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They pray 5 times a day and are promised 72 virgins in paradise for being a martyr.


Who promised them that?

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Setting aside the blatant lie the right keeps repeating about the American left being communists… the constant labeling, fixation, and demonization of democrats as socialists never ceases to amaze me.


Why would you be surprised by it, historically almost all fascist movements insisted that their opposition are communists.


"The streets of our country are in turmoil. The Universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country ... Without law and order our nation can not survive." Adolph Hitler 1932, also Benito Mussolini, Francisco Franco, and Donald Trump.



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It makes sense to elect a Muslim mayor in New York 


There are a lot of reason's Zohran Mamdani won, another is that Americans are outraged that Trump is implementing Project 2025, which is a plan to turn America into a Christian Nationalist Theocracy, I think another reason the people of New York elected a Muslim mayor was to show what they think of project 2025.

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Socialism always ends up becoming a form of feudalism


You think Sweden and Norway are feudal systems? Even for you, that's just idiotic.


, as whoever collects the taxes gets exponentially powerful, insulated from their own mess, and rich. So much for "no Kings."


That's exactly what "no Kings" was protesting against.

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Mamdani is a Muslim elected after 9/11. Kinda sick, but other than that what do you think his policies of a $30 an hour minimum wage and free childcare for everyone effect NYC?


I know that New York voters prefer that over Fascism.


How do you think fascism would effect NYC?

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If it was legal it wouldn't be rape.

Though true, herd mentality dictates alfa male dominance.

Are you an alfa male Remy?


He'll have to go upstairs and ask his mom.


"Mom, am I an alpha male"


"No dear, you are a barking little chihuahua with undeveloped grapes for testicles, now come eat your cereal.)

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I got it. after 9/11 the Islamaphobia was a bad thing. and getting a Muslim mayor elected is a good thing.


If that's all you can cognitively process, then it's the best you can do, so yeah, you got it kiddie.



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You can have rational justification for both, I will agree.


That's why I said neither position is logically coercive, one can rationalize either position logically.


But one excludes God, if I understand correctly, and I think that side is wrong because in all possible scenarios there is no logical explanation for God not existing.


We are talking about a transcendent reality, which is to say, it transcends logical analysis.


maybe we’re getting into semantics with you saying rational justification and me saying logical explanation, so I’ll say there’s no correct explanation for God not existing


Because "You can have rational justification for both", it is presented to us as a choice, and a matter of faith.



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Nobody cares about your links. Come up with your own arguments. I can cite a 500 pg red pill book, but that's not an argument. I'm not going to dig for your points because you are too lazy to argue on your own.


The Danger of Incels—and How We Shift the Thinking of Men Attracted to These Groups - Ms. Magazine


Predicting harm among incels (involuntary celibates): the roles of mental health, ideological belief and social networking (accessible) - GOV.UK



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Then why did you say after 9/11, only Trump could install a Muslim mayor in New York City, like that's a bad thing?


I didn't say that Trump installed a mayor, in this country the President doesn't install mayors, they are elected. What I said was "after 911 only Trump could get a Muslim elected mayor", try to pay attention Pumpkin.


Unless you were framing your 9/11 attack on New York as a good thing, in which case your OP makes 100% sense.


You are blathering nonsense again; your inferiority complex makes you act out in the most inane ways; your statement is hopelessly illogical, it's downright stupid to conclude that this is somehow saying that this translates into "the 9/11 attack on New York as a good thing".


Let me try to dumb it down far enough that you might understand.


You see, after the 911 attack there was a great deal of Islamophobia and anti-Muslim sentiment and in New York city which has lingered to this day, Last night the country demonstrated resounding disapproval of Trump, the Republican Party for supporting Trump, and anyone Trump endorsed. Consequently, New Yorkers chose a Muslim Democratic Socialist over the Republican Candidate, and the independent candidate that Trump endorsed. I don't believe that would have happened if it weren't for Trump's lawlessness and dictatorship tendencies and the Republican parties embrace of his Fascist tendencies. Trump has created political chaos that has resulted in surprising outcomes.


Go back and read my post again, read slowly for comprehension, maybe out reading loud will help. Hopefully, with this explanation in mind, you can begin to grasp the meaning of what you read.





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NYC elected a self described hard core socialist/communist. 


Not true Sunshine, Trump calls him that, he is self-described as a democratic socialist.


AI: Socialism, communism, and democratic socialism differ in their approach to government, economy, and individual libertySocialism typically involves government or collective ownership of key industries within a mixed or market economy. Communism, in its theoretical form, aims for a classless society with no state, where the community owns the means of production; historically, "communist states" have been authoritarian, with the state controlling the economy. Democratic socialism combines socialist goals with democratic processes, advocating for a mixed economy with public and private sectors and achieving social reforms through democratic elections rather than revolution. 

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people who want to normalize 🍇 are just sick in the head imo


Dangerously so.


