So the question is; does this warning apply to everything that is written in the BIBLE? But that bone head calling himself "Debby" disagrees with you entirely.

LOL you really are a twat. You have spent nearly 20 posts on another thread arguing and swerving and obfuscating as to weather or not the warning written in John's revelation applied to only John or the bible as a whole, where you finally told us that it applies to all of the bible.

And only now on this thread do you tell us this:

DEBBY wrote: While often applied to the entire Bible, this warning is specifically directed at the Book of Revelation to protect its message.

What a complete and utter twat you are! Wherever would you be without you untrustworthy AI

King James is the most popular English translation of the Bible.

Did you actually read the title of this thread?

HERE IT IS>> How do you guys decide which bible to use?

So are you telling us that you chose KJ version ? If so why?

So, John's warring applies to his book, alone.

That'll be Revelation. Hence the reason for my first question on this thread>>> So the question is; does this warning apply to everything that is written in the BIBLE? But that bone head calling himself "Debby" disagrees with you entirely.

Gods Warning Given To John.

https://www.debatecraft.com/forum/c/religion/posts/q2/gods-warning-given-to-john

 I tire of uneducated claims.

Me too! Such as making "DEAD" people come back to life after rotting and stinking for three or more days?.

Walking on water.?

Making people instantly drop down "dead" because they held funds back from the movement?

Healing people with words alone, is that the kind of "uneducated claims" you are talking about.?

--> @Debby. Like you infer, the modern bible was modified, adapted, translated and retranslated...So made up in the first millennium and the first half of the second....And most of the Jesus tales were fabricated sometime after his execution....And Jesus's ex-boyfriend John made up the Book of Revelation when he was approximately 90 years of age after receiving messages...What we would probably diagnose today as senile dementia...

Though as you probably know, it is a widely held view that it was a different John altogether who compiled the fantasy ending to the NT.

Very nice. I was going to get around to all the amendments and alterations and expunging that no doubt has happened to this "Holy Book" since revelation is said to have been written...

Such as the timing of the Ascension, details of Judas's death, and accounts of Paul's conversion and much more.

You have practically saved me the trouble.

Thank you

Stephen Wrote: And against the dire warning not to add or take away from the "BOOK". Thank you.

Debby wrote:Added as in something new not known or mentioned before.

Correct!!! Something added after the fact. I.E after the Revelation.

Debby wrote: Lazarus was still alive so they could not write about his death.

But Lazarus hadn't died at all. I shall be showing this in a future thread. LOL, you can fudge and shuffle the dates as much as you like but even someone as thick and stupid as you cannot deny that the gospels were tampered with. i.e. they have been added to and and taken away from.

Off you go now.

Mark was updated to be consistent with the rest of the disciples as far as the resurrection goes.

That'll be added to then. and decades after the fact.

And against the dire warning not to add or take away from the "BOOK". Thank you.

 which emphasizes Jesus’s divine pre-existence over his earthly origins. 

Which was against the dire warnings he decided to take away - from that which was already written in the BOOK, Thank you.

And Lazarus, wasn't dead either.

In Revelation 22:18-19 we are warned that no man should add to or take away what is written.

"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book".

Its so much easier and quicker these day to research just about anything. Long gone are the days of swatting for hours in libraries, were as nowadays just click of a mouse will do the heavy lifting for you with reasonably good results.

So can I suggest that you click yours and lets see if that stern warning was adhered to by the Gospel writers or the Church leaders and followers of the church ?

Well right off the bat we can seen that the resurrection storey in Mark was a much later "added to" and there is not a single biblical scholar that will deny this.

What was or "taken away from" John's gospel? Well only the immaculate conception and birth of Jesus - king of the Jews - the Messiah, lord and saviour of all mankind himself.

If we research extrabiblical theological material we can find that the raising of Lazarus from the dead back to life is also an addition.

Stephen wrote: So does this warning apply to the BIBLE as a whole i.e every part of the bible OR does it ONLY apply to the book of Revelation???

Debby wrote: Can’t you even read the verse you posted. The warning applies to anyone distorting the Bible like you are doing.

LOL I can read very good, thank you. So its the Bible as a whole and not just Revelation. Thank you.

You just cannot face it can you? Your bible has been added to and taken away from many times. By the biblical authors themselves. They too have "distorted" the bible . Not that it mentions anything about distorting .

I have and simply couldn't change , that is to say "add to" or "taken away" what has been written in the bible including revelation. As per warning.

The verse clearly says it’s a warning to any man if he changes any part of the Bible.

But you said it was a warning GIVEN to John. That’s a distortion of the very verse you quoted.

GIVEN TO JOHN YOU ABSOLTE CLOWN!!

And you STILL haven't answerd the question. Why not!?

Debby wrote: referring to those who deliberately corrupt or reject the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Nope its about altering the content, IE adding or taking away, from what John was told to write in the book of revelation.

LOOOK YOU FKN IDIOT!!!!! >>> For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. REVELATION 22:18-19.

So does this warning apply to the BIBLE as a whole i.e every part of the bible OR does it ONLY apply to the book of Revelation???

If you cannot answer, just leave lesve the thread,

Listen TWAT!!!

I have not misrepresented the facts in revelation. I have simply posted two verses asking if the warning included all the bible or just revelation.

ARE you NOW going to dispute that the quote below is from Revelation !!!!???

Revelation22:18-19KJV. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book".

