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RexFavilla (1/7): Kohai (p#2)
Magoroth (1/7): Mikal (p#6)
Ultracrepidarian (1/7): ILikePie5 (p#12)
Not Voting (9): Banana, Casey_Risk, Helz, Magoroth, RexFavilla, Thoth, Ultracrepidarian, whiteflame, Wryly
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 4 days.
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RexFavilla (1/7): Kohai (p#2)
Magoroth (1/7): Mikal (p#6)
Ultracrepidarian (1/7): ILikePie5 (p#12)
Not Voting (9): Banana, Casey_Risk, Helz, Magoroth, RexFavilla, Thoth, Ultracrepidarian, whiteflame, Wryly
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 3 days, 1 hour.
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RexFavilla (1/7): Kohai (p#2)
Magoroth (1/7): Mikal (p#6)
Ultracrepidarian (1/7): ILikePie5 (p#12)
Not Voting (9): Banana, Casey_Risk, Helz, Magoroth, RexFavilla, Thoth, Ultracrepidarian, whiteflame, Wryly
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 20 hours.
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RexFavilla (1/7): Kohai (p#2)
Magoroth (1/7): Mikal (p#6)
Ultracrepidarian (1/7): ILikePie5 (p#12)
Not Voting (9): Banana, Casey_Risk, Helz, Magoroth, RexFavilla, Thoth, Ultracrepidarian, whiteflame, Wryly
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 63 days, 18 hours.
ILikePie5 wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
I don’t understand this “scum could create a fake pm and copy paste it” argument. Why wouldn’t they be allowed to do that? Lol
Okay, so you’re saying town should be allowed to copy paste their PM?
You said scum not town. I am asking why scum can’t create a fake role pm and copy paste it? Town could easily just say it’s a lie and lynch them especially if there not even a warning from the mod
Mago still didn’t kill anyone, not even Mikal who was using extreme OGI even after he said not to. As bad a mod as you thought he was, at least he didn’t ruin the whole game because of his ego like you did lmao
I don’t understand this “scum could create a fake pm and copy paste it” argument. Why wouldn’t they be allowed to do that? Lol
ILikePie5 wrote:
Oh wow, once I presented what you did side by side to Mago, he agreed that it’s mod killable. And he said he told you before he saw the role PM. Nice try
Receipts baby. They are either being fake as fuck, or your lying.
And Kohai said you were retarded and should’ve been mod killed lol. So crazy meaning you were a retard to do that. I have the receipts of that. Never asked Mago, but it was probably before I had posted the flip.
Thats crazy because he said to me that he thought you were retarded. Getting two different stories.
But also, what you’re saying is if you fake created a full PM in the exact same structure, it shouldn’t be mod kill able, which is stupid.
That makes no sense and is not what I am saying. I am saying context should matter and if its possible I could have made that PM up as scum and googled that info, then I was never "confirmed" by posting it.
As for modding methods, that’s a completely false equivalency fallacy lol. He didn’t bother enforcing rules. But those rules were stupid and unique to that game.
If he was enforcing his rules and banning everyone who didnt RP as their character the game would have been super gay because literally 70% of the player base it was super obvious to tell who they were. Your game ended up super gay because you handed out mod kills left and right, and took player control out of the picture, actively favoring the scum team by giving them a free mislynch.
My rules have been the rules since the beginning of mafia.
And how often do people get modkilled? Only one in recent history is magic, who was actively wanting to throw and be modkilled. People post similar pm structure all the time. Would really kill the game and the few players we haves interest if we just hand them out willy nilly like that. Luckily the rest of the playerbase isnt that retarded. You seem cool with ruining your own games, but if this was the status queue I doubt people would wanna play this game. Its one thing to fear the mafia, but in this game the mod kills were more feared lol.
WF, Kohai, Helz, Mikal, Casey, all agree with me, and I’m sure Mago will too, so nice try.
I've talked to several of these individuals and have heard more nuanced takes lol. So they are either playing both sides, or you are lying. That said even if they do agree with you fully that I should have been modkilled they are just wrong. And thats okay. I dont care if people don't think it was a good enough paraphrase. I care about people thinking it should have resulted in a flat out mod kill. Most people I have talked to seem to agree that it was a bad paraphrase job, which I will admit. But most of them also think the straight up mod kill was too far.
Welcome to my very offensive mafia game. I hope you all have thick skin. This game will be an open mechanical set up, meaning I will openly tell you all the mechanics of the game. There is however one catch: One of these mechanics, and only one, is a lie fed by the mafia team. All others are true. In Lieu of this, mafia were not provided fake claims.