AI: Incel culture is widely considered dangerous due to its deep-seated misogyny, promotion of violence against women and "Chads" (attractive men), and its documented link to real-world mass casualty attacks and other hate crimes. Law enforcement agencies in several countries, including the US and Canada, classify violent incel activity as a form of ideological extremism or terrorism. 


Key dangers and characteristics of incel culture include:

  1. Ideology of Hate and Entitlement: Incel ideology is rooted in the belief that men are entitled to sexual and romantic relationships, and that women and society are to blame for denying them this perceived right. Women are often dehumanized, referred to by derogatory slurs like "foids" (female humanoids) and "Stacys," and blamed for their own "involuntary celibacy".
  2. Promotion of Violence: Online incel forums are often saturated with homicidal and suicidal rhetoric, including rape threats and fantasies, and discussions about violence against women. While most members do not become violent, the community creates an echo chamber where extreme views and calls for a "rebellion" are amplified and normalized among a vulnerable minority.
  3. Real-World Attacks: Several perpetrators of mass murders and attempted attacks have identified as incels or espoused incel beliefs, with some citing earlier incel attackers like Elliot Rodger as inspiration or "martyrs". Law enforcement officials believe violent incels have murdered at least 47 people in North America in recent years.
  4. Radicalization Pipeline: Vulnerable young men grappling with social isolation and poor mental health can be drawn into these online communities seeking belonging. A "radicalization pipeline" moves some individuals from a state of frustration to "blackpilling" (a nihilistic belief that their situation is unchangeable) which can lead to the endorsement of violence as their only recourse.
  5. Intersection with other Extremism: Incel ideology often overlaps with other extreme views, including white supremacy, far-right ideologies, racism, and homophobia, creating a complex and multifaceted threat landscape. 


Efforts to address this danger focus on recognizing incel misogyny as a form of violent extremism, deplatforming harmful content, and intervening with individuals who show warning signs or are struggling with the underlying issues of loneliness and mental distress. 


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The simple and undeniable fact is the Theistic conclusion in not logically coercive, the human experience of reality is theistically ambiguous, which is to say that the human experience can be interpreted religiously or naturalistically with equal rational justification.


What do you mean “theistically ambiguous”?


"...which is to say that the human experience can be interpreted religiously or naturalistically with equal rational justification."

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AI:


Incel communities exhibit a significant and disturbing "rape obsession", characterized by the frequent glorification, promotion, and justification of sexual violence against women. This is a core component of the extreme misogyny prevalent within these online subcultures, which are considered by some experts to be a form of violent extremism or even domestic terrorism. 


Key findings and characteristics include:

  1. Prevalence of Discussions: A 2022 study by the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) on the largest incel forum found that users posted about rape, on average, every 29 minutes during the study period.
  2. Endorsement of Sexual Violence: Analysis of forum discussions reveals overwhelming support for rape among users who express an opinion on the topic (89% support in one study), often viewing it as a justified response or "revenge" for women rejecting them.
  3. Sense of Entitlement to Sex: The fundamental incel ideology posits that men are "entitled" to sex, and women who deny them are to blame for their situation. This sense of entitlement is used to rationalize nonconsensual sex.
  4. Dehumanization of Women: Women are routinely dehumanized and objectified on these forums using derogatory slurs (e.g., "foid," "roastie") which makes it easier to justify violence against them.
  5. "Rape Pill" Ideology: A specific subset within the community adheres to a "rape pill" ideology, which explicitly advocates for the legalization of rape and the removal of female consent as a factor in sexual relations.
  6. Normalizing Violence: Beyond online rhetoric, the ideology has been linked to real-world violence, including mass killings perpetrated by self-identified incels (such as Elliot Rodger and Alek Minassian) who left behind manifestos detailing their desire to "punish" sexually active women.
  7. Fantasies and Encouragement: Incel forums are rife with graphic fantasies of violence against women, and members often encourage each other to commit violent acts, sometimes even urging those considering suicide to commit murder first. 


In essence, the "obsession" stems from a profound sense of victimization and a belief that women's sexual autonomy is the cause of their suffering, leading to a hateful and violent ideology that promotes nonconsensual sex as a form of perceived justice or power assertion. 









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Oh no, did your virtue signalling fail when you got upset about a Muslim Mayor?


I didn't get upset about a Muslim Mayor; you are projecting again.

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I have no doubt that social psychology is an actual shtick; I just think it is often practiced poorly. Why do you think it's called "practice?" Because that term is often only applied to "professionals."


Yeah, who needs science when you have conspiracy theories LOL.

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Trump got his ass kicked last night and he wasn't even on the ballot.


EVERYONE Trump endorsed got their ass kicked, if he wanted to demolish the East Wing quicker; he should have just given it his endorsement. For NYC Mayor, Trump endorsed his brother in sexual assault per the adjudicated rapist code, Mamdani crushed it, after 911 only Trump could get a Muslim elected mayor.