WHY would you be so frightened to just say yes or no?

Why keep on!?? are you fk mental?

I have said from the beginning that Simon carried the cross to Golgotha. I'm not interested in who carried it part the way first. This is why I highlighted the contradiction between John's gospel and the other three gospels.

So we can leave this one here.

So you finally agree Simon carried the cross the rest of the way to Golgotha.

I have never once said otherwise, you fkn idiot!

Stephen wrote: Does warning the warning given to John in Revelation22:18-19, apply to everything that is written in the BIBLE? Yes or No?

Debby wrote: Your reading comprehension is seriously limited by your lack of education.

That'll be you sunshine.

Debby wrote:As the posts suggest it is not a warning to John in Revelation 22:18-19.

But a warning given to John (to write in the book) all the same.

Debby wrote:The verses are understood as a solemn warning against tampering with the divine message, often interpreted as referring to those who deliberately corrupt or reject the testimony of Jesus Christ described in the book.

You are still swerving. Why? Just simply tell us if this warning about adding to or taking away applies to the whole of the bible OR JUST the book of Revelation?

Debby wrote:That would include you from the number of instances where you questioned and mocked the Bible.

I didn't write the bible. Therefore I could neither add to it nor could I take anything away.

Stephen wrote: Does warning the warning given to John in Revelation22:18-19, apply to everything that is written in the BIBLE? Yes or No?

Debby wrote: Your reading comprehension is seriously limited by your lack of education.

That'll be you sunshine.

Debby wrote:As the posts suggest it is not a warning to John in Revelation 22:18-19.

But a warning given to John all the same.

Debby wrote:The verses are understood as a solemn warning against tampering with the divine message, often interpreted as referring to those who deliberately corrupt or reject the testimony of Jesus Christ described in the book.

You are still swerving. Why? Just simply tell us if this warning about adding to or taking away applies to the whole of the bible OR JUST the book of Revelation?

Debby wrote:That would include you from the number of instances where you questioned and mocked the Bible.

I didn't write the bible. Therefore I could neither add to it nor could I take anything away.

OK so its everything in the bible then.

 the Romans forced Simon of Cyrene to carry it the rest of the way . [ To Golgotha]

Indeed.

You are not a practicing Christian, so you wouldn’t know the truth.

Your opinion of me counts for nothing.

Listen. The question is easy enough. I asked simply: Does warning the warning given to John in Revelation22:18-19, apply to everything that is written in the BIBLE?

Yes or No?

If you cannot answer that simply question just fk off this thread.

You posted this about changing, altering or tampering with the Bible which is exactly what you are doing.

do not change, alter, taken away or add to this book from what is write in this book. Or tamper with it in anyway.

Correct and I also posted what the bible says too you dkn idiot se bold highlight

Revelation22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book".

Which put simply means : Which when put into Simple put into plain understandable English ; do not change ,alter, taken away or add to this book from what is write in this book. Or tamper with it in anyway.

Are you disputing that, thicko. ?

I don't care what "mainstream Christian Theology" says. I can only go by the bibl. Just you yourself have said many times that you only need the bible.

It was Jesus that was crucified not Simon. 

I don't believe that I have even suggested that it wasn't Jesus. But since you mentioned it, I do know of many prominent ex members of the clergy have suggested as such..

Why the Bible should not be altered. Not a word should be changed or added.

OK. So now answer the question

I didn't ask why, did I, bible dunce? I asked: does this warning apply to everything that is written in the BIBLE?

Altering the text can lead to false religion and doctrinal error.

I should imagine that is obvious.

The purpose of this command is to encourage obedience to God’s word , which is considered perfect and complete.

I'd like you especially to remember that.

The warning highlights how individuals will be held accountable for how they handle scriptures.

I that in fact I posted that part of the warning it in my OP. Did you miss it?

It is a good time to stop questioning scriptures and inserting your own translation instead of just following the written Word.

Stop it! In many places the bible it tells us to try and test and question the scriptures.

In acts, James, Thessalonians, and John, to name a few.

Revelation22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book".

Simply put into plain understandable English ; do not change ,alter, taken away or add to this book from what is write in this book. Or tamper with it in anyway.

So the question is; does this warning apply to everything that is written in the BIBLE?

Which clearly states that it was Simon and not Jesus.

I quote from several different bibles. Based on the translation that is easiest to read.

Well you have still failed no matter which version/s of the bible you choose to believe.

I quote from several different bibles. Based on the translation that is easiest to read.

But not necessarily correct..

.Bible offers to explain the empty tomb and why the rock was moved.

Nope. It does nothing of the sort.

Debby wrote:The scribes made corrections when they thought they had come across something that was incomplete or missing details which they tried to fill in.

Stephen wrote: Made it up as they went along then, eh bible thicky?

Debby wrote: It’s more like filled in the blanks where an explanation was needed.

Indeed to suite their own agenda

t appears you need every verse in the Bible explained to you

Nope: only those that clearly and blatantly contradict themselves .Which is something you in particular are incapable of doing.

Not a single one of those verse point to the so-called trinity. Indeed they clear point to the fact that Jesus and god (the father) are undoubtedly two separate entities.

The scribes made corrections when they thought they had come across something that was incomplete or missing details which they tried to fill in.

Made it up as they went along then, eh bible thicky?

Those are the words spoken by Jesus and each can be explained when taken in context of .

Good. Then explain them in context for us.