The Game Mechanics are as follows:
I will not answer questions about any of these open mechanics due to the nature of the set up.
Rules: Basic rules you see in all games. Limit OGI, dont do anything blatantly cheatsy. I probably won't mod kill you. Unless your pie, might do that for funsies. Jk.
GLHF All.
1. Ultra
2. Mago
3. Rex
4. Whiteflame
5. Kohai
6.Thoth
7.Pie
8.Mikal
9. Banana
10.Wryly
11.Helz
12.Casey
With 12 Players, it takes 7 Votes to Lynch. Day Phase ends in 72 hours. Or on 08/09/26 at 11am central (Hopefully the bot adjusts for my timezone)
Thats not what a paraphrase is lmao. If you did what you did in the real world, it’s plagiarism.
Yeah but this isn't a college essay, its a game of forum mafia. I am not getting some degree I didn't earn like I would have if I was plagiarizing. The benefit here is allegedly that it makes me look slightly more town, but I have yet to hear an argument how that does, especially when I as scum am very capable of google searching and info dumping. If you can't realistically explain how the impact of a mod kill is justified other than you being pissed about an arbitrary rule break (which I still disagree that wasn't paraphrased), then you really don't have much to say here.
Objectively it was justified, which everyone pretty much agrees.
Both kohai and magoroth messaged me they thought the modkill was crazy. Kohai is known for being an overly strict mod, and you argued with mago for days in his endgame about his modding methods. Not only is your ad populum wrong, your a hypocrite lol.
I am not arguing that it wasn't identical. Just that it was changed, even if slightly. And that is a paraphrase. Also you convienently missed the bulk of my argument about how mod kills severely impact a game and should be used with more discretion. But I take it you did that because you know you fucked up but don't wanna admit it. It's cool at the end of the day it was your own game you ruined.
Kohai wrote:
Good game everyone.
I tried telling y’all the mago and case lynched were retarded.
When I suggested mago as the lynch there was a few hours of dp1 left. The alternative was going to be a Casey lynch or a no lynch. The dreamer results were huge in getting Mikal in the POE so while getting a mislynch sucks, the alternative was another mislynch or gaining zero information from that day phase. I don’t regret pushing it.
For the record Whiteflame did play very well. And I don’t blame him for the lylo mislynch at all. I was perplexed when Thoth claimed soldier also. I was actually so impressed with his initial claim and his goal of hiding soldier. Figured that role was the only way we were coming back from this.
Roles are out. Giving people some time to review their roles. Will start the day phase later.
Y’all can be the jury on this, but I think it actually helped the game move forward for town cause Luna was a prime mislynch target anyways after leading the Mago lynch
If I was a prime mislynch target then how does info dumping about my mineral save me from that? Do you think as scum I couldn’t use basic google to create a fake Justification?
Mikal should’ve 100% been lynched DP2 for a couple of reasons
Hmm… I felt like that was about happen. Maybe something happened to prevent that from happening? I don’t remember.
Helz wrote:
Pretty clear. As clear as why Mikal was killed really (and I personally feel they shoulda been modkilled the moment they mentioned Thoth was posting in the server but not in the game) but thats just me.
I am fine with you disagreeing with me on the role pm shit, but blatantly falsely accusing me of something I didn't do is actually fucked up man.
The difference being the host hard declared that flavor was AI and voiced its a rule break to quote your role. Prior to you even making the post you had like 2 or 3 people flatly voicing "Do not do it, its a rule break" reflecting knowledgeable intent of a rule break prior to doing it. Thats the main difference imo.
They said dont use chatGPT. I didnt use chat GPT. I wrote it out, didnt even copy and paste anything lol.
The other one was you basically word for word quoting your role PM in a game where flavor was flatly declared to have a split and be totally AI. This would give a huge unfair advantage at the end of the day.
It wasn't wprd for word and it was basically info dumping lol. If I was scum and googling that mineral or whatever I was I could have done the exact same thing. Acting as if that town confirms me is wild. If anything it should have made me more suspicious. Actively favoring the scum team by giving them a free mislynch over something that didn't town confirm me in any way is 100% bastard. If he wants to do that its fine, its his own game hes ruining, but it definitely takes away from your victory, which is also unfair to you guys.
Both were rule breaks. Imo Mikal deleting an image that would have changed nothing is a lesser issue than you hard quoting your role but we can look at the pattern of Mikals behavior if we want to assign greater or lesser blame.
Paraphrasing my role pm after being asked by several players to do so is hardly a rule break.
