Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 11:06 PM (post #205)
What is our suspicion for WF, how did we get that. I may have overlooked some chats, so idk
The issue is he claimed he was vanilkaized and we are trying to reconcile this with balance
so either
1. Wf is scum lying about being vanillaized and scum does not have a vanillaizer
2. Mag1c is lying about being blackmailed and scum does not have a blackmailer
3. The vanillaizer came from town
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 11:02 PM (post #194)
Where have you beeeen all day?
He’s nocturnal. He posts while all of us normies sleep
Wondering if Noah accidentally slipped
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/9/2026 at 10:55 PM (post #188)
Oh god, I discovered the Follow button earlier and I come back to see 128 notifications
At least I have power back temporarily so I can use my computer, which helps
Reading up now
Hey Thoth. Don’t claim but can you confirm if your role may cause someone to be vacillated
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:53 PM (post #183)
I did not act, I decided to wait until DP3
Why so late in the game?
Targeted or were going to target???
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:51 PM (post #179)
I targeted you two because I had a strong scum read on one of you and a mild Town read on the other. I wanted to see if redirecting a potential Mafia action away from a Townie or forcing a scum PR to target their own teammate would mess up the Mafia's night phase and give us info."
Wait. So did you target or did you not? You said you targeted me but previously said you didn’t act?
I’m gonna get some dinner and sign off. I’m animal sitting this weekend and have a bar mitzvah to attend tomorrow. It’s gonna be a brutal weekend
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:48 PM (post #172)
I was gonna target Kohai and Lunatic, but I changed my mind.
Why me and Luna?
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/9/2026 at 10:47 PM (post #171)
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 9:45 PM (post #170)
I have my laptop open, I'm still getting the notifications, yeah you can ask it.
Can you confirm who you targeted last night if you acted? Super important to sort mechanical stuff. I can explain later.
He just said he didn’t act last night
Can either of you confirm if your role could possibly vanillaize someone?
VTL: Mag1cman
Fuck it. I don’t believe vanilliazer and black mailer exist
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:35 PM (post #164)
I'm gonna get off for the night and probably tomorrow, something bad just happens, I might need some space. If that's OK?
I hope everything is ok. Take your time and take care of yourself. DM me if you ever need someone to talk to about it
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/9/2026 at 10:32 PM (post #161)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 9:30 PM (post #154)
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/9/2026 at 10:28 PM (post #152)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 9:24 PM (post #150)
I think there’s scum between wf / Mag1c. I doubt scum have both vanillaizer and a blackmailer
The more I think about it the more I do not think its even possible. There is way too much soft to negative power on the towns side and having both those roles is just huge before considering the mafia insta-win bit.
Yeah. Plus blackmailer usually means a death if they fail. So that means scum could possibly get essentially a second kill?
That is a question. Could the game even be balanced at all with a +1 kill for mafia?
Like. Is it even possible?
Plus if I recall correctly in mag’s game where we had a blackmailer the person blackmailed wasn’t even allowed to directly claim to be blackmailed.
Being allowed to openly claim blackmailed does seem to go against the purpose of the role
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/9/2026 at 10:31 PM (post #157)
Noah could be town or not. But in either situation one of those two does not add up.
I feel a redirector, blackmailer, and vanallizer creates a situation we should look very critically at.
WF/Mag1c is lying in every situation I consider. Thats without knowing Luna/Thoth/Mikal info.
And in a world you are actually PGO that means town could be even more killed than they already are
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:30 PM (post #155)
What is this "Flavor" thing?
Flavor means your character
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/9/2026 at 10:28 PM (post #152)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 9:24 PM (post #150)
I think there’s scum between wf / Mag1c. I doubt scum have both vanillaizer and a blackmailer
The more I think about it the more I do not think its even possible. There is way too much soft to negative power on the towns side and having both those roles is just huge before considering the mafia insta-win bit.
Yeah. Plus blackmailer usually means a death if they fail. So that means scum could possibly get essentially a second kill?
Mag1c / Luna team?
Luna is the one person I really need to solve. Ugh. Someone help me
I think there’s scum between wf / Mag1c. I doubt scum have both vanillaizer and a blackmailer
lookkng back Noah and Helz both claimed character super early which would be risky if either are scum
trying to re evaluate here
1) Does w!Helz keep Mag1c alive and also claim either VT or PGO?
2) What do I do with Noah’s claim
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:19 PM (post #142)
I know my role misdirects my connections with Epstein.
Interesting
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 10:19 PM (post #142)
I know my role misdirects my connections with Epstein.
Interesting
I don’t believe scum has both vanillaizer AND blackmailer given the setup.
