"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.
Indeed, something else that Christians cannot accept. Jesus was a Full blown Jew and his god was the Hebrew god Yahweh . And if the BIBLE is to be believed he was king of the JEWS not Christians. There were no Christians in Jesu's life time.
Debby wrote:Paul the Apostle did not call the first five books of the Bible (the Torah/Pentateuch) "crap" or "rubbish."
HERE>> https://www.debatecraft.com/forum/c/religion/posts/qf/gods-mercy-and-impressions-of-non-believers-god-cant-win?page=1&comment_number=11
Stephen wrote: Are you sure about that?
The Torah (/ˈtɔːrə, ˈtoʊrə/; Biblical Hebrew: תּוֹרָה Tōrā, "Instruction", "Teaching" or "Law") is the compilation of the first five books of the Hebrew Bible, namely the books of Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.
These 5 books are believed to contain all the rules, regulations, laws and statutes of god. So why is it that these laws are considered to be " shit" by some authors of the New Testament ?
You are confessing you didn’t get “enough education”,
Stop it you absolute freak. I state "NEVER ENOUGH". I could always edit it to state" more than you" Debby.LOL.
For the third time! I want you to show us where the BIBLE says god doubted. You can't deny that you wrote that, thickly.
Follow the history of Judaism and Christianity. This could not have happened unless God doubted his original choice and allowed the switch. Why do you have a problem accepting fact .
So after denying /lying that you ever even said that "god doubted", you are repeating it . LOL
So if you are confident that "God Doubted his decision his pick of the Jews as his chosen model and people.", then simple show us where in the BIBLE god regretting and doubting .
OR just say that its not in the bible at all and that you made it up in your attempt to come across to anyone reading here that you are bible savvy , when you are nothing of the kind.
Why can’t you stick with what the Bible says that there was Jesus and the disciples at the last supper ?
I am. So Why can't you simply admit that John's gospel says Jesus was crucified before the last supper was supposed to have taken place?
LOOK stupid>>>On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?” Nisan 15 Matthew 26;17. Luke and ,Mark say the same.
BUT John says different
JOHN19:14 From then on, Pilate tried to set Jesus free, but the Jewish leaders kept shouting, “If you let this man go, you are no friend of Caesar. Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar.”
When Pilate heard this, he brought Jesus out and sat down on the judge’s seat at a place known as the Stone Pavement (which in Aramaic is Gabbatha). It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.NISAN14
Nope. It says NEVER ENOUGH, you twat. One can never get enough education. Click on the screenshot and open in a new image tab, you dozy twat
NOPE!!! I have said it couldn't have taken place if because JOHN says different, I have shown you both versions.
Read your post#31
You just can't see it can you, stupid?
It means there was no "last" supper and the whole fkn story is a much later invention.
That's correct. Jesus couldn't have had the last supper if John says that he was already dead, could he? You absolute moron!
HERE THEY ARE AGAIN>
On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?” Nisan 15 Matthew 26;17. Luke and ,Mark say the same.
BUT John says different
JOHN19:14 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.
“Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews. NISAN14
Get your bible out stupid.
Debby the thicko wrote: This made God doubt his pick of the Jews as his chosen model and people.
The evidence is there the church has replace the temple. Christianity has replaced Judaism the religion the Jews followed. Even the promised homeland has remained a dot in the map of the Middle East surrounded by Arab nations.
For the third time! I want you to show us where the BIBLE says god doubted. You can't deny that you wrote that, thickly.
Because you did. So stop lying AGAIN!!:
Debby the thicko wrote: This made God doubt his pick of the Jews as his chosen model and people.
7th line down HERE>> https://www.debatecraft.com/forum/c/religion/posts/qf/gods-mercy-and-impressions-of-non-believers-god-cant-win?page=1&comment_number=7
NOPE!!! I have said it couldn't have taken place if because JOHN says different, I have shown you both versions.
HERE THEY ARE AGAIN>
On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?” Nisan 15 Matthew 26;17. Luke and ,Mark say the same.
BUT John says different
JOHN19:14 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.
“Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews. NISAN14
Get your bible out stupid.
"Debby wrote:You confessed in your profile you lack enough education
Stephen wrote:"Confessed" LOL ffs, you really are fkn desperate aren't you thicko?
Its there for all to see and only a desperate twat such as yourself would attempt to interpret what I answered in my bio as me being somehow uneducated.