I was apathetic enough about this game I shrugged off the course I felt that would be most likely to make my team win so please do not mistake me for really caring about the win. I do feel both mod actions qualify for the first 2 categories in my metric even if I would have personally handled it a bit differently.
Mod kills need to be reserved with a lot more discretion than what was used here. This is a game we play in our free time, it isn't that serious lol. Your gonna ruin the game as a mod because someone miffed you? Like go ahead I guess lol seems kind of stupid to me.
If you really want to call stuff out also the site literally got modified because you after death broke a rule clearly stated not to like posts after death. That is 100% literally why that feature was removed from this section.
This is so wild. Mikal also accused me of this and I told him I didn't do it. I LITERALLY DIDNT LIKE A POST. The fucked up thing is I cant even screenshot proof to you because the feature isn't there anymore. Hopefully someone else grows some balls and owns up to this shit. Or maybe have a mod check, if they have that ability.
1. Ultra
2. Mago
3. Rex
4. Whiteflame
5.Kohai
6.Thoth
7.Pie
8.Mikal
9. Banana
10.Wryly
11.Helz
12.Casey
1. Ultra
2. Mago
3. Rex
4. Whiteflame
5.Kohai
6.Thoth
7.Pie
8.Mikal
9. Banana
10.Wryly
11.Helz
12.
Anyways bring it on bitches. I'll fight all of you on it. Zerg me harder. I 'll die on this hill. You are wrong, and I will argue this with you day and night
Mikals offense was lesser
Now that is a wild take. How did me paraphrasing my role pm negatively effect the game more than OGI? Aren't you the one who has had consistent issues with OGI? Somehow its a lesser offense when its on your side? Thats crazy bro
But I am curious, 1 scum 1 town was mod killed. I do feel you both broke rules although I do feel there is valid reason to question the 'must I' part on my scale of action. Do you not feel a scum mod kill with arguably less justification offsets the town modkill?
Modkilling in general is just bad for mafia. If it must be done, it should be used pretty rarely. Pie just kind of did it, didn't give warnings, didn't really give two shits how it effected the outcome of the game, etc. I have seen people do other things to offset unfair stuff, like maybe award scum team an extra roleblock or something. Not to say even that was needed here. Either way modkilling is pretty dumb, Pie took that stance against mago being a strict mod, but he was single handedly and objectively a 10x wrose mod than he was accusing mago of being. Just saying.
We can argue about "how close it was" all day but thats kind of not the point at the end of the day. Mod killing has a horrible negative effect on the team that it happens to. So for you to do something like that, it has to be a pretty serious infraction. Me info dumping about my role doesn't confirm me. I never even read my role pm because this is a gay ass theme, so I skipped straight to the role. People kept pestering me about the justification so I gave more. None of that town confirms me. At this point I was still on a dreamer result, and if I am scum I am 100% capable of googling any of that shit about my role pm. It never confirmed me or came anywhere close to confirming me. And I did change a reasonable amount of it. I have had people post more of their role pm's in my games and haven't mod killed them.
Whats worse, basically giving the mafia team a free mislynch or letting it play out? You actively chose an action that supported one team over an another at the end of the day because your ego and pride. If thats how to want your games to run after waiting on the sign up list, that's on you. Just telling you that it kind of invalidates the win a little bit for the scum team. If I was scum I would be pissed, knowing that my win was given to me from a bastard mod decision. Just saying.
ILikePie5 wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
The mod kill was retarded in every way. I paraphased. That was an L decision but if you want to wait months just to ruin your own game thats on you. GGs to everyone else. Mafia were cooked if the mod did cater to them by giving them a free mislynch.
90% of the words were verbatim. That’s not paraphrasing. Paraphrasing is restating something in your own words. How hard was it for you to at a high level state what your PM said without using word for word the same thing in your PM.
I changed all the verbiage to I, not talking about you like the role pm does, reformatted the whole thing, it was basocally info dumping which is the equivalent of me just googling shit if I was scum. Its a stretch to say that wasn't paraphrased. You mod killed be because your pussy was sore. Doesn't matter, you want to ruin your own game after waiting on the list for months thats on you lol. Scum needed a win anyway, theyve been on a losing streak.. A little bastard modding was over due.
The mod kill was retarded in every way. I paraphased. That was an L decision but if you want to wait months just to ruin your own game thats on you. GGs to everyone else. Mafia were cooked if the mod did cater to them by giving them a free mislynch.
Got a maybe from castin and helz
1. Ultra
2. Mago
3. Rex
4. Whiteflame
5.Kohai
6.Thoth
7.Pie
8.Mikal
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