Yeah I should have made up some random bullshit about a gut read I got like two pages into the DP, that would have been 'town' of me.
So put yourself in my shoes, why should I town read you? Your only real focus here has been on shit talk the confirmed townie, and a vibe take on mago, now just doubling down and being defensive that people scum read that behavior lol
RexFavilla wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
ILikePie5 wrote:
Attention:
Kohai is the Innocent Child. He is Town.
Good to know.
Not really, I'd prefer to have found this out DP3 instead of him blowing his load after the tiniest bit of bullshit RVS pressure.
He has a history of getting death tunneled pretty early. Its not the end of the world honestly.
More than just activity, I think it really boils down to you forming a firm direction. I’ve found it pretty easy to tell when you are town after my first run in with you in ruyi zhuan where I was completely alien to your playstyle. Since then you seem to have stuck to certain behaviors as town that I am just not noticing yet this game. I’m all for change up in playstyle and not throwing as much shade around etc, but it still doesn’t help my problem of me feeling like town mago is generally a bit more invested and seems to be trying to solve people in general. Even if you aren’t switching votes like crazy, having no hard stances is quite a change from your town play style. I feel like you would be a bit more paranoid as town, and even your reads on magic Rex and Mikal seem largely echoed reads from other players like myself. I never really thought of you as the type that would band wagon, more of the type that would challenge anyone he scum read regardless of their status or prowess. Anyways I am interested to see how your gameplay progresses I am just a bit hesitant about you for now, but I recognize it’s early in the game so I won’t push this too heavily for now. And I am a bit locked in on Rex atm. If Rex does end up being scum I suppose you could earn a bit of town cred here.
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Mikal wrote:
I don't read rex as town. I feel like his scum games. Its less posting and more focused. This game seems trolly and way more lose so far
I mean you did put him as a town lean...
I am actually noticing a lot of similarities to debate craft mafia mago doing an ISO here. The posting style, short form answers, not many strong stances, etc.
Do an Iso of Ruyi zhuan. Tons of bigger posts, paragraphs, spacing, passionate reads, more votes etc. Iso him from the pitt same thing.
Ruyi Zhuan dp1: Mago votes shining, to wryly, to thoth, to wryly again, to shining again, to iLikePie5, to Thoth again, to Mikal, to Lunatic. A total of nine vote changes dp1.
The pitt dp1: Mago switched his vote from Vader, to Alyssa, to Wylted, to Thoth, to Rex, back to wylted, to shining, to alyssa again, to shining, back to rex. He changed his vote 10 times the whole day phase 1 of the pitt.
Lets look at his scum games.
Debatecraft mafia DP2: He slept through all of dp1 which ended very fast so we can just count this as dp1. He votes a total of two times, between pie and rex.
MAGA mafia Dp1: Total of three votes betweem whiteflame, pie and rex.
We wont count Frieren against him because he was juts inactive and unavailable. I can also give some small grace on MAGA mafia since it seemed similar but not nearly as bad. Either way I am noticing a pattern here. Mago seems to be more of a hyper poster, and voter as town, and is constantly paranoid and shifting his votes. He seems far more conservative with his votes as scum.
I am not suggesting he is outright scum yet, and I realize we are still early in the day phase, but its not rubbing me right that his only vote so far has been an RVS vote on magic, and he hasn't really tried a whole lot of scum hunting.
Magoroth wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
I wanna make something happen. Maybe I should claim something bonkers to spice things up.
If you were going to do this why announce to the world you are gonna do it instead of just do it? When you did this in the pitt it was obvious, but you at least tried to pretend you were doing being discreet lol
Yup. This is why I should not be given any private information. If I had the knowledge that X was Town or some such, I would likely start talking about it out of an inability to shut up.
Well that's not really my point. But okay.
Anyways, going through your ISO the only hint of a scum read I have found that you have on anyone (not counting your RVS on magic) is kohai in post 42.
Everything else has been kind of a center of the lane stance, short form answer, not really pointing any sort of direction. I have to say, this doesn't seem like town magoroth here.
Other than town leaning WF, Who are your scum reads and why?
I wanna make something happen. Maybe I should claim something bonkers to spice things up.
If you were going to do this why announce to the world you are gonna do it instead of just do it? When you did this in the pitt it was obvious, but you at least tried to pretend you were doing being discreet lol
VTL: RexFavilla
For the push on the modconfirmed town + lecturing him for confirming himself, potentially hinting at scum being irked by this move and letting the frustration seep into his posts. Also his response to Helz very valid questions are dismissive, over-confident, and not very comforting. I see nothing he has done so far to town read him. I just don't like this slot atm.
Also willing to looking into mikal, I just dont get his town read on both rex and mago. Could just be bad takes which mikal is definitely capable of having sometimes, but I don't like that I can't get into the same head space as mikal. It is early game, and we tend to scum read each other a bit until something sticks out about the others play style that more or less confirms them town, so maybe something about mikal will show up but I have yet to see it.
Not a fan of magics take on Mago either, but he has defended his logic enough about it where I can at least see a world where he thinks activity is AI for Mago even if it isn't. He hasn't been privy to being in every mago game, so I am assuming he is only going off the couple he's played with him. Still, it does feel like a pretty weak reason to town read him when I feel that Mago hasn't erally stood out at all so far.
I would like to hear mroe from banana and shining, shinings few reads weren't anything to call home about but I don't immediately scum read them either. Just need to see more with him. Banana is completely null.
Want to hear more from Connor and others.
Chill with the name drops lol
Rex also gives me town vibes. Playing kinda retarded and not reserved.