Your profile said you didn’t receive enough education.
Nope: you should read that for what it is you fkn idiot.
You confessed in your profile you lack enough education
"Confessed" LOL ffs, you really are fkn desperate aren't you thicko?
Its there for all to see and only a desperate twat such as yourself would attempt to interpret what I answered in my bio as me being somehow uneducated.
You are clearly stating , “there was no "last" supper and the whole fkn story is a much later invention.”
Then you twist the entire story to include it in all the Gospels.
NOPE! I have "twisted nothing.
I said clearly in post one (1) >>>>In Matthew, Mark and Luke, the last supper is on the first day of Passover. But in John's gospel it takes place a day earlier and Jesus is crucified on the first day of Passover.
If Jesus was crucified the day BEFORE Passover, Then Jesus and the disciples could have had a "LAST SUPPER- if he was dead.
On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?” Nisan 15 Matthew 26;17. Luke and ,Mark say the same.
BUT John says different
JOHN19:14 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.
“Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews. NISAN14
Get your bible out stupid.
Stephen wrote: You haven't shown us where in the BIBLE that god "doubted"?
Debby the thicko wrote:No where did I say that God doubted.
Debby the thicko wrote: This made God doubt his pick of the Jews as his chosen model and people.
HERE>> https://www.debatecraft.com/forum/c/religion/posts/qf/gods-mercy-and-impressions-of-non-believers-god-cant-win?page=1&comment_number=7
Debby the thicko wrote: Paul the Apostle did not call the first five books of the Bible (the Torah/Pentateuch) "crap" or "rubbish."
Are you sure about that?
You are clearly stating , “there was no "last" supper and the whole fkn story is a much later invention.”
No. I am showing YOU that if it is as John says that the crucifixion took place on the day before Passover then there simply couldn't have been a "last"supper BECAUSE Matthew, Mark and Luke, state that the last supper was on the first day of Passover.
Time to get your bible out again, Stupid.
"Debby" Wrote: This made God doubt his pick of the Jews as his chosen model and people.
Stephen wrote: Does it say in the BIBLE that god "doubted" ? Are you saying that god thought he'd made a wrong decision?
"Debby" Wrote:The Bible shows the switch the teachings of Paul changed from preaching to the Jews to reaching out to the gentiles who were originally banned from Judaism.
You haven't shown us where in the BIBLE that god "doubted"?
And while you mention Paul, doesn't Paul tell his audience the that first five books of the BIBLE - the laws of Torah/ Old Testament- "are crap and rubbish"?
This made God doubt his pick of the Jews as his chosen model and people.
Does it say in the BIBLE that god "doubted" ? Are you saying that god thought he'd made a wrong decision?
Yet God chose them to spread Christianity 300 years later
I see. So god chose Hebrews and Jews to spread Christianity. just listen to yourself FFS
Yep, who knows what these sort of people were on, alcohol, hasish, khat...Anything to connect with the spirit realm.
Indeed Serge. And what about those drunken sailors in the boat that saw Jesus walk on water? They must have had a right goat-skin full.
Matthew14. and the boat was already a considerable distance from land, buffeted by the waves because the wind was against it.
Shortly before dawn Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake. When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. “It’s a ghost,” they said, and cried out in fear.😂😂😂
Here is proof you are distorting the Bible by claiming there was no last supper.
Nope. The story is still there undistorted, as it was written, in the bible, for any clown to believe if s/he chooses . I am simply pointing out the GLAAAARing contradiction between what John has to say as opposed to that of those "drunken disciples" you mentioned, in the gospels of Matthew , Mark and Luke.
Stephen wrote: Here's' one that you might like , this is from memory too. In Matthew, Mark and Luke, the last supper is on the first day of Passover. But in John's gospel it takes place a day earlier and Jesus is crucified on the first day of Passover.
Do you see the fkn GLAAARING problem here thicko!? Of course you don't. You're just too stupid.
THICKO DEBBY WROTE: Despite these differences in timing, all four gospels agree that the Crucifixion occurred on a Friday.
The last supper was a private moment. The crucifixion was a public event with more scrutiny. Remember alcohol was served during the last supper and that could have clouded the disciples recollection.
Drunken disciples, that's a new one. LOL.
You just can't see it can you, stupid?
It means there was no "last" supper and the whole fkn story is a much later invention.
Tell me thicko, what is the reason for baptism?
