit to an opinion
Mag1cman is he not keeping his options open? I’M TRYING TO FUCKING FIGURE THINGS OUT, what the fuck would YOU do if you were a claimed investigative in this setup, AS TOWN, and you TOWNREAD the other fucking claim? DO YOU REALISE HOW LITTLE SENSE THIS SITUATION MAKES FROM MY PERSPECTIVE?
you better hope it really is Whiteflame and not Thoth/Mag1cman, because if it is, I don’t see how we can win this.
okay you know what, just Lynch me. I’m done. I’m Town. I just don’t care anymore with Mag1cman’s constant bullshit.
he’s probably Town because I don’t think a scum would do this shit.
okay well, I am Town and don’t know what else to say. I really am Town and did all those things I did and just fucking said I did.
I sincerely hope Mag1cman isn’t scum playing like this because I really don’t want him to win after he shaded me every which way, and refusing to believe me.
and actually it said there’s one scum in [Kohai, Whiteflame, Mag1cman]. it said nothing about [Thoth, Wryly, Shining].
if Thoth or you are framers, there would be 2 scum in [Thoth, Wryly, Shining] and one of you could frame someone in [Kohai, Whiteflame, Mag1cman]. if you’re telling the truth, then mechnically someone would frame Mag1cman. nobody would frame kohai and then kill him, I think. maybe. I don’t know.
it can be, actually. Thoth could be Framer.
I still really want to Lynch Whiteflame but I don’t understand this setup if Whiteflame is scum
oh by the way I am 100% sensor and I am not fake claiming, this is my actual role and I am actually the double doink. if you see a different flip it’s 100% tailored.
my death actually breaks this game. because nobody will fucking know what to do with my flip. I flip Sensor. then what? I don’t think it’s Wryly behaviour wise...
I don’t want an early lynch. Scum could just use it to either Lynch the hammerer tomorrow, or hammer and say “guys I thought he was scum” or “guys I didn’t know he was at L-1
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