Between now and the midterms it's gonna be fun watching Republicans scramble to put distance between them and Trump, stay loyal and the voters destroy you, don't stay loyal and Trump will destroy you, they earned it.


Democrats only need two house seats in the midterms, I'll bet we pick up a dozen or more. We need 4 senators to flip, harder but I think we will do it.


Finally, the tide has turned, we might just save democracy after all.







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You literally cant be both incel and a rapist. However, women talk of rape all the time and we are not calling them obsessed with rape. Are incels under some "privileged" status where they become rapists by just talking about rape often enough?


You didn't look up the word "obsessed, its only a few keystrokes.


I need to get back to telling my dog how to castle.

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I mentioned that RemyBrown is an incel that is obsessed with raping women

How can he be both incel and a rapist?


I'd try to explain language to you but I would rather spend my time trying something with a chance of success, like teaching my dog to play chess.


Try looking up the word "obsess"...or you could research incel culture and its obsession with denigrating women, murder, rape, and (for you) pedophilia.

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It just comes across more like a lecture rather than a persuasive piece. There's no objective "real issue" except the one she says exists. That sounds oddly....undemocratic? How about, (wild thought) we leave such a decision to the people and neither your bombastic president Trump nor this obscure and condescending author. That would come across as a lot more like an actual democracy and nothing described in your posted article.


Free speech is undemocratic lol...how's that for a broken mind.


"Democracy is talking itself to death” - Benito Mussolini


A few other Fascist quotes about suppressing free speech:


"When 97 percent of the stories are bad about a person, it's no longer free speech" – Donald Trump (On negative news coverage being illegal)


"I would think maybe their license should be taken away" – Donald Trump (On news networks that criticize him)


"We're going to have people sue you like you've never got sued before" – Donald Trump (To reporters on promise to change libel laws to make it easier to sue journalists and news outlets for criticism)


“Critics of the Supreme Court should be put in jail” – Donald Trump (On women protesting the reversal of Roe vs Wade)



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Hmmmmm

Not sure of the relevance of your comment.

Please explain.


Why on earth would you expect a relevant comment from Debby?


That would be unprecedented, maybe you should get over it.


BTW, it's not her fault, it's just the way she was programmed.


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You trust in man to tell you the age of the earth, yet their measurements are flawed.
It takes more faith to believe in evolution than creation, for you must trust the claims of man.


What you are contending requires a direct refutation of the most general principles of most of our physical and biological sciences. As a unifying theory of biology, evolution holds true. Its mechanisms are by no means completely understood and it does not in any way eliminate the mystery of life, question the existence of God, or bring into doubt any of the basic tenets of Christianity.


But it is absolutely central to science.


The theory of evolution is the great unifying principle of biology, as powerful a model to biology as Newton's model was to physics. The conceptual framework of the theory of evolution makes sense of a profoundly wide range of scientific facts and it does it in a magnificent and comprehensive way. It provides a principle of unity, a framework by which science can attempt to explain, to unify, and to order, a vast amount of disparate data into a consistent whole providing tremendous coherence and clarity. To deny evolution you must bring into question the entire interwoven fabric of scientific research.


Flat out denial of the theory of Evolution requires the concomitant denial of an astounding range of scientific disciplines, not just the disciplines of geology, paleontology, archeology, radiometric dating, genetics, and zoology but also such fundamental disciplines as physics, astronomy, astrophysics, chemistry, biochemistry, geophysics, biology, botany, microbiology, and meteorology, and many others. Because of the interrelated aspect of the sciences, you can't really propose that the theory evolution is false without being fundamentally anti-scientific. You can contend that the theory of evolution is incomplete, nobody claims it is complete. If you could in fact, deny the theory of evolution, it would, in effect, unravel the world of science.


And I just don't see why anyone would want to do that. I simply do not see evolution challenging any of the basic tenets of Christianity; unfortunately, I can't say the same thing about your contention here. In order to support the belief that evolution is false, you accordingly have to postulate a deceptive God, don't you?


You would need to propose a God who would create Man with a rational mind, a sense of wonder, and seeking intellect, while creating a universe with the false appearance of tremendous age with the overwhelming evidence of "evolution" occurring in creation as a trick or something. This concept of a deceptive God is very hard to accept; it strikes me as a much greater challenge to Christianity than any damage the concept of evolution could ever hope to do.


In the end, it takes more faith to believe in your deceptive, trickster God than it does to believe in the science of evolution.

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The result is that we can risk losing sight of the real issues we need to follow to effectively defend our democracy.  

Why does this one person writing this get to decide what the "real issues" are? Doesn't seem very democratic.


How dare her, only the glorious leader decides what the issues are.


"The point isn’t persuasion — it’s reframing identity.... the opponent gets mired in defending themselves from the attack, leaving the control of the narrative entirely in Trump’s hands."


What she had to say is no longer the issue, what she said is irrelevent, her right to say it is the issue, fascists don't like free speech.


Good MAGA, you get a treat.