Magoroth

Please mass claim D1, don’t let people like Mikal get away with making BS claims that cc without even saying what they’re actually claiming. If we lose because of a mass claim everyone gets to rail on me post game and call me a dumbass.

Okay well, I am honestly lost at this point. Fuck everyone for not trying harder to defend me. I lost the energy but I believe this man is scum. Once you see my flip, please fucking kill Lunatic posthaste. This man takes EVERYTHING I DO and aligns it with scum/no reason to keep alive. Please fucking lynch him. That is my dying wish.

Actually my character is called Concubine Mei: Bai Ruiji. I don’t know which of those are the personal name

I said it, Bai Ruiji or some shit like that

One scum tell is when you townread people who scumread you, scumreading those who scumread you is more natural and in of itself is NAI (a bit towny though)

The thing is, to me, I know I am Town and the points you make are like ??? To me. Nobody has ever said to me that reacting to events is scummy, reacting isn’t scummy, HOW you react is. Mafia isn’t focused on self preservation as much as it is cowardly and afraid, if most scum players get into a 1v1 with someone they usually drop it, flail, stop defending themselves, disengage, etc. whereas town fights because Town is like WHY ARE YOU SCUMREADING ME you must be scum

Omgus and reaction under pressure is not scummy, man.

“It will affect how I lynch you in future games”

You are trying to talk me into letting myself being lynched XD how is this not scummy sd

I’m not new but I am neurotic in general, so my playstyle varies from having very good reads that I end up doing nothing with to completely over the place hot mess.

For someone who merely misunderstands my behaviour, you sure do make a habit out of shooting down my counterpoints to you calling me scum

Basically I sought revenge against someone for murdering my malformed son or some shit, and due to my vengeful nature, at the highest rank I attain the role Vengeful

There. I am Vengeful due to my vindictive nature, something to do with

VTL Lunatic

Scratch what I said about Lunatic, I think me being angry makes me Town, not him. Him pushing this this hard makes him UBER CONFIDENT which is a SCUM TRAIT

Okay. Well… I’m Vengeful. I didn’t want to claim Vengeful because I wanted to keep it around until LyLo/MyLo in case I got mislynched. That would probably out both scum and win us the game.

My past experience indicates that when someone makes you incredibly angry when they push you, they are probably Town. Sorry. I’m just not used to this kind of pressure anymore, I used to be used to it but it was on my homesite which is now defunct.

Well, I didn’t think about it in THAT much detail. I just figured Framer = bad role = give favour

I claimed Roleblocker and uhhh Watcher. I will actually full claim my last ability if it becomes necessary bc I don’t want to be lynched, I really wanted to play this game and it sucks that literally all 3 of my games here I would’ve gotten lynched. Both of my town games, too. I literally never get mislynched as Town. Or I used not to until MU/DC.

I am assuming Redirectors and such exist, it would be useful for scum to redirect a Framer onto random people, Miller is less important, a claimed Miller is almost irrelevant because the dude literally claimed he shows up as Scum, there’s no reason to visit a Miller claim as Cop so there wouldn’t be much reason for them to feed him favour; if anything they would steal favour from him bc people would go “but you said you show up as red, why did you show up as green last night?”

Redirect favour, give favour, in the end to the recipient it amounts to the same thing; if anything it might be stronger for scum to redirect rather than to grant favour

I want to vote Wryly and Thoth because they’re my top scumreads, but I really don’t want Lunatic to get away with this if he is scum. Almost want to vote him out of principle.

I am taking a step back because I actually have some nasty things to say and I’d rather not say them.

Ya know what, I’m scum to you no matter what I say. My entire fucking point id that this DOESN’T FUCKING MATTER. Who cares if I’m reactive or not? Some people are more reactive than others and it’s a perfectly valid way of getting reads. If yiu want to tunnel yourself into scumreading me, don’t fucking ask for my help in doing it, thanks.

Yeah, but if they can give favour they would obviously give me and Wylted favour, redirecting it from other people (in my role’s case, to their harm).

Well, I can’t help that. These are literally my abilities and I can confirm that I am not lying about these two and will not change my claim and if I do, you can just lynch me.

Because the setup says other roles and not just the Emperor can grant favour, so I assume can steal favour or redirect it.

That’s really a stretch. Since when is reacting to other players SCUMMY? I have to get reads one way or the other, if I do it based on people’s reactions to me it’s perfeftly valid because I can gauge people’s reactions (when I’m not getting grilled) to me more easily than to others, for like… a million reasons

That’s really a stretch. Since when is reacting to other players SCUMMY? I have to get reads one way or the other, if I do it based on people’s reactions to me it’s perfeftly valid because I can gauge people’s reactions (when I’m not getting grilled) to me more easily than to others, for like… a million reasons

I figured Framer was just unbelievable enouhh of a claim that scum would not question it snd just assume I am telling the truth, plus they could send me favour which would end up helping me and harming them in the long run. Besides, no-claim draws attention, claiming Framer doesn’t (to scum).

VTL Mikal

you better claim. You just made me claim and now you’re CCing me without doing it.

It seems to me she’s having trouble actually saying anything and when she does it’s stuff like that “Magoroth is erratic and scummy regardless of alignment”, which somehow manages to both 1) defend me and 2) say absolutely nothing, it’s just safe stuff that anyone who knows me can say

okay? What are you claiming