People get baptized as a public declaration of their faith in Jesus Christ, symbolizing an inward spiritual cleansing, the forgiveness of sins, and the beginning of a new life. It acts as an outward sign of obedience to Jesus' command, representing being buried with Him in death and raised with Him in resurrection.
Keeping in mind that there were no Christians in Jesus' time and that Jesus was a full blown Jew, is that the reason given in the bible.
YES or NO?
Here's' one that you might like , this is from memory too. In Matthew, Mark and Luke, the last supper is on the first day of Passover. But in John's gospel it takes place a day earlier and Jesus is crucified on the first day of Passover.
Do you see the fkn GLAAARING problem here thicko!? Of course you don't. You're just too stupid.
THICKO DEBBY WROTE: Despite these differences in timing, all four gospels agree that the Crucifixion occurred on a Friday.
The last supper was a private moment. The crucifixion was a public event with more scrutiny. Remember alcohol was served during the last supper and that could have clouded the disciples recollection.
You just can't see it can you, stupid?
Tell me thicko, what is the reason for baptism?
You keep finding contradictions in the Bible
That's because they are not hard to spot when read for yourself. And of course with a reasonably good memory and an eye for details, they practically leap form its pages. and there are plenty more than just the handful I have posted here on this forum.
Here's' one that you might like , this is from memory too. In Matthew, Mark and Luke, the last supper is on the first day of Passover. But in John's gospel it takes place a day earlier and Jesus is crucified on the first day of Passover.
Do you see the fkn GLAAARING problem here thicko!? Of course you don't. You're just too stupid.
Christianity being a non-practicing Christian?
You are the part timer , your confused little soul. You'd' never read the bible until questioned on it and even then you tried to palm off answers from AI as your own responses to the questions put to you. You are a fkn fraud.
Making people drop dead - sorry, I know that has happened, but I don't recall a specific instance of it,
Do you mean personally or biblically?
Death was a known factor in ancient times. meaning pre B.C.E., by observed lack of breathing and lack of pulse, and then, in a matter of days counted on one hand, particularly in a warm-to-hot environment, the beginning of rot and associated odor. Lazarus and the others were known to be dead by these factors.
Those factors may well have been the case when a person was really "dead" in the biological sense, faux.
Stephen wrote: I prefer the KJ . So it the king James for you too then?
Debby wrote: Yes I like the KJ. But I often quote from the New International Version (NIV). The English translation is simpler.
What a confused individual you are, You just can't get it together can you? You re all over the place
When I asked what is your Most trusted English bible , you wrote:
Debby wrote: The (NEW) Revised Standard Version , the (NEW) Jerusalem Bible, or the (NEW) American Standard Version are the recommended Bibles.The K8ng James Version is ok if you can understand the old English translation.
https://www.debatecraft.com/forum/c/religion/posts/pq/whats-your-most-trusted-english-bible?page=1&comment_number=2
"Debby" wrote: warning against distorting the text.
Stephen wrote; wrote: Which certainly happens to be a terrible habit Christians have of doing .
"Debby" wrote: The only one here distorting the Bible is you. You admitted you lack the education and you are a non-practicing Christian.
Oh stop it. How have I added to or taken away what is written in the bible - which is what the revelation warning is all about, you absolute clown?
Part of the miracle of raising people from the dead as was Lazarus is that this is a different matter [.....]
Indeed , in that Lazarus wasn't "dead" or had he died at all. And there was no "miracle" involved?
Neither was the daughter of Jairus nor was the widow's son of Nain.
These raisings were nothing more than ritualistic ceremonies as in a religious ceremonial rite. They were a promotional raising to a higher degree in the Jesus movement. Which I believe the bible itself proves. And which I intend to show.
Making people drop dead - sorry, I know that has happened, but I don't recall a specific instance of it,
Do you mean personally or biblically?
Stephen wrote: So are you telling us that you chose KJ version ? If so why?
Thicky DEBBY wrote: Its for all the reasons given below.
I prefer the KJ . So it the king James for you too then?
learn to read.
it says anyone who adds to it
I can read very well thicko. I know what it says I quoted from revelation right at e the start of the thread.. my own thread.
warning against distorting the text.
Which certainly happens to be a terrible habit Christians have of doing .
Off you go stupid.
You have ignored he question. WHY?
So are you telling us that you chose KJ version ? If so why?