There's no actual way you town read rex wtf
Can you be more specific? With current hindsight you were just shoving the now host confirmed IC and I know I am town but both had very vague reasoning.
Just a vibe. You asking this is also kinda scummy ngl
Nah its a good fucking questions, and "just a vibe" is a bad fucking answer lol
Helz wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Hmmm, Kohai is being retarded might be up for killing him. Helz also strikes me as a bit scummy right now.
Can you be more specific? With current hindsight you were just shoving the now host confirmed IC and I know I am town but both had very vague reasoning.
Why should Kohai (or anyone else) clearly read you as town this early?
What about what I am doing is any sort of scummy?
I stg you keep saying all the shit I am thinking in my head before I can post it. GET OUT OF MY HEAD WIZARD.
ILikePie5 wrote:
Attention:
Kohai is the Innocent Child. He is Town.
Good to know.
RexFavilla wrote:
Tbh I don't get the Mago wagon.
He should be at most null based on the activity he has provided. Town or scum leaning him on activity is blowing my mind right now, he has been active as both affiliations. He has had stuff come up in his real life from time to time that has caused him inactivity, but I don't think it has anything to do with his AI behavior. I think he is far easier to figure out as scum or town just based on actual behavior, I just don't think we've seen enough from him yet to form a conclusion either way.
Casey_Risk wrote:
Checking in, meant to be here earlier but my sleep is fucked right now. I think it might have something to do with the weather, idk, but I just haven't been getting much sleep lately. Which is a problem for me in this game. Will catch up on my break.
Feel that. My sleep has been so bad lately.
Mikal wrote:
Mago is active. Someone mentioned last game he is inactive as scum and active as town and hes already posted more this game. If this meta is true then it points to a good feeling. But I agree with magic. Night and day from last game so far just given hes engaging
WTF why is everyone saying this
Mag1cman wrote:
Helz wrote:
Mag1cman wrote:
Again, you weren’t there for for last game, where we lynched Magoroth on the basis of him being less active as scum. And I did do the MAGA Mafia ISO on Magoroth. I’m not seeing any damning similarities.
Yeah, I was not in that game and I have not read it. Im just saying its really sus for you to be pushing a meta comparison referenced as their behavior for an entire game that apparently in reality is 4 individual posts.
It gives the impression as being something it certainly is not to the point I question if this was a fake read and you were throwing vague shade but forgot that detail and got called on it.
You’re framing it like I could not have extracted a meta read when he only gave four posts last game. But that is the meta. He posts less when mafia. I’m not saying he posts as little as four posts every scum game he’s ever played, but look at this game: He’s one of the early drivers of activity this far. Contrasts his scum meta, therefore an early town read is warranted.
This is not a hip fire read. It’s observable and proven.
Helz wrote:
Do you disagree that it looks like faking a read when they referance vague meta on a game where Mag had only 4 posts the entire game?
I have no idea how you could possibly have a meta position on 4 posts. I do however regularly see scum push vague reads with things like meta in order to appear as hunting.
^^^
Mag1cman wrote:
Again, you weren’t there for for last game, where we lynched Magoroth on the basis of him being less active as scum. And I did do the MAGA Mafia ISO on Magoroth. I’m not seeing any damning similarities.
So because he made a couple of one liners he qualifies as being considerably less active and therefor town? I mean usually mago is pretty damn active in general, so I am assuming his real life issues from last game are NAI.
Mag1cman wrote:
Magoroth feels night and day from the last game. thinking he's town atm
Can I get something specific for why you feel this way? I just did an ISO of his posts up until page 4 where you posted this and nothing about him jumped out to me as extremely townie. What am I missing?
Mag and Thoth are giving me bad vibes
Lynching thoth for the fourth game in a row feel a bit mean lol
whiteflame wrote:
Magoroth wrote:
Thoth wrote:
whiteflame wrote:
Either makes sense. Depends on the roles in play.
Have you ever seen 9-4?
I have. My first MS game. People did not know 9/4 was possible. Town was at MyLo D3. Granted, the setup was very interesting.
Mafia Loyal Vigilante
Mafia Simple Doctor
Traitor
and some other role I can’t remember rn.
Cant and wouldn’t dismiss a 9-4 setup, even if I think it’s unlikely.
9-4 would be fucking insane, I am hoping its 10-3
Thoth wrote:
I've gotten a terrible gutread on Magoroth so far. There's nothing concrete to back it. Just an unease with how he's phrased certain things. Listen to me or don't, I don't care either way.
This isn't effective scum hunting. Having a gut read on someone being scummy is fine, but what are you doing with it? Put pressure on them, ask them questions, make 'em squirm.
whiteflame wrote:
I sure hope you do, considering what life is made of
Eh, the elements themselves are important, but it's more about how they make up more complex molecules than about the elements themselves, particularly when you're talking about molecular biology and microbiology. It's an emphasis in many of the classes I took, just not usually the main one unless I'm in chemistry or physics
I hope you are town, because I am too dumb to know anything about this theme and am not sure I will be caring enough to research stuff to figure it out. Probably won't be able to spot fake claims and shit, so I am gonna take a lot of yours and others words for it when it comes to what claims are scummy or not.
Catching up
Just got off work, going to sleep, will catch up later
Not really a town MVP per se, but the CFD in DP1 was pivotal, so I'll give it to Luna for driving that wagon over Magoroth.
Eh this one actually should go to pie, he first suggested it, I just agreed with it lol
I mean you probably would have been lynched anyway. I had a feeling wylted was lying, even said as much.
Either way, OoO is to lynch the person with the result, then lynch the person with the person with the bad result.
/in
