Magoroth

I can, but I won’t. My role is useful when it isn’t known what it is. It’s useless or almost useless when claimed.

Why would a scum act shy in a Mafia game? Because they have trouble acting in a natural way and are trying to avoid drawing attention to themselves.

Fine, I’m not Framer. I don’t want to reveal my actual “last” role because it’s a useful one and its usefulness drops to zero if it’s claimed.

I think you’re intentionally misrepresenting my points. How the hell did you get from what I said that “Wryly is shy”? Why the hell would you think I am literally using LITERAL shyness as a scum trait?

Obviously, being “shy” with scare quotes is scummy, being shy, as in literally shy is not.

Not sure if you just skimmed the thread in like 5 mins or you’re just scum. Kinda feels like this is NAI but still wanted to mention it because it stuck out at me.

I wrongly blamed some consort of something so I’m a Framer. Because I’m a spy I am a Watcher. Because of my needling of the other Consorts I’m Roleblocker.

My character is called Bai Ruji and my rank is Concubine Mei (?), whatever that means. I killed the Empress’ son with plague and whatnot, don’t really have much else to say, that is what stood out to me from my flavour

I’m not dropping the mass claim idea just so I don’t get scumread. I still do think it’s a good idea. Even if scum can claim whatever, presumably town will not lie and so at least 8/11 claims should be truthful or mostly truthful so we can still get an idea of what results to expect, and afterwards we can factor in additional scum roles which almost certainly exist, e.g. Tailor, Bus Driver, Framer

If people are gonna say I scum slipped, they are full of shit. Watch for ehoever tries to defend this lynch tomorrow, or whoever tries to use it to push someone else. Anyone who claims I scum slipped is a liar because I cannot BY DEFINITIN scum slip.

also, I think it should be pretty fucken easy for people to find me here considering they have my scum game and I can share more if needed

I admit I am biased, and it’s a little hard for me to be objective when I’m being pushed like this, mostly because, honestly I’m just fucking angey. You have people calling me RETARDED TOWN, or comparing me to khaosmagic or whoever the fuck that is, how am I NOT supposed to take this personally? I am literally being myself and I’m getting pushed for reasons I don’t understand, and on top of that my play is being called bad or dumb. If I was getting pushed for being some master manipulator or some garbage I would honestly mind it less. Instead I’m actually trying to play and I’m getting punished for it. How would you feel about it?

Anyway, that’s a rant. I can’t be fully objective when I’m being pushed.

Also, this is not true, Whiteflame did not ego boost me, he disagrees with most of what I said; wylted said I act openly scummy so I must be Town.

And I gave reasons why Pie and Wryly are scum, don’t act like I made that up.

Pie is scum because he randomly brings up me claiming Watcher out of thr blue and says “oh shucks you’re gonna die” which is the exact thing I would say if I was Ninja. You can act like this is “unconvincing” but this is literally based off of personal experience of what I have done and other scum have done.

No. I don’t have to use my night action.

On that note, please give me favour because you won’t regret it. Depose the false Empress, I am the rightful one!

No, it’s not too wolfy to be a wolf, it is literally my final ability. Town Framer. Why do you think I brought up Mafia Doctor? Town Framer is almost as absurd, actually even more so because you never want to use Town framer, ever

If you want me not to scumread you, come up with some stronger reasons to scumread me rather than “he doesn’t make sense!” Not making sense is 1) NAI and 2) I do believe I have made sense, so I could care less about the reasons why you scumread me (still annoyed by how many people are doing it though).

I have like 2 favour and would appreciate being turned into the Empress so I can use my night abilities :)

Fine. Watcher, Roleblocker are my odd/even night abilities. My final ability is Framer. Yes, I can frame people.

I haven’t yet looked at my flavour in any detail, would prefer not to claim this unless strictly necessary, but basically there’s a bunch of reasoning behind each action.

i should say i first become roleblocker, then watcher, then framer.

VTL Thoth

I think Thoth is my top scum read.

Anyway I’m genuinely frustrated at this stage and will probably AFK for several hours. Bye

Nobody has even given a reason as to why mass claim is bad. It’s all just “but if scum learns our roles”. I really, really don’t care if scum learns what roles we have. All information is public and more information is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing, especially seeinf as everyone in this game is a power role waiting to happen.

I can’t wait for the end game where we lose because we didn’t mass claim and scum claimed some inane nonsense that let them get away with a whole lot of bullshit so I can go “I told you so”.

Anyway, my top scum reads are Pie, Wryly, Lunatic. I had a town read on Thoth initially, but him calling me scum after he gave a bunch of reasons to townread me is pretty weird. Whiteflame did the same thing to me in Chicago Bears, on the second to last day of that game, and he was scum.

My only townreads are Wylted and Whiteflame, the latter for actually trying to understand what I’m saying and not just dismissing outright, even if he disagreed with it.

It’s a role whose primary value is in getting townread, and it’s pretty good at that, if you aren’t prepared for the possibility of a Mafia doctor.

You only block your team’s nightkill if you heal the same person they attack at night.

Mafia Doctor is just a Doctor who is of the Mafia alignment. Identical night action, differenr alignment. Reason I say Mafia doctor (probably) doesn’t exist is that you don’t need a fake claim when you’re Mafia doctor; you can just visit w townie player at night, heal them over and over. Bulletproof alibi because most of the time Doctor is a Town role.

mechanics over behaviour*

“Focused on mechanic sober behaviour”

I have literally given multie reads?!?! What is this? Mamma mia

Strange how everyone scumreads me but nobody wants to vote me. What kind of scum am I?!

On that note, Pie’s insistence thag I would die for claiming watcher might be a scum slip that Scum have a Ninja. Remember that scum have “fake claims” which implies their actual abilities are scummy; why give fake claims to, say, a Mafia Doctor?

I think he is sayig that with such fervour because he is scum and Ninja stuff is on his mind. Kinda like “ye dost protest too much”.

VTL ILikePie5

I fail to see what’s scummy or “atrocious” about my posting. You literally all saw my scum game and how difficult it was for me to post anything meaningful at all. This is not even close to that game.

Awesome hasn’t seen it but I would like to hear an explanation from him as to how my posting is “atrocious”.

“So you’re fine with roles being revealed? That doesn’t make sense at all”

One is me saying it would be shitty for scum to be outed over flavour, the other is me pushing for a mass claim of all abilities so we know 1) what abilties are in the game (that way people cannot make up bullshit like “hey ackshually I’m this panda that shoots lasers out of it ass and I can kill people at night if they get roleblocked”, and if they do lie they have to stick to it to the end of the game), 2) people have to claim their roles, if later down the line multiple players effectively counterclaim them it makes it likely they were scum (or redirected but there are still ways to verify certain claims)

3) we can coordinate night actions

on the topic of 3), i think a different set of people should have favour “given” to them each night so people can prove their roles and whatnot