Lunatic

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he is 2x so he couldn’t have died based on his visit

What? Your protected Rex and he still died? I guess mafia could have a strong man.

anyways I’ll post later, need to sleep some more

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I imagine I will be short, but you don't have to be a natural anyway lol

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pretty sure bros asleep, I already dm'ed him tho

I'm congratulating Thoth on how well he did as scum. I townread him like the whole game.

Oh okay, so this is all just wifom lol

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by we you mean town?

You did an excellent job mate

wait its you and thoth ? im so confused

Is Pie known for using rare or custom roles? If he is, then Magic's claim goes from extremely unbelievable to merely very unbelievable.

Occasionally he uses unusual roles, but for the most part I think he sticks to roles I've seen him use before at some point or another.

Oh I thought you were confessing and that I just lost the game for town.

you and rex or you and thoth?

You can post until pie closes the thread

Is that game?

please post something so I know your town lol

Unfortunately I don't see my mind changing here. So if I just lost this game for town, I sincerely apologize.

Right now I am going to vote for mharman though. If hes scum, I probably die tonight anyway, but I think you guys got the POE down tomorrow. If magic is scum last one is thoth or wryly obviously.

If I lost us the Game, oh well scum played well.

VTL magic

Thoth if you are scum well played. I am inclined to believe you are town, because you weren't on any of the mislynches, and you easily could have been and had excuses for them. Not only were you not on the mislynches, you never once tried to use not being on them for town cred, which is the only reason you as scum wouldn't have been on them. And the fact that mharman didn't try to accuse you of lying about your result, and instead is playing this mirror maker gambit kind of implies you caught him red handed.

I think magic is banking on the bus because hes kind of in a corner here, either we somehow believe his crazy gambit and he gets town cred for being right about wryly, or he gets lynched and he thinks it looks good for wryly that he pushed her. Either way, this is seemingly pretty clear to me that its magic/wryly.

There is a chance rex has manipulated the fvck out of me and is scum, and if he is GG, he deserves to win. Leaving me as a mislynch would have been the easier route if he was scum, so he purposely took the harder route on a gamble that it would work. Also his analysis has been generally good this game, and I find myself agreeing with a lot of his points, so ultimately my gut is telling me rex is town.

I think it's Rex and Wryly. I hope the discussion has advanced by the time I get back tomorrow.

I think its mharm and wryly. A hider shouldn't been seen visiting themselves if you actually tracked him. I've literally never seen this mirror maker role used EVER in any game.

Hiders can't be redirected in any other way?

I'm mildly ashamed to admit it, but I don't understand the Mirror Maker thing.

I've never seen or heard of this role.

Hiders can't be redirected in any other way?

They aren't supposed to be able to be visited. The downside to that is if the person they hide behind is killed, they also die. I am guessing mirror maker is the only role he could research to justify your result.

(Post #89) Not to imply that Luna or I are scum, but rumor has reached me (before this game started) that Lunatic is notorious for taking ridiculous risks like this, hence why I have been moderately skeptical of him being the Dreamer.

I am definitely a risk taker as scum, but I don't do the same plays. I already did a dreamer fake claim relatively recently, it would be suicide to do it twice. Also virtually the only way its possible for me to be scum at this point is if you think the scum team is exactly me and rex, or me and wryly, because I could have hammered and ended the game in any other scenario.

Lunatic: Did you get a message last night about being unable to use your Dreamer ability? If so, did it specifically say that you were role-blocked? If not, do you think it was different from the message that you would have gotten if you had been visited by a non-role-blocking ability?

I did not get any message. Many mods do not give passive roles a roleblock message, and since my dream has been used already, I definitely wouldn't have been told if I was interfered with.

You never answered how thoth got a self visit on you when you hid behind whiteflame

Apart from just agreeing with a lot of Rex's analysis, the main thing that's holding me back from seeing him as scum is that after the casey mislynch if he was scum he would have an easy time convincing people I was scum. Him town confirming me limits his options. He would have had to really bank on thinking this would manipulate me into town reading him, which is arguably more of a gamble then just letting things play out, and the alternate leads for more chaos and mislynch potential. If Rex is scum this was very well played, but I think the common demoninator here is magic. Thoth and wryly will continue to be a conflicting issue, but I am leaning hardest towards lynching magic now.

Whats holding me up about thoth and magic theory is why thoth did see the self visit on magic? If magic is planning a bus here it is with him and wryly. I still don't understand how magic hiding behind whiteflame would show up to a tracker as having visited himself. Also the whole entry with them not wanting to claim until the other had, but then just both doing it anyway and not scum reading each other was weird.

If it was Rex and Luna, Thoth wouldn't have tracked Rex visiting Luna. Why would scum visit scum. Is that a thing?

If it was rex and me, and you were town why haven't joined mharman and hammered you already for the win?

If it was Rex and Thoth, Thoth would never have VTL'd Rex in DP1. Bussing seems unlikely, he could easily have just gone inactive like he did for the Mikal lynch.

If it's Rex and thoth why haven't they hammered you already?

If it was Rex and Magic, Rex wouldn't be VTLing Magic right now.

This is impossible, because it would mean I was lying about my dreamer results and would have to be scum, and if there were three scum the game would be over.

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I kind of get the logic there. I kind of want to wait until wryly gets home and posts first, because if she is scum with thoth the game could be over already, and maybe they just havent been home to coordinate the hammer. Just wanna eliminate that as a possibility first and wait for her to post.

can someone explain what I am missing in mharmans novel? What is his exact claimed night actions? All I am seeing is that he claimed a visit on whiteflame dp1 and somehow got tracked to himself? Not sure how tracking a hider would look. What did he do np2? He made it sound like his plan was to visit me but didn't confirm?

Or two

I know, they could both be scum. I am still thinking I want to stick between dreamer results though and hit wryly or thoth. I feel increasingly good about you, i'd almost venture to say I don't think there is any way you could be scum, but that's probably not smart. Either way, I am not even considering you as a lynch option for today.

If there are two scum, and I don't see why there wouldn't be, they would have already hammered wryly or magicman right? Which means there is exactly one scum between the two of them.