Which ones? I see all 9.
Which ones? I see all 9.
Yep, exactly.
Oh, and thank you for your help on this one, forgot to tag you.
Game results have been submitted.
Endgame up.
1st place: Mafia (Pie, Thoth)
2nd place: Town (Luna, Shining, Kohai, Wryly, Cerulean, Vader, RexFavilla)
Roles: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mdCEiMJmyiKynOr1bjK72cRU5Ye_B_CSK6ONyJ53mXQ/edit?tab=t.0
Night Actions (NP1):
RexFavilla recruited Wryly
Wryly Watched RexFavilla (no visit)
Thoth Janitored/Muggered Lunatic
Pie RB'd Wryly (JK'd by Shining)
Night Actions (NP2):
Thoth Strongmanned Wryly
Pie RB'd RexFavilla
Going to start by owning up to a pretty big goof on my part. You might notice that Lunatic had a flip... despite being Janitored. That was my error, I posted the DP before I realized that I'd forgotten to factor that into the night actions. My focus was on the Mugger aspect and since that didn't do anything with the Informed role, in my head, I must have decided that the Janitor didn't, either. My response to that was initially just to give them another shot of the Janitor, but Pie opted for me to give them a fake character claim they didn't use instead. So the long and short of it is that Lunatic's flip shouldn't have gone up at all, though doing so may have helped scum more since town struggled with the information that Luna flipped with and I think that helped them secure a lynch on Shining.
Oh, and to answer the question I've been asked a few times already, the "greater nuisance than they know" was actually in Luna's own role: he was a hidden Nexus. Back when I designed the Castlevania game, I included a hidden Sleepwalker that also sadly went nowhere, but the idea here was to cause some confusion and paranoia and I guess that ended up happening, just not the way I'd intended. Mharman and I made this change at the final stages of designing this game (I had Sally as the just straight up Nexus, but we didn't want two SOP claims to mess with POE that much and we both still wanted the Nexus). It might have been a little too cheeky looking back at it.
Setting that aside, I think this might have been a little scumsided, particularly with the Mugger which would have been a much bigger deal if it had succeeded in taking a role along with the Janitor hiding that flip. The 3X RB was a little excessive as well, though given that Pie only got one actual shot off (the JK prevented his first), it didn't end up being a factor here. I might be thinking differently about this if town had gotten their Dreamer off, but I do think I shorted town a protective role.
In terms of what went wrong for town, the biggest problem was inactivity. Inactivity up until the closing hours of the first DP led to a hasty lynch on Kohai, who hadn't even claimed and whose results could really have helped town. He might have been lynched anyway if he'd claimed, but I doubt it. Pie probably would have RB'd him, but given the JK stopped his night action NP1, the Dream could very well have gotten off and town could have had significantly more insight than it did. Wryly's Watcher result didn't do anything to narrow the field, and she didn't end up trusting REF enough to discuss it in chat with him.
I found the Shining lynch pretty baffling. He was the sole claimed protective role at that point (there weren't others), so he seemed pretty lock town on that basis. I better understand the decision to lynch REF in the end, but only a little. It would not be a first for a game to include a scum Mason who can recruit town members and pass themselves off as town, but with Pie's unused Hider claim on the table making him entirely unconfirmed, he looked like the obvious lynch to me. Pie was preparing for it too, hoping that his flip would help "confirm" Thoth's Strengthener claim (one of the two roles they asked about - the other was Dreamer).
Game MVP was Pie. Dude domineered through much of the game. I agree with him that that kind of approach is NAI, but whether he's scum or town, I always worry when he's taking control of the game.
I'll be /in as a backup for now. Gimme a bit and I might shift to standard.
I’m assuming it was Pie / Thoth
You would be correct.
Discussion can continue in here for the time being, I'll leave it open.
Final Vote Count:
RexFavilla (3/3): Pie, Thoth, Cerulean
Pie (2/3): RexFavilla, Vader
RexFavilla was lynched! He was... innocent!
Yep, that's the game. I'll work on the endgame and post it later today.
Damn, missed that. This is why coffee is needed. Just let me double check.
Votes:
Pie (2/3): RexFavilla, Vader
RexFavilla (2/3): Pie, Cerulean
Just over 2 hours left in the DP.
Votes:
Pie (2/3): RexFavilla, Vader
RexFavilla (1/3): Pie
Just under 12 hours left in the DP.
Votes:
Pie (1/3): RexFavilla
RexFavilla (1/3): Pie
Just under 22 hours left in the DP.
Just over 37 hours remain in the DP.
Votes:
Pie (1/3): RexFavilla
RexFavilla (1/3): Pie
DP3 is on!
Moving right along to DP3.
Lynched:
Shining -
You are Jim Moss! As a former Army soldier, you enter the story when your daughter, Janice Moss, winds up dead. Despite repeated efforts to waylay your search for the killer, you remain dogged in the pursuit. You are particularly adept at psychological torture, interrogating multiple characters and wringing the truth out of them with ease. As such, you are the 2X Jailkeeper! You may put a player in jail, which will protect that player from death, but also prevent them from being able to successfully perform any night actions on that same night.
You win with the Town.
Died in the Night:
Wryly -
You are Janice Moss! Your part in the series begins with an Los Angeles murder case and spirals as you find yourself following a bloody path of kills through the city. Dragging along your depressed partner John Loach, you end up in a relationship with Gene Cousineau and discover Barry Berkman’s role in the murders through him. As such, you are the 1X Watcher/1X Tracker! You may choose to either watch a player to see who visits them during the night or track a player to see who they visit, having one shot of each.
You win with the Town.
Kohai (Gene Cousineau, 1X Dreamer) | Lynched DP1
Lunatic (Sally Reed, Informed Townie) | Killed NP1
Remaining Players:
With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to reach majority for a lynch. This day phase will end on Monday, 12/22/25 at 11:00 AM EST.
Final Vote Count:
Shining (4/4): Vader, Thoth, Wryly, Pie
Vader (1/4): RexFavilla
Cerulean (1/4): Shining
Shining was lynched! He was... innocent!
Submit your night actions! The NP will end in 24 hours, or at 11:00 AM EST on Friday, December 19.
STOP POSTING
Just under 30 minutes left in the DP.
Votes:
Vader (1/4): RexFavilla
Shining (3/4): Vader, Thoth, Wryly
Cerulean (1/4): Shining
Barry: "You are fսckin' nuts, man. Also, I know you're on a farm or something because I can hear goats in the background."
Fuches: "Maybe I'm at the zoo! With my new best friend!"
Barry: "Thought you said you were at a hospital."
(cue Fuches screaming angrily into the phone before throwing it.)
Just south of an hour remaining in the DP.
1 hour and 45 minutes remain in the DP.
Votes:
Vader (1/4): RexFavilla
Shining (2/4): Vader, Thoth
Cerulean (1/4): Shining
Just over 3 hours remain in the DP.
Votes:
Vader (1/4): RexFavilla
Shining (1/4): Vader
Cerulean (1/4): Shining
Just under 10.5 hours remain in the DP.
Votes:
Vader (1/4): RexFavilla
Shining (1/4): Vader
Cerulean (1/4): Shining
Votes:
Thoth (1/4): Cerulean
Vader (1/4): RexFavilla
Shining (1/4): Vader
Cerulean (1/4): Shining
15 hours remain in the DP
Votes:
Thoth (1/4): Cerulean
Vader (1/4): RexFavilla
Shining (1/4): Vader
Cerulean (1/4): Shining
Just over 22 hours left in the DP.